what would be the performance differnce between long tube and shorty headers. Is one better than the other? which company makes a good set. I have already ran a search and nothing came up. thanks
Bro,I find it wierd that the search button did not pull up anything!This topic has been beaten to DEATH!LOL! Anyways,it's like this.Shorties dont make any HP(5-8HP at most) & L/Ts will make on average(25HP).L/Ts are the way to go!Make sure you get them ceramic coated for protection & heat scavaging and there's a ton of companies to choose from!You will hear all kinds of oppinions.My oppinion,,I LOVE MY MAC L/Ts!!!!!!They really stepped it up with their quality and I paid 385.00 on ebay for them!!!!Thats all I got to say now!
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I went with Kooks because I got a great deal but american racing as vsop said is very good aswell. From the dynos people have posted there is really no difference in any Lts as far is HP goes. Just get a good 304 Stainless set.
Kooks, American Racing, Stainless Works, Dynatech. There all good 304 stainless steel headers.
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Another thing to mention is while the SLPs are 304 the one I saw had the cats positioned REALLY low. It appears to me ground clearance would be a large issue with them.
Kooks hang lower than the frame rails and hurt ground clearance some but not like the SLPs I saw.
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Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
You are right, you will lose some clearance (1" to 1.5") with the SLPs, I am not lowering so its not an issue, but it is something to take into account. I got a really good deal on my LT headers/X pipe w/cats from a website, install was $450 for all of it, so about $1200 total.
Dyno proven #s , RWHP/RWTQ was +11/+13 not sure about the 25-35 hp people claim, maybe at the crank you gain that much but to the ground I only saw a solid 10-15 hp jump, thats 1 3/4" primaries on a naturally aspirated engine, I plan on getting a blower soon which is when the real benefit of bigger primaries will kick in, at least thats what I hope!!! lol
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Not just the kooks. You can't run any l/t's with a turbo...
For the millionth time, YOU HAVE SHORTIES ON YOUR CAR FROM THE FACTORY. The only real 'upgrade' from stock is L/T's - otherwise your stock manifolds are more than good enough.
Except for that rust look.
LOL
Being in CA, as you know with having to be CARB certified, I was looking at the JBA shorties as they are CARB certified, but I also found out that Edelbrock has come out with their shorties and are also CARB certified. It would be nice to see numbers from a customer or indepedent to see if they get the same numbers Edelbrock says. But then again, the numbers they post are probably crank HP's. I would have ot look again, I think they said 15 to 20HP's
I think with Hooker and BBK long tube headers you can retain the factory cats (using their modular mid-pipes)
wouldn't that still make you emissions legal in CA ?
In AZ we are good for 5 years till emissions testing so I got the LTs, but just in case I got the catted version of
x-pipe to match, and my tune disables the O2 sensors so no "check engine lights".
To me shorties are not worth it unless you shiny stainless steel !! lol
Also while they , or you, are at it go ahead and change out your motor mounts, don't make the same mistake I did.
they are a real upgrade from the crappy stock mounts , easy mod to do while installing LTs if raising engine.
Unfortunately no, it has to have a CARB certification. And have the certification number handy when smogged. Ours is 6 years, then every 2 years after that. I don't want to take the time to reinstall the factory for the test.
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