It has recently come to my attention that certain people don't have a clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to various forms of auto racing. As a general rule, most people consider the Mustang, in all of its forms and beastly glory, to be a car built only to go in a straight line. This was not the sole purpose for the mustang since it was built, and several versions were put out to make use of the Mustang's excellent ability to cut corners and road race with the best of them. (The Cobra R's and the Boss Mustangs come to mind) In all honesty, i don't think that drag racing is very exciting, its way too short and the only time something interesting happens is when things blow up(don't get me wrong, this kicks serious heinie). Not to mention the fact that when watching interviews with those drivers who win events you can't go 2 seconds without them saying something about theirsponsors and helpers and whatnot MULTIPLE TIMES!</P>


Rallying is by far the most underrated form of Mustang Racing, since its often not commercialized. not ProRally, since that is quite commercialized, but ClubRally. Many many 5.0 and 4.6 mustangs compete in Group 5 of the SCCA rallying circuit, and i believe that it should be known that there is pride among these drivers and what they have accomplished as well. Not only do these cars keep up and often beat small import cars like WRX's and Evo's, but every last one of them can easily run low 13s or high 12s. </P>


And lets not forget the majorcojones it takes to race like that. Hey straight liners...put that in your pipe and smoke it.</P>


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Ok OK you win, I agree rally racing is a HELL of alot more adrenaline pumping and FUN vs drag racing, but really who wants to rally race their daily driver and have it ragged to hell and back. If you ain't ragging your car you ain't road / rally racing it! Not very many people can afford to build a purpose built road race vehicle (nor drag vehicle for that matter), or take the chance of running into a tree, wall, or another car road racing. Drag racing is appealing to the masses because you can take your car to the track without fear of *easily* doing 5k damage to your car in a matter of seconds. Sure it can happen at the strip to, but it happens 100x more often everywhere else.

good point but you can make an old beater stang like an early 80's 5.0 into a rallycar for cheap...all that is mandatory for rallying in most regions is a rollcage, safety harnesses and seats, and an intercom.</P>

That's good information.</P>


But...go take a ride in a Camaro or TA. Especially an Iroc-z or 3rdgen WS6 if you can.</P>


Speaking from owning one, and now owning a 2002 GT...my Iroc-z would make pitiful laughing stock out of my GT. Stock for stock it, it slides, the rear dances, major body roll, mushy steering and terrible traction...but ride quality is great.</P>


With a F-body..it's a stiff ride, but you can bomb corners at speeds you couldn't even dream about in a Mustang, the rear doesn't dance around corners, the front end just GLUES itself to the ground, barely ANY body roll on a STOCK suspension..</P>


Check out the CMC Challenge. It's called the Camaro Mustang Challenge. They travel to several road courses...and the F-bodies (especially 3rd gens) just run away from the rest of the field.</P>


Granted, if rules aren't strict you can dump twice the money into a good Mustang suspension to get it to handle like a mildly modified F-body, but if you spent that money in the F-body...it'd be total slaughter ;)</P>


If anyone here is involved with any road course racing series, many of them can testify to VERY LIGHTLY modified F-body's passing Vipers &amp;Porsche's without much effort!!!!!!</P>

Dan, why did you get rid of the IROC if you liked it better. My buddy has a Firehawk, talk about getting tail happy.<IMG src=smileys/smiley3.gif border="0">

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I got rid of it because I've never owned a new car before, the motor had a cam in it that wouldn't pass emissions - I burned my drag radials down to cords &amp; I was tired of laying on my back in the garage more than sitting in the drivers seat.</P>


In the 1/4 mile, my GT would of laid it down on my Iroc-z, it ran low 14's.</P>


Besides, I just got the fever to have a new car &amp; a warranty...</P>

plus some pr**k "friend" totalled the iroc right?

Nope, that wasn't me! Got me confused with someone else <IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

i recall hearing that from a user like 2 or 3 months ago...oh well.

Many many? I know of 2, and one of those was retired a while ago.

What's required for rally?
for P/PGT it's gotta have all of the interior plastic (carpet is fair game),fire extinguishers, good roll cage (not a $300 bolt in either, try more along the lines of $2k for a welded in one unless you do your own welding), and just about everything else has to be as it left the factory. You also need triangles, hazmat spill kit, and first aid kit.
To do it right you need a car and about $10-15k to prep it.

Road Rally is much more suited to the Mustang.

a good place is summit point in WV takes hp and handling..I used to run Karts up there was clocked at 95mph..yes a go-kart

Now karts are fun! I got a Margay chassis kart with an alky briggs motor runnin now, it suks I don't have a shifter motor on it, Im lookin for a yz125 if anyone comes across one, or maybe even a 600cc street bike engine.... wohhooooooo! It's like drivin an indy car! Heres a pic of my kartin the garage collecting dust, I don't even race it, but I do terrorize the neighbors on occasion when Im feelin froggy</P>


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Check out how much it costs to enter a NASCAR race, i mean even a hobby stock, or bomber class. yes that is nascar too. now find out about SCCA races, how much they are for entrance fee's rule books etc. Look at open road races, like the silver state classic in nevada or the Sandhills classic in Nebraska. Then look at drag racing. test and tune nights are usually about $15 and races where you can WIN $500-$1000 are $30 -50 for an entrance fee. Plus you can run your daily driver (done it) or even your tow vehicle if you have a semi race only car (done it) Drag racing is far cheaper, and its far cheaper to go to the drags than any other racing. Yes two hours on the track is fun and exciting, but it also costs ya more.</P>


I loved all sorts of racing, including driving my 2nd gen WS6 TA WAAAAY to fast for the tires and roads I was on. It will cut a corner like few other cars. It'll knock your fillings out, but it was fun. I am into cheap thrills, so drags are what I do.</P>

Oh yeah Karts are a blast for start to stop. Not terribly expensive, but you do need quite a bit of support equipment.

I saw some mustangs and camaros on tv racing pikes peak(fox body mustang won). it was really cool but i dont remember what it was called or when its on again. If anyone knows what this race or series of races are called please tell me so i can find out when its on again.