cant stand the movie. Nic Cage cannot suspend disbelief. You always know its Nic Cage when he is on the screen. Add the technical BS that is on par with "fast and fictitious" movies for complete fantasy, and the movie loses its charm.
...and the movie Bullitt is the complete oppositte, one of the best car duels in movie history, McQueen's fastback vs Bad guys's Dodge Charger, not only was it awesome, but done realistically, not fantastical like the remake of Gone in 60 seconds with Cage.
bullit was the first movie with a mustang in it the gone in 60 sec your talking about is a remake the first one is alot better and eleanor was a 73 mach1 not a chip fosse designed gt500 gt350 mix
bullit was the first movie with a mustang in it the gone in 60 sec your talking about is a remake the first one is alot better and eleanor was a 73 mach1 not a chip fosse designed gt500 gt350 mix
I believe I pointed that out as well:
"not fantastical like the remake of Gone in 60 seconds with Cage"
Well at the risk of being attacked I will speak up. I personally think the Shelby body mods really made the original Mustang look more "mean" and/or racey. When the movie came out, I fell in love with the car all over again. The movie was okay but nowhere as good as Bullitt. Anyway, I agree that "Eleanor" has jacked up the prices and that is bad if you want one but good if you have one. When there is interest in a car or it has a following there must be some appeal. I still love the look and I don't feel that it will be dated because it is so much like a Shelby, it has the 65 R type bumperless nose which I have always loved about the 65 R and the rest such as the flares, skirts and scoops just add to the road race look. Those that don't like it have the right and purists never liked "restomods" but some of us can't afford Shelbys or rare versions of Mustangs. I'm taking a plain run-of-the-mill 67 coupe that was otherwise destined for the junkyard and making my own version of an Eleanorized Shelby type coupe because I like it and if others don't I'll be bummmed but I'm not building it for others. It's my dream car and I want it to be a cross between a Cali Special and Shelby. If you walk past it at a car show and ignore it, it won't hurt my feelings. Then again I think the red headed step child 78 King Cobra is cool! And for the record my "why bother clone" with a 429 and 4 wheel disk brakes is more than a rice burner with glass stuck on it!
< Message edited by tarafied1 -- 1/19/2007 10:44:02 PM >
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It's not directly related to Eleanor but it is a clone of sorts and it is pretty sharp! I've seen some coupes that have been made into Eleanor and they too look sharp. The one below is kinda what mine will look like.
Eleanor is a code name given by the theves in the movie to a 73 Mustang in the originial and a GT500 in the remake. The Eleanor creating the buzz is just a customized Mustang but supposed to be a Shelby. The aftermarket is simply recreating the appearance of the movie car with specific fiberglass body parts. Not much different than Caroll Shelby did in the 60's with the Mustang. Unique performance which is the main company making "Eleanor" or GT500E's as they call them offer various levels of performance upgrades inculding modern suspension and a superchaarged Shelby aluminum 427 called the Super Snake. Many guys here seem to be bashing the "Eleanor" as a clone, but there are also a lot of white 65 & 66 Mustangs with blue strips cloning the original Shelby look. As for the look, you can buy just body kits and make your own or buy a turn key GT500E. People like myself are making a "restomod" Mustang with the fiberglass body mods but not a replica or clone of the movie car. As with anything there are some poorly done examples out there but I think the debate or question is asking what is your opinion of all the "Eleanor's" out there. I hope this answers your question.
^^^ And just to add to that...like them or hate them, the real GT500E codes built by Unique Performance are Licensed Shelby vehicles that come with a shelby vin and are added to the Shelby registery. If I had 214,000 bones to burn, I wouldn't completely count out buying a 725hp super snake.
Well my dislike stems from wanting to be different than everyone else rather than just like someone else. While plenty of people own the same cars I do, few are like mine. They are an extension of me, and a car like that is an extension of someone else. I dont leave anything stock for long simply because it doesnt feel like mine if I do. I have to put my own personal stamp of approval on what I drive. That doesnt mean I need to add a doodad or trinket, often they look stock with a slight outward appearance change, ususally something subtle, but mechanically there are often huge changes.
Making a car to look like a movie car (only exceptions being the 55 in Grafitti and Two Lane, and the Yellow Deuce from Grafitti) just doesnt fit with my own personal idiom. Even if I did make a car like one of the two exceptions, it would still be more like my version of it. The fact that I dont have either now is testament to doing something already done isnt a high priority.. :)
Large big powa NA cubic inches, rattle cans and 15" wheels make you unique these days...lol....
Well my dislike stems from wanting to be different than everyone else rather than just like someone else. While plenty of people own the same cars I do, few are like mine. They are an extension of me, and a car like that is an extension of someone else. I dont leave anything stock for long simply because it doesnt feel like mine if I do. I have to put my own personal stamp of approval on what I drive. That doesnt mean I need to add a doodad or trinket, often they look stock with a slight outward appearance change, ususally something subtle, but mechanically there are often huge changes.
Making a car to look like a movie car (only exceptions being the 55 in Grafitti and Two Lane, and the Yellow Deuce from Grafitti) just doesnt fit with my own personal idiom. Even if I did make a car like one of the two exceptions, it would still be more like my version of it. The fact that I dont have either now is testament to doing something already done isnt a high priority.. :) Large big powa NA cubic inches, rattle cans and 15" wheels make you unique these days...lol....
I agree with what you are saying about making it your own. I am taking what I like about Eleanor and doing just that to mine. As far as the whole Eleanor trend goes I understand people not wanting to see them all over but how many have you actually seen? I personally have seen only a few in real life. They are simply good looking in my opinion and while I wouldn't ordinarily duplicate any car exactly myself I'd love to have one. Especially the Super Snake. I think making a copy of a movie car is much more honorable than cloning a rare collector car such as a real GT500. At least anyone looking at Eleanor won't be deceived into thinking it was a car ole Caroll himself made back in the day.
...As far as the whole Eleanor trend goes I understand people not wanting to see them all over but how many have you actually seen? I personally have seen only a few in real life....
That's a really good point now that you bring it up. Even with all the fuss they have caused and even after Unique Performance came out with the real, registered versions, I think I've maybe seen 1 or 2 "REAL" eleanor 500E's at Hot August Nights and Goodguys, and I would say AT MOST maybe 3 or 4 clones at various Nor-Cal car shows. People like to hate things they can't have.
In that case I hate Eleanor, the Enzo, and the Dodge Tomahawk bike
Every time I have watch the Gone in 60 seconds remake, ive replayed the scene where cage first steals Eleanor a dozen times. Seeing that powerslide, and hearing that awesome V8 gets me going every time. The car itself? whatever.
Every time I have watch the Gone in 60 seconds remake, ive replayed the scene where cage first steals Eleanor a dozen times. Seeing that powerslide, and hearing that awesome V8 gets me going every time. The car itself? whatever.
When i think of the movie the part that stands out is when he is in flood control with the chopper chasin him, he is doing 90mph and running 6000rpm in top gear... then he hits the nitrous and runs to over 160... something about that just isnt kosher if you know anything about cars, and blatantly so if you know how nitrous works, along with gear ratios... Next up is the jump scene on the bridge.. add to that all the "movie car guy" talk that smacks of FnF sillyness and the movie was just runied for me.
having been trained to notice things out of place by our illustrious USAF, it really bothers me more than I can express in words. hence why I litterally hate most "car" movies.. and more than a few military movies where they arent technically accurate or have none of the expected actions and reactions among the ranks. and messed up ranks, uniforms, haircuts, etc,etc,etc,etc...
I havent seen ANY of them, but I live in BFE. I mostly see 4x4s, minivans, campers, and snowmobiles here. I think there are like 15 car guys in the surrounding 50 sq miles. FYI I am about 3 hours west of St Ignace (where there is a huge car show every June) and about a mile from the big lake. Its remote here...
ORIGINAL: THUMPIN455 When i think of the movie the part that stands out is when he is in flood control with the chopper chasin him, he is doing 90mph and running 6000rpm in top gear... then he hits the nitrous and runs to over 160... something about that just isnt kosher if you know anything about cars, and blatantly so if you know how nitrous works, along with gear ratios... Next up is the jump scene on the bridge.. add to that all the "movie car guy" talk that smacks of FnF sillyness and the movie was just runied for me.
having been trained to notice things out of place by our illustrious USAF, it really bothers me more than I can express in words. hence why I litterally hate most "car" movies.. and more than a few military movies where they arent technically accurate or have none of the expected actions and reactions among the ranks. and messed up ranks, uniforms, haircuts, etc,etc,etc,etc...
I know what you mean. My wife is canstantly telling me off for ruining movies for her when I point out all the inaccuracies. I've tried to stop doing it just so I can watch a movie and enjoy it. But anyway, whats wrong with hitting the nitrous at 6000rpm in top? LOL!!!! Go Baby Go!!!
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