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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/29/2007 9:28:30 PM   
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wow! how much hp you think you gonna be putting out?

isnt it a couple grand to get fordged internals? and is the Kenne Bell supercharger better? from what i've been reading and just watching tons of videos on youtube lol, i've noticed that most cobras have the Bell s/c's instead of the prochargers....

and what you do mean you dont 'turbo' domestics?you lost me there lol....and i know what ya meant when you said dumb...i know almost everything on the HEMI engine in my dads truck which i was going to get but now i gotta start learning about the cobras.....this is a whole different set-up so i was thinking about the hemi engine which you would usually turbo for more hp output....the s/c was cheaper for the dodge rams but you dont get as much hp...

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/29/2007 10:03:59 PM   
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I dont knowhow much hp I'll have...thats why I'm going with forged internals.  and starting with a bare block and starting over.  Right now I'm just in the planning stages so price doesnt matter, only quality.  I dont know if KB is better but I've heard its better then Roush and Sallen and half the price.  I dont really know about preocharger or vortech.  Normally  when you hear "turbo" you think ricer. 

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/29/2007 10:13:43 PM   
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99 and 01 cobras arent running late 12's early 13's stock sorry to break it to u..03-04 cobras are running high 12's stock with a good driver..if nto early 13's with a horrible driver..anyways the 99-01 cobras are probably a late 13's if ur a REALLy good driver u can get it in the mid 13's. which is still fast!

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/29/2007 10:26:39 PM   
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Yeah,no high 12s stock for sure.I've seen some low 13s at about 106-107mph,but thats with very good drivers.Mid 13s for mearly good drivers and high 13s for average driver.It doesn't take very much to put a 99/01 in the high 12s though,4.10/4.30 gears,DRs,and a couple bolt ons will do the trick.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 12:55:57 AM   
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That supra and evo, will chew you up and spit you out.  Be careful with those. 

Those are REAL imports right there.

I've been embarassed by both of them, obviously not stock, but neither am I.. so.. heh.. just watch out.  Cobras are nice, but you'd be ignorant to think your the fastest thing out there.. even in an 03-04.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 8:52:30 AM   
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Yeah but wasnt the Evo made for racing?  Isnt it a rally car?

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 11:59:53 AM   
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01 and 99 are 320bhp as long as it has the recall done, mine didnt but im now about 320 to the wheels just fixing it with a few things and some minor bolt ons. for the price get a 99/01 and procharge it with some gears and youll walk all over 03/04 stock.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 2:12:33 PM   
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yeah.....those evos are fast as hell! how come the supras and cobras always ride or race together?

do you think it'd be worth a 3yrs. wait to get an 03-04 cobrainstead of a 1 1/2 year wait for an 01 cobra....and then i'll have money to put into the 01 cobra....what do you think?

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 2:26:42 PM   
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haha supras and cobras = equal opposites.   I'll get flamed for this, but TT supras are faster out of the box than any modern mustang. (save the GT500)

Supra is really one hell of a car.  I almost got one before my cobra, and I still plan on owning one on the side some day.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 2:32:10 PM   
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yeah.....on the weekends when all the nice cars are out....theres always my friends evo, 2 GTs, and a supra... and most of the videos online are mustangs against supras.....pretty funny...

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 2:54:45 PM   
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quote:

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Its not supercharged yet.  You dont "turbo" domestics; you supercharge them.  lol  Its cool  I was dumb when I started on this forum.  But I learned quick...thats why you're here.  I plan on putting a Kenne Bell 9psi intercooled 8-rib S/C (13-21 total psi)  but that means changing my internals  to forged pistons, rods, new suspension.  Yeah...BEAST!!!   Once I get it done, I'll make an owner of a GT 500 cry!


Did someone tell you this?  I'm not tryin to call you out on this, but there are quite a few guys with cobra's that go over from a supercharging system to a turbo system.  Yes, many imports use turbo's, but its not just for imports.  If you ever go over to svtperformance, there a quite a few guys that have went with a twin turbo setup.

Now I'm not saying you should go out and turbo everything because I'm not ever gonna use a turbo system.  One, they are very costly and it takes quite a bit of custom work and tweaking the tune to make it spot on.  Its very efficient, but very difficult to tune.  Thats why I'll just upgrade to a twin screw supercharger like a Whipple 2.3L.  Its not 'ricerish' to put a turbo on a mustang... forced induction is forced induction, it doesn't really matter how you get there.  Just plan out what you want and what you think your needs are before you step up to make a choice whether to stay naturally aspired, supercharged, or turbo.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 4:57:34 PM   
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+1 with goldeneagle.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 5:30:23 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

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Its not supercharged yet.  You dont "turbo" domestics; you supercharge them.  lol  Its cool  I was dumb when I started on this forum.  But I learned quick...thats why you're here.  I plan on putting a Kenne Bell 9psi intercooled 8-rib S/C (13-21 total psi)  but that means changing my internals  to forged pistons, rods, new suspension.  Yeah...BEAST!!!   Once I get it done, I'll make an owner of a GT 500 cry!


Did someone tell you this?  I'm not tryin to call you out on this, but there are quite a few guys with cobra's that go over from a supercharging system to a turbo system.  Yes, many imports use turbo's, but its not just for imports.  If you ever go over to svtperformance, there a quite a few guys that have went with a twin turbo setup.

Now I'm not saying you should go out and turbo everything because I'm not ever gonna use a turbo system.  One, they are very costly and it takes quite a bit of custom work and tweaking the tune to make it spot on.  Its very efficient, but very difficult to tune.  Thats why I'll just upgrade to a twin screw supercharger like a Whipple 2.3L.  Its not 'ricerish' to put a turbo on a mustang... forced induction is forced induction, it doesn't really matter how you get there.  Just plan out what you want and what you think your needs are before you step up to make a choice whether to stay naturally aspired, supercharged, or turbo.


All I meant was you dont hear much about putting a turbo on a domestic like a mustang.  Normally you would hear supercharger and turbo with imports.  I have yet to see a domestic with a turbo (on the street...not the track), even though I know they exist.  A friend of mine is thinking about a TT and a s/c system for his 03 GT.  Ive tried to go to svtperformance but it wont accpet my email address to join so I wouldnt know. 

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 7:33:07 PM   
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All I meant was you dont hear much about putting a turbo on a domestic like a mustang.  Normally you would hear supercharger and turbo with imports.  I have yet to see a domestic with a turbo (on the street...not the track), even though I know they exist.  A friend of mine is thinking about a TT and a s/c system for his 03 GT.  Ive tried to go to svtperformance but it wont accpet my email address to join so I wouldnt know. 


I gottcha.  Yeah, it is more common to hear of turbo's on imports I agree.  To be honest, when I first got here, I didn't even know the difference between a turbo and a supercharger... how dumb was I.  The main reason you don't see them is cause of their price and complexity.  Mostly cause of the price. 

It comes down to what you want.  If you wanna go fast on the top end, turbo is the way to go.  It has to spool up, but once it does... its balls to wall.  But if your looking for instant boost, then a twin screw or roots style supercharger is what you want.  Centri superchargers are good too, they tend to be the least costly of the other two.  They have the distinct whistle sound to them.

Anyways, go make yourself an email address on yahoo or something.  I use mine for svtperformance.  There are alot of knowlegeable guys here... but there is so much info over there that you can pick up.  It would be very wise of you to get a new email and sign up... I doubt you will be disappointed

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 7:38:44 PM   
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well, internally whats the difference between turbos and superchargers? i know the looks and parts and stuff but i dont know what the internals and stuff are doing...

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/30/2007 11:07:08 PM   
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internally in your engine? nothing.

internally in a turbo and a supercharger? Alot.

Turbochargers use exhaust (free energy) to spool up and create boost.

Superchargers use the engine itself to create power.

A good site to read up on ALOT about alot is www.howstuffworks.com

they have diagrams and moving ilustrations there, its good stuff, I looked up both before posting this jut to make sure.  Bother articles are VERY informative.  Pictures, animations, and videos.  Even your girlfriend could understand the wya this site puts things. (no offense to any women tuners out there ;) )

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RE: general questions on cobras - 1/31/2007 2:14:36 PM   
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lol , cool, thanks...i'll check that site out....

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RE: general questions on cobras - 2/1/2007 4:18:02 AM   
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Well i have a question, i work at a ford dealorship here and i just got my gtp sold and was gonna buy a 99 cobra for 9950. Its a fine car, very very minor scratches, no tears in the leather, everything works fine. Ive driven it and put it on the ids and it throws no codes so thats the one im buyin.

My question is i hear about the recall (which is one of the only things i didnt look at, the TSB's and the recalls), but what exactly can be done to fix this. It  already has an off-road h-pipe with cat-back exhaust, CAI. I was planning on buying the BBK long tube headers, the 62 or 65mm throttle body. and a bunch other stuff, but ide rather know what a need to fix first, rather than what i want.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 2/1/2007 12:14:39 PM   
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Take the vin number to the service department and they can check to see if your snake is even part of the batch that was affected.  Only the first 60% had the bad stuff.  The only thing they might do is the intake and a computer recalibration because of the better exhaust or they wont do anything because mods have already been made.

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RE: general questions on cobras - 2/1/2007 12:17:44 PM   
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cobras already come with a dual 65mm throttle body.

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