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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 3:54:17 PM   
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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:23:25 PM   
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First of all an SS is not a Z28 w/ a diff hood.


an SS has the LS1 engine in it and will probably beat a stock '05 GT 90% of the time. Now through in a tune and CAI possibly alittle more and you could prob. hang in there or even win.

the Z28 has the LT1 engine which only runs a 14.0 ET.

So there you go.


  the SS has a hood scoupe and some garbage SLP exhaust on it, there is no differnce, they all used the LS1 and in 01 they all used an LS6 intake


I hear that so called garbage is a better suspention and a fiberglass hood. If a M6 Z28 lined up to a A4 SS then yes I would think the Z28 would win. But if both are M6 I would think an SS would edge a Z28 ever soooooooo slightly. 

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:27:32 PM   
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An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1....

The only advantage an SS/WS6 has over a run of the mill Z28/TA is the craptacular catbacks they come with from the factory. 

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:38:48 PM   
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An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1....

The only advantage an SS/WS6 has over a run of the mill Z28/TA is the craptacular catbacks they come with from the factory. 


So you are saying the hood scoupe does nothing to benefit the car at higher speeds? I would have thought the more air induction you have the better the compression.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:43:44 PM   
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Do not the ram air hoods on the WS6 boost 1.5psi at 80mph...or all the claims I've heard and seen of that by companies, dyno shops, and owners totally false?

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:52:46 PM   
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An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1....

The only advantage an SS/WS6 has over a run of the mill Z28/TA is the craptacular catbacks they come with from the factory. 


So you are saying the hood scoupe does nothing to benefit the car at higher speeds? I would have thought the more air induction you have the better the compression.



That is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:55:09 PM   
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An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1....

The only advantage an SS/WS6 has over a run of the mill Z28/TA is the craptacular catbacks they come with from the factory. 


So you are saying the hood scoupe does nothing to benefit the car at higher speeds? I would have thought the more air induction you have the better the compression.



That is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard.


So the air induction is useless on the SS?

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:55:13 PM   
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i had no idea that my hood scoop raised my compression... i should get a bigger scoop, and up my compression some more...

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 4:59:43 PM   
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i had no idea that my hood scoop raised my compression... i should get a bigger scoop, and up my compression some more...


HAHA!

I've seen on LS1tech, where the "ram air" setups add appox 1% more power at speeds over 100mph. 

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:01:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 98LS1

An LS1 is an LS1 is an LS1....

The only advantage an SS/WS6 has over a run of the mill Z28/TA is the craptacular catbacks they come with from the factory. 


So you are saying the hood scoupe does nothing to benefit the car at higher speeds? I would have thought the more air induction you have the better the compression.



That is the most ignorant thing i have ever heard.


So the air induction is useless on the SS?


Yes.  someone had the math for it on ls1tech awhile back, it only starts to have an effect at like 180mph.  so unless youre going 180 in a race, it is useless.  but hey, if youre running a supra, go for it!  To be honest, if youre going 180, youll need FI more than likely, and the scoops wont matter.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:01:47 PM   
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1%..thats what, like 5hp?

honestly, i would imagine that in comparing it to a stock flat hood and a restrictive air intake system, it would make a difference...i know that with my hood, the car likes the cold air, so my induction setup made a bit of a difference...

but i bought pistons to up the compression..little did i know that i could just get a bigger hood scoop....

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:02:43 PM   
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i had no idea that my hood scoop raised my compression... i should get a bigger scoop, and up my compression some more...





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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:08:05 PM   
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Yeah , go ahead and get you laughs.lol
I'll re-phrase it . Doe's the air induction scoupe benefit the SS in any way as far as performance goes? How's that.

I keep trying to convice my friend that there is no difference in performance. He has a 2000 SS. I posted a thread about this same topic on LS1tech a few days ago , and my friends reply was every post that said the Z28/SS was an even race was a Z28 owner. I'm beginning to think there are alot of SS owners out there that think their car is so superior because of the SS badge.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:16:49 PM   
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my car is carbureted (that is like really old fuel injection for those who dont know) and my carb sits right below my hood...for my car to get cold air,it had to run through a system of piping, which builds heat.  with the hood scoop and the box which prevents ANY engine bay air to the carb, it made a difference... but it definately doesnt increase the compression...

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:45:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: REMMustang05

First of all an SS is not a Z28 w/ a diff hood.


an SS has the LS1 engine in it and will probably beat a stock '05 GT 90% of the time. Now through in a tune and CAI possibly alittle more and you could prob. hang in there or even win.

the Z28 has the LT1 engine which only runs a 14.0 ET.

So there you go.

You are never allowed to give F-body info ever again.

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Hmmmm...call me a liar but im pretty sure the SS's(prior to 2001, so it makes a big difference in the year) have a LS6 intake manifold, which would DEFINETLY give it more power than the LS1 intake on the Z28, as i recall its about 25hp.

You're a liar. With the F-bodies, 98-00 = LS1 manifold and 01-02 = LS6 manifold.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:50:11 PM   
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thats ownage.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:55:34 PM   
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An LS6 intake is damn sure not worth 25hp.  MAYBE 7 to the tires on a bolt on car.  without getting too technical, the heads on 01-02 cars are what make them stand out from other years.  241 casting FTW.

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 5:56:11 PM   
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First of all an SS is not a Z28 w/ a diff hood.


an SS has the LS1 engine in it and will probably beat a stock '05 GT 90% of the time. Now through in a tune and CAI possibly alittle more and you could prob. hang in there or even win.

the Z28 has the LT1 engine which only runs a 14.0 ET.

So there you go.

You are never allowed to give F-body info ever again.

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ORIGINAL: BadAssT/A

Hmmmm...call me a liar but im pretty sure the SS's(prior to 2001, so it makes a big difference in the year) have a LS6 intake manifold, which would DEFINETLY give it more power than the LS1 intake on the Z28, as i recall its about 25hp.

You're a liar. With the F-bodies, 98-00 = LS1 manifold and 01-02 = LS6 manifold.


Nice. Couldn't have said it better myself.

*"the Z28 has the LT1 engine which only runs a 14.0 ET"

Gets my vote for post of the year. Everybody should put it in their sig. LOL


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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 6:02:35 PM   
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I love this.  :popcorn:  GM guys arguing with GM guys for once!...all on Mustang Forums!

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RE: 2004 Camaro SS vs. 06 GT - 1/16/2007 6:09:11 PM   
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wow..i didnt even catch the LT1 comment the first time...

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