RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 1:37:10 AM
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illegal1984
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illegal, but i don't want to be an ass, but you kind of need it. If you don't want to get flamed, don't pull bs power numbers out of your ass and claim you dynoed those numbers....
look man...originally i put this post up with a pretty hard insult to your havingnothingbetter2do dumb azz...but i don't want to be an azz...if you want me to list all the shyt i have done to my car and take up half of the damn page....read my second post...if you want me to go get it re-dyno'ed read my last post...if you still have a problem with me...just leave it at what sixer posted...he ended that shyt pretty diplomatically...but im telling you come at me again and I will personally flame you a la Hiroshima and Nagasaki...let it die and when i get my shyt redyno'ed then feel free to come argue with me
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 7:44:37 AM
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i luv shyt like this...its alwayz a bunch of guys rolling up their shirts to see who has the biggest guns...let me put it point blank...unless ur married or have that special someone your gonna bun up with...DON'T GET A GTO...the gto is a great performance car...but the styling is pitiful...wack to the highest degree...cutie on the corner looking at me standing beside my Mustang v. some dude with a GTO...i ask...now if you are gonna get a Mustang and can comfortably afford a GT then get one...but don't out of your way and paycheck to buy a car that eats a quarter of your income...otherwise get a V6...contrary to what the GTers have you believe you can affordably upgrade a V6 to near GT levels WITHOUT a supercharger and past them with one...now if your concerned about having horses that you may never used except for outside the track and beating 450 rwhp SC'ed GTs?!?!?!...well damn i may not be able to solve those issues...might have to see a shrink on that one
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267 rwhp (and thats without the high octane tune)
I don't normally get involved with these arguments, but I'm waving the bullsh|t flag on this one. If you think you have 267 RWHP, you're out of your mind. More than likely, your dyno is broke. Put up proof or back down.
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PS with a supercharger 400 rwhp horsepower on a V6 is a fantasy...DON'T push your engine that hard...especially if you're a daily driver unless you want a detonation...8-9 psi at the most....
Talk to me Friday afternoon. You obviously know nothing about what our stock engines will do with a good tune.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 7:55:09 AM
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ProCharger Stage II Supercharger @ 12 psi, Detroit TrueTrac LSD . I am envious that you can safely go to 12 psi. How do you like the TrueTrac? If you go to the track, has it made a difference in ET? Does it affect street driving (curves)?
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 11:52:43 AM
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flapjack
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Flapjack
From your signature, quote:
ProCharger Stage II Supercharger @ 12 psi, Detroit TrueTrac LSD . I am envious that you can safely go to 12 psi. How do you like the TrueTrac? If you go to the track, has it made a difference in ET? Does it affect street driving (curves)?
I'm not sure about the GTs.... I'm betting you could safely do 12psi, but the tune would be criticial, since the GT does not have a steel block or forged rods like the V6 does, making it more vulnerable to detonation.
Functionality-wise, the TT is incredible. It does an excellent job of distributing power... instantly. My only gripe (if you can even call it that) is the noise it make during operation. I wasn't even aware of the "TrueTrac shuffle" until I installed LCAs, though. It does not affect driving in curves at all.
The tracks here in Colorado suck. They close early in fall and open late in Spring. The only track I've gone to is PMI in Pueblo. They do a HORRIBLE job of prepping the track. I already had the TT in place when I made my first run, so I don't have a prior ET to compare it to... sorry. I did pretty piss-poor, I had a corrected ET of 13.8. That was back when I had 9psi and 321 RWHP.
I'm sure it would've been worse with the peg-leg, though. For a stock GT, the benefits of a TrueTrac would be a more durable rear end and not having to rebuild it after so many miles (the TT is totally gear-based... no clutch packs).
Hope this helps...
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 4:00:37 PM
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8cd03gro
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Flapjack
From your signature, quote:
ProCharger Stage II Supercharger @ 12 psi, Detroit TrueTrac LSD . I am envious that you can safely go to 12 psi. How do you like the TrueTrac? If you go to the track, has it made a difference in ET? Does it affect street driving (curves)?
I'm not sure about the GTs.... I'm betting you could safely do 12psi, but the tune would be criticial, since the GT does not have a steel block or forged rods like the V6 does, making it more vulnerable to detonation.
Functionality-wise, the TT is incredible. It does an excellent job of distributing power... instantly. My only gripe (if you can even call it that) is the noise it make during operation. I wasn't even aware of the "TrueTrac shuffle" until I installed LCAs, though. It does not affect driving in curves at all.
The tracks here in Colorado suck. They close early in fall and open late in Spring. The only track I've gone to is PMI in Pueblo. They do a HORRIBLE job of prepping the track. I already had the TT in place when I made my first run, so I don't have a prior ET to compare it to... sorry. I did pretty piss-poor, I had a corrected ET of 13.8. That was back when I had 9psi and 321 RWHP.
I'm sure it would've been worse with the peg-leg, though. For a stock GT, the benefits of a TrueTrac would be a more durable rear end and not having to rebuild it after so many miles (the TT is totally gear-based... no clutch packs).
Hope this helps...
we have an iron block...i have never heard of a motor with a steel block... that'd be insane. i thought the 4.6 did have forged rods also....
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 4:09:05 PM
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I'm sure he meant iron block, I've spoken enough with Flapjack to know that he is aware of that. Probably a typo. The GT does not have forged rods. Ford used cracked powdered metal rods for the Mustang GT.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 4:12:28 PM
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flapjack
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Yeah, I was typing too fast with too many other things on my mind. Meant to say iron. A steel block would look sweet, though, it wouldn't be as tough. :)
As far the GT goes, I'm 99% sure they use powdered rods. Our engines don't take detonation well because of the piston composition and the ring landings. The GT adds the weakness of the rods and aluminum block. I've seen pics of many a punctured GT block. None of the V6 so far (don't take that as a challenge, John and Todd.... hahaha)
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 4:15:47 PM
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flapjack
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Oh yeah, where's illegal1984's retort?? I'm dying to see what his engine looks like. Another reason to wave the bulls|t flag... I can't imagine someone having that much more N/A HP than anyone else on the various Mustang boards and not having a dyno sheet to back it up. Bull<cough>sh|t<cough>....
By the way.... LOVE that hood, forensicsteve. How much did it cost you?
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 9:52:13 PM
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Trill Gear Head
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Oh yeah, where's illegal1984's retort?? I'm dying to see what his engine looks like. Another reason to wave the bulls|t flag... I can't imagine someone having that much more N/A HP than anyone else on the various Mustang boards and not having a dyno sheet to back it up. Bull<cough>sh|t<cough>....
By the way.... LOVE that hood, forensicsteve. How much did it cost you?
Hey, he's not ****ting.
He has:
CAI&Tune=25whp
Axle-back= 15whp
H-Pipe=10whp
GT take off wheels= 15whp
Factory rated whp 210hp +70hp=270whp duhhh!!! Can't you see, you just add up all the numbers.
Disclamer...This post is nothing more than sarcasm poking fun of blissful ignorance ricers turned stang owners.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 9:52:28 PM
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illegal1984
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Oh yeah, where's illegal1984's retort??
Alright flapjack...keep supercharging your engine to get over the other smaller facilities at your disposal...seems like trying to be being gearhead is the only head you've gotten in a while huh...well tell you what...you post your dyno with your supercharged 400 rwhp...not 400 hp...400 rwhp...u do that ok...i'd really like to see that...since you can so easily get a supercharged V6 4.0 engine to spit out 400 rwhp...have fun avoiding detonation with your not so forged pistons...it'll make you such a bigger man since that penis enlargement shyt just didn't work out for u...while you're at take the tape off your glasses and clean off your f*ckin' screen...take the porn DVDs back to blockbuster and race a few honda civics to get your self-esteem back up...i hope that was enough of a retort for you, if not hit me back later so i can really tear into u...btw i have better shyt to do then hang around a post waiting for your retort so...unless you want to say something not aimed at me and get this topic back on track...go put a flowmaster up your ass and take a seat on the can, cuz obviously your laxitivies aren't doing it for you anymore.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 10:02:36 PM
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illegal1984
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Disclamer...This post is nothing more than sarcasm poking fun of blissful ignorance ricers turned stang owners.
No need to poke fun at yourself...flapjack already does that shyt for you..."flame on!"...ya'll need stop puttin' out sex tapes cuz u keep inciting all the other flaming invdividuals to come out and make themselves known...ya'll keep fantasizing about them trannies aight...and while your at it put some work up into your car so that cobalt down the street doesn't keep owning your ass...your disgracing me and everyone else that puts work into our cars...next
Disclaimer...I apologize for a few remarks in my last post...no one should ever take pride in beating poor Honda Civic owners to aid in there own self-esteem...or Datsun owners for that matter...
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 10:14:52 PM
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Oh yeah, where's illegal1984's retort??
Alright flapjack...keep supercharging your engine to get over the other smaller facilities at your disposal...seems like trying to be being gearhead is the only head you've gotten in a while huh...well tell you what...you post your dyno with your supercharged 400 rwhp...not 400 hp...400 rwhp...u do that ok...i'd really like to see that...since you can so easily get a supercharged V6 4.0 engine to spit out 400 rwhp...have fun avoiding detonation with your not so forged pistons...it'll make you such a bigger man since that penis enlargement shyt just didn't work out for u...while you're at take the tape off your glasses and clean off your f*ckin' screen...take the porn DVDs back to blockbuster and race a few honda civics to get your self-esteem back up...i hope that was enough of a retort for you, if not hit me back later so i can really tear into u...btw i have better shyt to do then hang around a post waiting for your retort so...unless you want to say something not aimed at me and get this topic back on track...go put a flowmaster up your ass and take a seat on the can, cuz obviously your laxitivies aren't doing it for you anymore.
wow. just wow.
flapjack put down 364rwhp BEFORE the heads and cams. many of us here have seen the dyno. There is no doubt in my mind he is VERY close to or above 400rwhp. I'm sure when he sees this he will post up the dyno for you...now where is your dyno at? Nobody here beleives you, and to tell you the truth, i doubt you even own a mustang. If you do you are a disgrace to us. You are 100% full of ****, and you are taking stabs and guys that know WAAAAAYYY more than you could imagine. I suggest you start over with a different name and never tell us that this was your old name because none of us will ever respect you now. Good job dumb ass.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 10:16:32 PM
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8cd03gro
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Disclamer...This post is nothing more than sarcasm poking fun of blissful ignorance ricers turned stang owners.
No need to poke fun at yourself...flapjack already does that shyt for you..."flame on!"...ya'll need stop puttin' out sex tapes cuz u keep inciting all the other flaming invdividuals to come out and make themselves known...ya'll keep fantasizing about them trannies aight...and while your at it put some work up into your car so that cobalt down the street doesn't keep owning your ass...your disgracing me and everyone else that puts work into our cars...next
Disclaimer...I apologize for a few remarks in my last post...no one should ever take pride in beating poor Honda Civic owners to aid in there own self-esteem...or Datsun owners for that matter...
The one that is disgracing anyone is you. Post up that dyno you supposedly have. Please, i would LOVE to see it.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 10:55:20 PM
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illegal1984
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flapjack put down 364rwhp BEFORE the heads and cams. many of us here have seen the dyno. There is no doubt in my mind he is VERY close to or above 400rwhp. I'm sure when he sees this he will post up the dyno for you...now where is your dyno at? Nobody here beleives you, and to tell you the truth, i doubt you even own a mustang. If you do you are a disgrace to us. You are 100% full of ****, and you are taking stabs and guys that know WAAAAAYYY more than you could imagine. I suggest you start over with a different name and never tell us that this was your old name because none of us will ever respect you now. Good job dumb ass.
Aye pipe down i already delt with you...at this point I gave ya'll an out...but you wanted to keep flaming cuz thats what you do best...just a bunch of flaming simple individuals that got nothing better to do with your lives...'you are a disgrace to us'...stfu with that bullshyt...I'd almost want this to continue because you idiots are highly entertaining...I got like 4 different people laughing at you fools over here...great way to destroy a decent post though, good job...and you especially son cuz your a child...still fighting for that big-wheel right? Come back at me when you have some big boy insults ok...I've got little cousins more mature then you...and its really fascinating because you are getting all your panties all in twist now aren't u...no respect 4 me? oh gosh that really hurts there right to the heart...what type pussy-manufactured clowns are you???...I actually had respect for flapjack before he wanted to come like a lil fairy and try to shyt all over me...but its ok though cuz i seen bigger birdshyts on my windshield...damn those sparrows...this was a really cool topic to until you decided to make shyt fit about my numbers...dyno worshiping ass-midgets...tell you the truth your so caught up with numbers and rwhp and my claims that your not even in touch with your car being a Ford Mustang anymore...Your not even in touch with me as a Mustang driver that just simply loves his car...instead you choose to spit nothing but pure HATE at me as a fellow Mustang owner...and truthfully thats the pathetic part...this is stupid worthless dis session now but if you guys keep trying to disrespect me then I will continue to disrespect you ten times harder...
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 11:02:54 PM
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LOVE that hood, forensicsteve. How much did it cost you?
Thanks. Think it was about $500 before the paint and $37.50 for the booster seat. It's functional. You can see the vented area under the hood close to the windshield.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 11:35:07 PM
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Disclamer...This post is nothing more than sarcasm poking fun of blissful ignorance ricers turned stang owners.
No need to poke fun at yourself...flapjack already does that shyt for you..."flame on!"...ya'll need stop puttin' out sex tapes cuz u keep inciting all the other flaming invdividuals to come out and make themselves known...ya'll keep fantasizing about them trannies aight...and while your at it put some work up into your car so that cobalt down the street doesn't keep owning your ass...your disgracing me and everyone else that puts work into our cars...next
Disclaimer...I apologize for a few remarks in my last post...no one should ever take pride in beating poor Honda Civic owners to aid in there own self-esteem...or Datsun owners for that matter...
Uh oh......is it that time of the month again for you illegal. I've been around this forum way longer than you and know an infinte amount more about the internal combustion engine than you. You know what...I'm not even gonna fight with you. I'm gonna act like an adult and ask you a couple question:
1. Post pics of your stang?
2. Are by chance from the cobalt forums?
3. How did you figure the number 260whp? max hp with bolt ons is 210-220 at MAX.
4. Did you dady touch you when you where a child?
Modding 101 for you noob: When you put mods on your car you can't trust company hp numbers and you can't just add horsepower like that. There is more to it than that.
Oh and to speak for flapjack, he has stage 3 heads w/ cams and is blowning i think 12psi. He hasn't gotten a dyno yet but he did get 360whp BEFORE HIS HEAD SWAP. So before you flame people you need to go check your info.
Now its time for you to go to bed little boy.
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 11:42:02 PM
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flapjack put down 364rwhp BEFORE the heads and cams. many of us here have seen the dyno. There is no doubt in my mind he is VERY close to or above 400rwhp. I'm sure when he sees this he will post up the dyno for you...now where is your dyno at? Nobody here beleives you, and to tell you the truth, i doubt you even own a mustang. If you do you are a disgrace to us. You are 100% full of ****, and you are taking stabs and guys that know WAAAAAYYY more than you could imagine. I suggest you start over with a different name and never tell us that this was your old name because none of us will ever respect you now. Good job dumb ass.
Aye pipe down i already delt with you...at this point I gave ya'll an out...but you wanted to keep flaming cuz thats what you do best...just a bunch of flaming simple individuals that got nothing better to do with your lives...'you are a disgrace to us'...stfu with that bullshyt...I'd almost want this to continue because you idiots are highly entertaining...I got like 4 different people laughing at you fools over here...great way to destroy a decent post though, good job...and you especially son cuz your a child...still fighting for that big-wheel right? Come back at me when you have some big boy insults ok...I've got little cousins more mature then you...and its really fascinating because you are getting all your panties all in twist now aren't u...no respect 4 me? oh gosh that really hurts there right to the heart...what type pussy-manufactured clowns are you???...I actually had respect for flapjack before he wanted to come like a lil fairy and try to shyt all over me...but its ok though cuz i seen bigger birdshyts on my windshield...damn those sparrows...this was a really cool topic to until you decided to make shyt fit about my numbers...dyno worshiping ass-midgets...tell you the truth your so caught up with numbers and rwhp and my claims that your not even in touch with your car being a Ford Mustang anymore...Your not even in touch with me as a Mustang driver that just simply loves his car...instead you choose to spit nothing but pure HATE at me as a fellow Mustang owner...and truthfully thats the pathetic part...this is stupid worthless dis session now but if you guys keep trying to disrespect me then I will continue to disrespect you ten times harder...
yea i guess calling people out on lies is so much less mature than calling people a "pussy, child, birdshyt, and a clown." wow you are so right i really need to grow up.
show me the dynos or stfu. don't have a scanner? take a pic with your digital camera. Don't have one of those? go to the library and scan it. Don't call me names to try and move the thread away from you posting your dyno numbers. Just admit you made them up, have no idea what you are talking about, and that you are very immature...then you can be on your way. Oh and you are right. To most here i am a child. I'm 16. Sucks to be less intelligent, mature, and mechanically inclined than a 16 year old doesn't it?
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RE: Supercharge Sixer vs Mustang Gt - 1/25/2007 11:47:03 PM
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Wow... I'm speachless to this entire thread... the first page was fine... but what the hell happened after that?? Flapjack... if you have your dyno sheet I've been wanting to see it for a long time so PLEAAASE post it. I'm deffinitely looking into the Procharger system and I know I've talked to you about it and what not but I deffinitely want to see your latest dyno because I guess I'm the only asscan loser that hasn't seen it.
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