I spoke with R&E Racing today and they are now selling the Powerdyne blower kit for our cars for $2950!!!!

nice price, how much psi does it run? what are the gains?

I believe it's 7-8 psi and 420h.p at the rear wheels?

It's a non-intercooled kit, but Powerdyne's are internally belt driven and don't require oil. that means they run cooler, and you don't have to tap into your oil pan as with Vortech's. The Ford Motorsport centrifugals for fox and sn-95 cars are Powerdyne's with Ford's name stamped on them. If they will stand behind it I see no reason not to buy one.

it comes with injectors/tuner/all the goodies. check out their site or re-racing.com. R&E's website lists them at $3500 (still a DEAL), but they told me today that they lowered the price to $2950 to compete with Paxton and Vortech (both @3200)

buyer beware, you usually get what you pay for.

umm yeah - they're compareably with the other centrifugals. They've been around for well over 10 years. With cent's the power isnt "right now", but at least they are very easy to install yourself and remove for warranty work if need be.

A roots/screw will make more power at a lower rpm - but at $2500-$3000 more. Funny how everybody (including me) ran cent's on their Fox's and SN-95's and nobody complained. Somehow everybody thinks they're crap now?. The roots are great but they are ridiculously overpiced.

Whats the # to this R&E racing?

ORIGINAL: Norse1974

Whats the # to this R&E racing?


1-800-breakdownalot :DI wouldn't trust it.

Cheaper is not always better ...
The more you pay usually the better quality and longer lasting and safer the product is and that goes with almost anything .... buti really really hope you proved me wrong

Well,,,Do we know anyone here on the site who has this set up?Or will Rodeoflyer be the first?

im not the first. like i said it's the blower Ford Racing has been selling for years. ask around about it.

R&E Racing - (661)948-7622

I'm a strong oppenent to YGWYPF. Whatever people want to belive, there are deals out there. The powerdyne centrifigal supercharger is a good kit, and is comparable in quality to the Vortech kit. Now, I wouldn't get a non-intercooled supercharger, but for the price, this is a HELL of a good deal.

Its funny how the people who come in here and talk about how powerdyne is crap (or cheap is bad) all have less then 50 posts....

Go for it, to be honest, thats for pointing it out. I may have to go for it as well. I'm not looking for amazing power, and this seems to be a great $/hp deal.

~Fred

yea im in the same boat i mean i cant push more than 450rwhp on the before rebuilding the motor anyways


i mean 3k is a big damn difference

What does the my number of post have to do with anything in this thread ? I only post whenI have something constuctive to add. What I should have said maybe was to be sure to make the right decision for his wants and needs. Price alone should not be the determining factor and shoud carry less weight in the decision making process than quality.I tryto bye the best products I can then do all the dirty work myself thats wereI would try and save the money.

I have a Chevy pickup that I put a Powerdyne supercharger on. Honestly I was not impressed with the power gains. I bought the Powerdyne because I got a deal through Summit Racing (15% off). I was looking to do a supercharger and that was the one I could afford at the time. There were a few parts missing from the package but they shipped them out to me in 2 days.

Not only was I not impressed with the power, but literally like ONE week after the warranty ran out on it, it started squealing like crazy and I had to remove the belt before I melted the thing into a solid chunk of metal. Eventually I'll take it to a shop and have it repaired so that I can sell the truck and buy Mustang parts.

Maybe my particular Powerdyne was a rare faulty one, but my experience with it was enough to make me never think of buying one again. It's not like I raced around and abused it.

Usually, but sometimes you're just getting screwed.


ORIGINAL: Haulupki

buyer beware, you usually get what you pay for.

Maybe you screwed the pooch sort of speak on the installation. You weren't impressed with the power gains? Did you have it dynoed?


ORIGINAL: suoperdave84

I have a Chevy pickup that I put a Powerdyne supercharger on. Honestly I was not impressed with the power gains. I bought the Powerdyne because I got a deal through Summit Racing (15% off). I was looking to do a supercharger and that was the one I could afford at the time. There were a few parts missing from the package but they shipped them out to me in 2 days.

Not only was I not impressed with the power, but literally like ONE week after the warranty ran out on it, it started squealing like crazy and I had to remove the belt before I melted the thing into a solid chunk of metal. Eventually I'll take it to a shop and have it repaired so that I can sell the truck and buy Mustang parts.

Maybe my particular Powerdyne was a rare faulty one, but my experience with it was enough to make me never think of buying one again. It's not like I raced around and abused it.

No I didn't have it dynoed and I didn't install it myself. A friend of mine who worked for a turbo shop down the street did it at his house. He knew what he was doing. It was a pretty straight forward setup though...not a lot to mess up.

so would you recommend the kit? i mean its not a twin screw and stuff but i havnt heard really anything bad about them

Powerdyne has been around for a good long time, they got to be doing something right... and comeon, a blower on a chevy truck, if it was an older one, ie:5.7l or 5.0l, you would need major head and intake work for it to be worth a damn, if it was a newer vortech series, 5.3, 6.0 etc, something wasnt tuned right for you not to have decent power gains. as far as it grenading on you, anything could have cause that, a faulty bearing, too much tension, any thing.

Powerdyne makes a decent Entry Level Supercharger however they will require belt replacements and bearings changes pretty often. I know many guys that had tried them on there F-150's due to the low cost and have spent more on belt and bearing changes putting them at what a Procharger or Vortech would have cost to begin with. Just be advised they are inexpensive for a reason. The Powerdyne also have no room for growth meaning you get what it is and cannot increase boost. Also 7-8 PSI on non inter cooled boost is very dangerous the intake charge is still going to get very hot. Most of the Powerdyne only run
6 PSI because of this

Richard

they are very much an entry level blower. the belt and bearings eventually will need changing, but they arent that expensive and it's not that hard to do. If your looking for big power they're not the one for you. If you want something fairly inexpensive and want a significant but not huge horsepower increase they are great. My personal feeling is that most of the blowers out there put the numbers way too close to the edge for our short block. like i've already said, it's also very easily removed. i could remove it right now and drop my car off at the dealer by 5. you can't do that with a roots blower.

Sounds like there are some good points being made by both sides of the fence.....I gotta think this over.........

How many miles were on your pickup?

You see what i'm getting at right? You really can't blame the blower because you weren't impressed by the power gains. Hell for all we know it was producing exactly what it advertised, but your butt dyno wasn't impressed.

After looking at it I think i'll just spend a few thousand more and get the saleen. It does look cheap in those pictures.


ORIGINAL: suoperdave84

No I didn't have it dynoed and I didn't install it myself. A friend of mine who worked for a turbo shop down the street did it at his house. He knew what he was doing. It was a pretty straight forward setup though...not a lot to mess up.

ORIGINAL: Norse1974

Well,,,Do we know anyone here on the site who has this set up?Or will Rodeoflyer be the first?


I have a powerdyne system going in late next week. I paid even less then that for mine tho. I will post some info once I install it.

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Powerdyne makes a decent Entry Level Supercharger however they will require belt replacements and bearings changes pretty often. I know many guys that had tried them on there F-150's due to the low cost and have spent more on belt and bearing changes putting them at what a Procharger or Vortech would have cost to begin with. Just be advised they are inexpensive for a reason. The Powerdyne also have no room for growth meaning you get what it is and cannot increase boost. Also 7-8 PSI on non inter cooled boost is very dangerous the intake charge is still going to get very hot. Most of the Powerdyne only run
6 PSI because of this

Richard

Actually you can upgrade the pully (called powerdyne to ask about it) and since they require no engine oil puping threw then it wont get any warmer then a vorteq or a procharger, and you can easily install an intercooler for one. I have a procharger intercooler from a friend who blew his procharger up and now is gong turbo and i will eventually (once I fabricate the pipeing) intercool mine.

ORIGINAL: Ruffnuts

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Powerdyne makes a decent Entry Level Supercharger however they will require belt replacements and bearings changes pretty often. I know many guys that had tried them on there F-150's due to the low cost and have spent more on belt and bearing changes putting them at what a Procharger or Vortech would have cost to begin with. Just be advised they are inexpensive for a reason. The Powerdyne also have no room for growth meaning you get what it is and cannot increase boost. Also 7-8 PSI on non inter cooled boost is very dangerous the intake charge is still going to get very hot. Most of the Powerdyne only run
6 PSI because of this

Richard

Actually you can upgrade the pully (called powerdyne to ask about it) and since they require no engine oil puping threw then it wont get any warmer then a vorteq or a procharger, and you can easily install an intercooler for one. I have a procharger intercooler from a friend who blew his procharger up and now is gong turbo and i will eventually (once I fabricate the pipeing) intercool mine.


You cannot upgrade without a intercooler with the Powerdyne. Like i said it is a very Entry Level Supercharger Kit. Everyone i know that has installed one has only had it for like 6 month and then sold it and purchased either a Procharger or KB.And the bearings and belt will need to be replaced even sooner. I know there is a guy on Ebay that sells and upgraded Kevlar Belt and some upgraded bearings but even those only last so long. Also the Procharger does NOT use engine oil it has it's own self contained oiling system. And there base kit is 9 PSI upgradeable to 12 PSI Double what the Powerdyne is.

Richard

The Powerdyne Kit is good for someone looking to increase thier Butt Dyno. It adds about 100 hp, easily installed, and in cheap (complete kit with tune is $2900 shipped). This is good for someone not looking to hard core race, but to keep their engine at a safe level and keep the car at a daily driver status, wouldn't you agree?

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

ORIGINAL: Ruffnuts

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

Powerdyne makes a decent Entry Level Supercharger however they will require belt replacements and bearings changes pretty often. I know many guys that had tried them on there F-150's due to the low cost and have spent more on belt and bearing changes putting them at what a Procharger or Vortech would have cost to begin with. Just be advised they are inexpensive for a reason. The Powerdyne also have no room for growth meaning you get what it is and cannot increase boost. Also 7-8 PSI on non inter cooled boost is very dangerous the intake charge is still going to get very hot. Most of the Powerdyne only run
6 PSI because of this

Richard

Actually you can upgrade the pully (called powerdyne to ask about it) and since they require no engine oil puping threw then it wont get any warmer then a vorteq or a procharger, and you can easily install an intercooler for one. I have a procharger intercooler from a friend who blew his procharger up and now is gong turbo and i will eventually (once I fabricate the pipeing) intercool mine.


You cannot upgrade without a intercooler with the Powerdyne. Like i said it is a very Entry Level Supercharger Kit. Everyone i know that has installed one has only had it for like 6 month and then sold it and purchased either a Procharger or KB.And the bearings and belt will need to be replaced even sooner. I know there is a guy on Ebay that sells and upgraded Kevlar Belt and some upgraded bearings but even those only last so long. Also the Procharger does NOT use engine oil it has it's own self contained oiling system. And there base kit is 9 PSI upgradeable to 12 PSI Double what the Powerdyne is.

Richard

Yes you can upgrade it without a intercooler, call powerdyne and see for yourselfand yes i know procharger ha sits own oil I meant it has no internal lubricants to get hot or use any to stay hot like others, . Yes this is an intro lvl blower but a safe intro one at that and I do plan on using an itercooler since I have a doner one for free. Just for kicks I decided to take a digital temp gauge and temp install it on my friends 03 gt that is procharged, first we put the temp sensor in the intake pipe to get a reading on outside air temp and went for a smal drive. outside air temp was 61 degrees. Then we put it in thebefore the intercooler and drove around at normal speeds then freeway to open her up. air temp got as high as 117, we then put the sensor after the intercooler and did the same and I was disapointed as was he with how little the coler cools the air we saw a high temp of 96. we called a friend who works for blue oval erformance and he said thats about normal for an air cooler. So now i am thinking i may not even want to bother with an intercoler untill I decide to really push some power. As far as how long the blower will last who knows I hear some bad from here and on other including non ford forums (best friend is a chevy freak) I hear good things and some driving over 50k with no issues. I also have spoken to some performance shops like Delk, THR, Blue oval performance, local speed shop here.. And have heard good and bad about alot of power adders, have heard of 3 Kenne bells blowing up, 2 Prochargers(to include my friends) 1 turbo system, 3 Vorteq,s, 1 Saleen, 1 Rousch, and 1 Powerdyne (was on an old Camaro so more then likely it was chevys fault). and almost every story I am told seems to be owner error not equiptment. But as i said was my deciding reason on going this route was low low cost, 1/3rd the cost of a KB and Saleen and being military i am not rich to begin with.

There is a difference between adding a smaller pulley and adding a smaller pulley SAFELY. As for your digital Temp gauge test that is no where near accurate enough to even use as data. A digital gauge can not accurately measure air temp flow. I would suspect that your temp readings were more related to underhood heat soak temps than actual air flow intake charge temps. I have already said the Powerdyne is a nice Entry Level kit. My thoughts are if your going to spend 2900.00 for it why not spendabout 1000.00more and get a Procharger. That is what i did for my F-150 When making a purchase of this nature do your research it pays. So far it seems as though you are but consider the long haul not just the short term cost.

Richard

I can't believe I'm the first to chime in and say this, but powerdynes are complete garbage.

Seriously, post this in the 4.6 section and see what kind of response you get.

ORIGINAL: 06GT4RAD

There is a difference between adding a smaller pulley and adding a smaller pulley SAFELY. As for your digital Temp gauge test that is no where near accurate enough to even use as data. A digital gauge can not accurately measure air temp flow. I would suspect that your temp readings were more related to underhood heat soak temps than actual air flow intake charge temps. I have already said the Powerdyne is a nice Entry Level kit. My thoughts are if your going to spend 2900.00 for it why not spendabout 1000.00more and get a Procharger. That is what i did for my F-150 When making a purchase of this nature do your research it pays. So far it seems as though you are but consider the long haul not just the short term cost.

Richard
well I would need to spend like 1600+ more then whatI have spent to get a procharger so for me this was a good purchase. the temp readings were inside the pipes and reading the actuall air in the pipes so i don't know how to get more accurate then that?

for a few hundred bucks you can install a methanol/water injection system instead of an intercooler - the technology isn't new - it was done on WWII warplanes. the only downside is the cost of adding the methanol.

it's a cheap 100hp upgrade. consider this - a nitrous kit will cost you just as much in the long run with all of the bottle refills.

Check out the car on page 80 of the Feb '07 MM&FF. Other than that, I'm staying out of this one...

For those off us to poor to buy stang magazines, whats the article on?

~Fred

ORIGINAL: FredTT

For those off us to poor to buy stang magazines, whats the article on?

~Fred



It's a VERY ricey looking new edge Stang with a Powerdyne SC. I guess he's saying Powerdyne=rice.

How does a car that ugly get a magazine spread anyway?

ORIGINAL: 06SSGT

ORIGINAL: FredTT

For those off us to poor to buy stang magazines, whats the article on?

~Fred



It's a VERY ricey looking new edge Stang with a Powerdyne SC. I guess he's saying Powerdyne=rice.

How does a car that ugly get a magazine spread anyway?


Maybe you should read the write-up. And SN-95s were not "New Edge". I can't give or take kudos on the Powerdynes, I was just trying to point to another source of banter.

ORIGINAL: Mister Roper

Maybe you should read the write-up. And SN-95s were not "New Edge". I can't give or take kudos on the Powerdynes, I was just trying to point to another source of banter.


Well I couldn't look at the car long enough to tell what it really was. It was that bad.

ORIGINAL: 06SSGT

ORIGINAL: Mister Roper

Maybe you should read the write-up. And SN-95s were not "New Edge". I can't give or take kudos on the Powerdynes, I was just trying to point to another source of banter.


Well I couldn't look at the car long enough to tell what it really was. It was that bad.


LOL, I know what you're saying. ;)

I would not install a centri on the stock block S197's as the rods are such a weak link that the centris love to hit hard on the top end and at those high rpms the rods can twist and break.


And those thinking of using a meth injection as a replacment for an IC.. You might want to reconsider. when the injection fails and you are hard under boost, things will go BOOM. And there are plenty of things that can fail. run out of liquid, pump fails, vapor locks, fuse blows out,etc etc.. Not something you want for your DD.

for what it's worth...after a few months of checking around... seems Vortech makes a very good product. Strong power add and reliable.Especially if you consider the cost. $2K - $3K less than the Roush/Saleen/Keane Bell roots type. Make less power down low...... but ifyou racing your not under 25oo RPM anyway. Right?
RealSpeed Auto in Long Island NY has been installing for years and uses on a 90ish 5.0 for 10years plus as a daily dirver. He's doing a charge cooled kit next week for my 06GT Convert. He estimates with the tune and new Magnaflow's about 415-420 RWHP.
I look forward to winding it out!!! 12 sec quarters here I come!!

Don't need a S/C to run 12's [8D]

VSOP you need to do some research on the methanol injection kits. They have multiple reduntant safety features available. As far as running out of fluid, you can use pure water if you want - methanol just works better. On a supercharger putting out 6-7lbs of boost it's really not an issue anyway. I also disagree with your theory of cent's hitting rods harder than a roots/screw type. With a positive displacement blower you are in the boost practicaly all of the time. You are right though - you don't need a blower to run 12's however I would much rather spend $3000 on ONE upgrade and have 400 horsepower than $3000 on a BUNCH of upgrades for the same result. You have to accept the Powerdyne for what it is.

I have seen engines blow from Meth injection kits failing. And even the guys that run them will tell you you not to use them to the point that if it fails your engine is on the ragged edge.

And its a proven fact that the Centf S/Cer are harder on the rods.. You realize its at the high rpms that thr rods twist and fail.. That is why they will hit at a high rpm and when the rod twists the engine goes BOOM

oh I see - so we all ran vortech's, powerdyne's, and paxton's for years on our 5 liters without problems and it's something new? Please forgive me and the rest of the mustang world for being so foolish. Like I said - read up on them. If installed properly with the proper accesories you will never reach that point. The bigger point is we are talking about installing them on blower kits that do not require it in the first place. We are talking about using it to improve performance and further protect the engine. They are not mandatory.

ORIGINAL: vsop
And its a proven fact that the Centf S/Cer are harder on the rods.. You realize its at the high rpms that thr rods twist and fail.. That is why they will hit at a high rpm and when the rod twists the engine goes BOOM


Engines go "BOOM" because of detonation. I'm sure you know that while the noncentrifugal blower typically builds boost early and maintains it as rpm increases, a centrifugal blower typically builds boost exponentially. This means that as the blower's rotational rpm increases, the boost increases at a quicker rate. Key advantages of the boost increasing at higher engine speed are that there are fewer traction and detonation problems.

What is better for an engine, constant 8PSI from a noncentrifugal blower (even while daily driving to work) or less boost at a cruising RPM, and only building up to 8PSI when you really need it?

I'm not sure where you are getting your "proven facts", but I would like to see them.

~Fred

Maybe you guys should do some research on the 05+ 3v engine.. the rods are powdered cast.. They are the weak point and are what fail at high rpm when they twist.. It has nothing to do with 5.0's or any other engine.. it has to do with our rods...

Thank you Fred! [sm=exactly.gif]

ORIGINAL: vsop

Maybe you guys should do some research on the 05+ 3v engine.. the rods are powdered cast.. They are the weak point and are what fail at high rpm when they twist.. It has nothing to do with 5.0's or any other engine.. it has to do with our rods...


Do you understand at all what you are saying??? You are saying that our rods are built to fail at say 6200 RPM. If its a centrifigual or noncentrifigual blow, it makes NO difference, 8 PSI at 6200RPM from a KB is putting the same pressure on the rods as 8 PSI at 6200RPM from a Powerdyne.

~Fred

well you may not need a S/C to run in the 12s... but how do you get to 12.00 without a power add.... as far as blowing your motor due to your rods twisting - I'm not a engine expert, however If you know your car then you adjust your driving to suit. My GT is a toy for me and I'm not not going to beat it into the ground. I'll talk to my tuner about how much boost he's going put in. But at 8psi or so and not leaning it out above 5500rpm I should be fine if I take to 6000 every now and again. Droping her off Sat am for the fun to start!!

ORIGINAL: FredTT

[quote]ORIGINAL: vsop

What is better for an engine, constant 8PSI from a noncentrifugal blower (even while daily driving to work) or less boost at a cruising RPM, and only building up to 8PSI when you really need it?

~Fred




When daily driving a twin screw type S/C the boost is not constant, unless you want it to be. My car is a daily driver and runs on vacum 95 % of the time. You can drive all day long and never see boost if you don't want to.
I will agree that detonation is the key factor and should be avoidedat all cost.I got some badfuel last week and it would pingbadly on the top end. I just didn'tlet the boost kick in until a I ran thatcrap out a couple days later and filled up with better fuel.

All I can say is ,Ihave enjoyed my non-intercooled superchareger(Vortech). Runnin 9pds trouble free for almost a year.

ORIGINAL: Haulupki
When daily driving a twin screw type S/C the boost is not constant, unless you want it to be. My car is a daily driver and runs on vacum 95 % of the time. You can drive all day long and never see boost if you don't want to.


You said that backwards. With a twin screw, the boost IS constant, unless you don't want it to be. You can add a vaccum, but most (if any) don't come with them.

~Fred

I just read that the Saleen series VI has a built-in boost bypass for low-speed (low-rpm) running. How does this equate to what you're talking about?

Thanks,
Jaime

that means it is a very nice , well built blower..............that costs 6000 dollars

ORIGINAL: RodeoFlyer

that means it is a very nice , well built blower..............that costs 6000 dollars


The cost depends on where you get it from. I know of at least one place that is offering it for just a little over $4000 in a group buy. That's still expensive compared to some other setups, but as you mentioned, it's a very nice, well built blower.

I'm fairly informed on the Saleen SC, and will probably go with their setup when I'm ready. What I'm more interested in is how does the boost bypass of the Saleen compare with the vacuum setup talked about above. Does it work the same, or different. What SC is being talked about with a vacuum setup, etc...?

I want to get decent power (400+ RWHP) while keeping the engine and transmission as safe as possible. I think the Saleen is a good option for this since the boost level is low by default, and it has the bypass for low pressure situations where the boost is not needed.

Sorry for the hijack.

[sm=exactly.gif]Excatlythe boost is not constant on Twin screw S/C's. Or I should say not mine(not sure about all the others). My Vac/boost gauge doesn't go into the bonus area untilIask for it.The Saleen S/C has a vacum actuated butterfly valve that is open when@ idle or when youare just cruisingalong. Thislets the air pressure on both sides of the screws be the same or no boost. Byletting or releasingthe charged air back around and into the screws again. But when youneed or want boost, this butterfly valvecloses off and the air can not escape whichcreates pressureafter the screws and the only place for the air to go is through the intake valves.Then it gets fun!!!!!!![sm=happybounce.gif]

Bah! you can get the complete kit from jdm stage 1 kitto make 425rwhp for $5895. You get a lot more than just the blower.

http://www.teamjdm.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=212

They sell just the blower for $5130, but I know you can get it cheaper than that during a group buy on this forum when it's offered.


ORIGINAL: RodeoFlyer

that means it is a very nice , well built blower..............that costs 6000 dollars

ORIGINAL: moosestang

Bah! you can get the complete kit from jdm stage 1 kitto make 425rwhp for $5895. You get a lot more than just the blower.


You can get the Powerdyne complete kit (with all the addonns like the jdm) and make 400rwhp for $2870.

~Fred

ORIGINAL: Haulupki

[sm=exactly.gif]Excatlythe boost is not constant on Twin screw S/C's. Or I should say not mine(not sure about all the others). My Vac/boost gauge doesn't go into the bonus area untilIask for it.The Saleen S/C has a vacum actuated butterfly valve that is open when@ idle or when youare just cruisingalong. Thislets the air pressure on both sides of the screws be the same or no boost. Byletting or releasingthe charged air back around and into the screws again. But when youneed or want boost, this butterfly valvecloses off and the air can not escape whichcreates pressureafter the screws and the only place for the air to go is through the intake valves.Then it gets fun!!!!!!![sm=happybounce.gif]


Haulupki,

Thanks for the further details. That's exactly what I was looking for.

The boost is not constant on any S/C is my understanding. since they are all belt driven the boost will build with RPM. Twin Screws have a bit more at the low end then Centrifugial types. from my research the Vortech makes much more power about 3000 RPM on the 4.6 motor than the twin screw or roots types.

So maybe we are saying the same thing just from different viewpoints.


Wish me luck... dropping my baby off in about 2 hours for her mods!!! :D[sm=happybounce.gif]http://www.mustangforums.com/upfiles/smiley/happybounce.gif

Guys go with a real supercharger kit SALEEN. I heard Underground mustang is selling a 99-04 supercharger kit for no more then an extra 300-400 more then what that kit your promoting sells for, now go with a name you can trust. You can be looking at 100hp gain with what i read, so don't be afraid to try them out you guys will see what im talking about. visit www.undergroundmustang.com (http://www.undergroundmustang.com) and find out what the hype is about

Willie Mustangs
07GTKING

first of all dumbass this thread is over a month old - pretty much case closed

second of all the kit you speak of is for 99-04 - NOT S197's!!!!!!!!!

if Saleen blowers were $3300 we would all have one jackass!

haha you took the words out of my mouth

Hey jackass you run a pretty good game talking there...don't talk unless you know about the prices but your mustang probably sucks and is crap good luck riding it on the street...keeping pushing it next to hondas and make yourself feel cool. Later FakerRRR

WIllie Mustangs
07GTKING

ORIGINAL: 07GTKING

Hey jackass you run a pretty good game talking there...don't talk unless you know about the prices but your mustang probably sucks and is crap good luck riding it on the street...keeping pushing it next to hondas and make yourself feel cool. Later FakerRRR

WIllie Mustangs
07GTKING

hahaha obviously your the one who doesn't know the prices since you were talking about a supercharger for the wrong year car plus the way you talk about Underground mustang in all your posts I think your just an employee from there over here to bother us.

sorry, wrong thread! [sm=icon_quiet.gif]

He probably has a 3 tiered wing and a fart can as his mods, and sounds to be about 16yrs old.

99-04? lol