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aight it goes like this I stop at a light with 10 cars at the light its a 3 lane highway and this Z28 stops next to my Stang and his girl looks over and is checkin out my ride and she says hott car and her b/f looks over and gives me the finger and spins his tires ...about a min. later I'm at another light and so is the camaro I really didnt think I would have a chance but when the light turned green I took off I didnt even spin them in first once I hit second they gave a chirp and I was a good car length ahead of him right when I was half way threw 3'd I spotted to pigs ahead so that was the end of the race....so what r those Z28's hp? it was a newer model had to b an 01 or 02...anyway I had a nice rush and in another month I'll have a full Basani exhaust on my baby hell yea!!
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and on the street at that!! on the track i could see this outcome if you got a good run and he was all over the place. it's amazing how an inexperienced driver can turn a 13.5 second car into a 15 second car. on the track it happens to all of us the first time, but on the street? well, unless you run into him again and find out what happened....we may never know for sure....
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[QUOTE=WhiteMagic]whats an LS1 is it a Z28? and how much hp is in one of those...and someone posted that a Z28 runs 13.5 in the 1/4 whats a stock GT run I heard 14's??[/QUOTE]
LS1's with the right driver and radials can kiss 12's. Not everyone can do that...
GT's as far as I see, can run anywhere from 13.8-15.0 stock depending on the transmission and how much you want to abuse it.
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You're all missing the point here, his girlfriend was the fattest chunk of lard this side of the missisipi, and with that excessive 450lb weight on the right side of his car, he couldnt pull you even if he was the best driver in the world. Now I dont have experience in this area, but let this be a lesson to all you racers, if you have a pretty thick g/f, im talking 5'8'' 400+, tell her you'll pick her up later when your planning to race, and drop her off at a buffet to keep her occupied. Or just dump her now so you dont have to go through all of this each time you wanna run someone.
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[QUOTE=95Stealth302]
You're all missing the point here, his girlfriend was the fattest chunk of lard this side of the missisipi, and with that excessive 450lb weight on the right side of his car, he couldnt pull you even if he was the best driver in the world. Now I dont have experience in this area, but let this be a lesson to all you racers, if you have a pretty thick g/f, im talking 5'8'' 400+, tell her you'll pick her up later when your planning to race, and drop her off at a buffet to keep her occupied. Or just dump her now so you dont have to go through all of this each time you wanna run someone.
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Man if he did race ya, you got lucky. An LS1 will honestly stomp you in the ground if you have a stock GT. That is ANY year GT. Trust me on that. I have seen these things run 12's with very little done to them. I drove one last night that had nothing more than long tube headers and a stall with 2.73 gears (no kidding) that will run a 12.1 in the 1/4 and I saw it run a 7.8 in the 1/8th. He has no nitrous, and really he doesnt need it. Its an amazing car, simply because another friend of mine has an 01 WS6 that runs the same but has a cam headers gears rockers air box LS6 intake and a few other things done to it, his best run has been a 7.6 last year in cool weather.
A stock LS1 will run right about an 8.8 in the 1/8. Auto or stick, doesnt matter. That is a mid 13 in the 1/4. I havent seen a stock GT pull better than a 9.3. Mustangs are nice to drive, but the LS1 and most LT1's have them covered. Thats just how it is.
Like Dan said, enjoy it because if he knows you are racing you wont pull him.
Lots of tiumes I see a car that cant hang with me tryin to act tough. I just let them go because they arent worth the gas and a possible ticket to prove to some kid that his car isnt faster than mine. Just how it is bro.
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yea the thing is tho this guy wanted to race...he was givin the look and nod at me and revin his car up like mad ( LOL and his g/f didnt look 400 lbs hahaha that was 2 funny bro!) I guess I just got licky for whatever.....and can anyone give me ideas on how to make my stang run 12's without nitrous or any other forced induction...thanks
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A stock 99+ gt can run 12's without touching the motor... lower control arms, 4.10 gears, slicks, no front sway bar, timing adjuster and cat-back exhaust. I've seen it done.
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[QUOTE=95Stealth302]
You're all missing the point here, his girlfriend was the fattest chunk of lard this side of the missisipi, and with that excessive 450lb weight on the right side of his car, he couldnt pull you even if he was the best driver in the world. Now I dont have experience in this area, but let this be a lesson to all you racers, if you have a pretty thick g/f, im talking 5'8'' 400+, tell her you'll pick her up later when your planning to race, and drop her off at a buffet to keep her occupied. Or just dump her now so you dont have to go through all of this each time you wanna run someone.
Just a little advice.
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That is funny, thanks I needed a good laugh today!
And that LS1 had two bad wires or plugs, or someone driving that does not deserve to own it
Man if he did race ya, you got lucky. An LS1 will honestly stomp you in the ground if you have a stock GT. That is ANY year GT. Trust me on that. I have seen these things run 12's with very little done to them. I drove one last night that had nothing more than long tube headers and a stall with 2.73 gears (no kidding) that will run a 12.1 in the 1/4 and I saw it run a 7.8 in the 1/8th. He has no nitrous, and really he doesnt need it. Its an amazing car, simply because another friend of mine has an 01 WS6 that runs the same but has a cam headers gears rockers air box LS6 intake and a few other things done to it, his best run has been a 7.6 last year in cool weather.
A stock LS1 will run right about an 8.8 in the 1/8. Auto or stick, doesnt matter. That is a mid 13 in the 1/4. I havent seen a stock GT pull better than a 9.3. Mustangs are nice to drive, but the LS1 and most LT1's have them covered. Thats just how it is.
Like Dan said, enjoy it because if he knows you are racing you wont pull him.
Lots of tiumes I see a car that cant hang with me tryin to act tough. I just let them go because they arent worth the gas and a possible ticket to prove to some kid that his car isnt faster than mine. Just how it is bro.
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If he was running a 12.1, he had a crapload more stuff than headers and a hi-stall. That's quicker than almost every Z06.
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[QUOTE=GSRGuy18][QUOTE=Mysterious]
Man if he did race ya, you got lucky. An LS1 will honestly stomp you in the ground if you have a stock GT. That is ANY year GT. Trust me on that. I have seen these things run 12's with very little done to them. I drove one last night that had nothing more than long tube headers and a stall with 2.73 gears (no kidding) that will run a 12.1 in the 1/4 and I saw it run a 7.8 in the 1/8th. He has no nitrous, and really he doesnt need it. Its an amazing car, simply because another friend of mine has an 01 WS6 that runs the same but has a cam headers gears rockers air box LS6 intake and a few other things done to it, his best run has been a 7.6 last year in cool weather.
A stock LS1 will run right about an 8.8 in the 1/8. Auto or stick, doesnt matter. That is a mid 13 in the 1/4. I havent seen a stock GT pull better than a 9.3. Mustangs are nice to drive, but the LS1 and most LT1's have them covered. Thats just how it is.
Like Dan said, enjoy it because if he knows you are racing you wont pull him.
Lots of tiumes I see a car that cant hang with me tryin to act tough. I just let them go because they arent worth the gas and a possible ticket to prove to some kid that his car isnt faster than mine. Just how it is bro.
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If he was running a 12.1, he had a crapload more stuff than headers and a hi-stall. That's quicker than almost every Z06.
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GSR, you beat me to it. I agree, he had a lot more done than that to run 12.1. No way! And a stock ls1 running an 8.8 in the 1/8? I don't think so. I wouldn't post against you if I didn't know what I was talking about, but in this case, I do. I see these cars run every single weekend, and trust me, the best stock 1/8 time I've seen from a Z28 is around 9.40. Our track isn't the best for low et's, but i would say about 9.30 at any other track at the most. Stock GT's are running about a 9.70-9.80. I know this for a fact, because I owned a 2001 GT, and I raced it a total of about 55 times down the track, and the best I could run was a 9.77. I then put 3.73 gears, chip, and underdrive pulleys on it, and the best I got was a 9.54. Now, my best time in the 1/8 with the Z06 was an 8.71 @ 85 mph. So you're telling me a stock ls1 will run within 1/10th of a Z06 Corvette? lol Something isn't right. Maybe it was 9.80 that you were thinking of... And by the way, it does matter if it's a stick or an auto. Stick's put more power to the wheels than an automatic, therefore making you go faster. You would probably gain about a 1/10th just by having a stick vs. an auto. Yes, the ls1 will beat a GT, but I think your numbers are just a little off. No problem though.
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Nah really guys. These are cars I am VERY familiar with. I ran the stock 98 LS1 myself and it ran exactly an 8.8. Nothing done to it. I was very impressed. About the 12.1 car, Headers and a stall. 2.73 gears, oh and I did forget DR's. Simply amazing to all of us. Now we also have a few LS1's that are runnin high 13's stock, and an LT1 that is turnin about 14.4 best in Hawaii, but quite a few of them run pretty good. What the magazines say about the cars isnt always reliable. They granny shift and try way to hard not to spin the tires. Some of these cars are runing better than quite a few others. But for the most part an LS1 will go mid 13's, and LT1's are usually low 14 or high 13, depending on driver and air etc.
Stick to Auto, well the Auto runs just as good as the 6 spds down here. Not much difference. My old beater ran better with a TH400 than it did with a Super T10 4 spd. Trust me I can shift and I can cut a light with a 4 gear. I never missed (Untill it broke) and never lifted off the gas whenI shifted. (thats why it broke) but the Auto ran .3 better than the 4 spd in my car when it was turning mid 13's. maybe the stall and torque muyltiplication have something to do with it. The 60 fts are better in my car with an auto and it spun less with the stick. Go figure. Maybe the stick just feels faster, or people who can drive a stick arent as afraid to beat it.. I dunno... I beat everything mercelessly...lol.
No kidding, I can get video and timeslips from the 12.1 car and the 8.8 car. he got a best of 8.6 in the 98 Ls1 last fall. im not pullin your leg and we do have good air downhere sometimes. check it out for your self. www.scfyb.com Some are modded some arent. We dont feel a need to BS anyone about our cars, because we all see the slips after the run. And we call eachother out on BS all the time...lol.
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Simply do not underestimate the power of an LS1. They are VERY VERY capable, with the RIGHT driver and radials, to touch 12's STOCK! These motors are so distgustingly RESPONSIVE to minor mods..simple bolt ons can throw you well into the 12's. I will say that 2.73's sounds alittle fishy..you would have to launch the living HELL out of a car with 2.73's to pull 12.1's with minor mods.
The heads have the 'old' school big block design of oval ports. These flows 9834932982914399298x's better....
Mysterious, AOD's have consistantcy that a manual doesn't have. Also you have the advantage of a converter, not to mention it's 10 times easier to launch an auto than it is a 5 speed. All you have to do is feather the clutch too much and you can lose 2-3 tenths just from the line, and that's not counting the other tenths you can lose from shifting.
BUT, someone who can figure out a manual, can equal an automatic & out perform it at every marker on the track ;)
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I feather nothing. i run slicks on my cars! I dump it wherever it runs fastest. If it is 5k or 2500. I just build a good Automatic...lol. I was surprised at the 2.73's too. I drove it and it has them. Doesnt shift out of first untill 60 mph! The stall is a 4200...lol I didnt mention that did I?