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8cd03gro
i was under the impression the cammer was rated at 420hp... that motor is far lighter than the 5.4 too. dude ot the wait difference, i beleive the 5.0 would run right with the 5.4 if not faster. i think with the 5.0l cammer and a proper tranny/suspension setup you would run 11's easy. Get some work done, maybe some head work and some nice cams and you'd definately be running some real nice times. the 5.4 is REDICULOUSLY heavy. why do you think ford doesn't use it in grand am or any of their race specific cars? horsepower sells cars, but it doesn't necessarily dictate how well the car performs.I just think if you are gonna do a motor swap, why the hell would you swap to a gt500 motor? in 1-2 years you are gonna be able to get a gt500 for somewhere at least close to msrp. even if it is 5k more than sticker price, you are still talking just over 50k. If you set up your 6 with the 5.4 swap, a proper tranny/suspension setup you are talking the 20k price of the 6, plus at least another 20k and there is no way in hell you are going to be able to sell it for nearly as much as a gt500...most people will not spend nearly what a car is worth when it has a motor swap or something of the sort. and if you got in an accident, all of that would be gone. not covered by insurance. I just think, if you are going to do something crazy like this, do something you can not buy anywhere. Do something past crazy. GO INSANE WITH IT. If you have a ton of extra money and it doesnt bother you to flush all that cash down the drain when you sell the car then do what you want i guess. If i was gonna do it, i'd go with the 5.0l cammer, but i personally wouldn't do it at all.

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i was under the impression the cammer was rated at 420hp

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i beleive the 5.0 would run right with the 5.4 if not faster.

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Get some work done, maybe some head work and some nice cams and you'd definately be running some real nice times. the 5.4 is REDICULOUSLY heavy

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why do you think ford doesn't use it in grand am

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I just think if you are gonna do a motor swap, why the hell would you swap to a gt500 motor? in 1-2 years you are gonna be able to get a gt500 for somewhere at least close to msrp. even if it is 5k more than sticker price, you are still talking just over 50k

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there is no way in hell you are going to be able to sell it for nearly as much as a gt500...most people will not spend nearly what a car is worth when it has a motor swap or something of the sort.

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I just think, if you are going to do something crazy like this, do something you can not buy anywhere.

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Hey, the 6 bang GT version stang is a schueet ride. Don't get me wrong. I own one. An 07.
I don't need a V8 or the extra expense associated with the GT anyway. The 4.0 is plenty of power for a light car like the stang at any rate and it gets better gas mileage.

Yes, you can dual turbocharge a V6 and get 600 RWHP no problemo. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Sure you'd want to beef up the bottom end, port the heads, change the cam etc., improve the suspension etc.
Horse Power costs money. That's all there is to it.

All I am saying 'and I'll down grade a bit here' is at least get yourself a GT and start from there.

By the way, I recently saw a brand spankin new Shelby GT500 out here in Tysons Corner Virginia for a mere $54K.
I could probably drive it off the show room floor for around 49 to 52K.

Wolfey

another person that thinks twin turbocharging a car will give you more horsepower than a single turbo. sure 600rwhp is possible with a 4.0 v6, with thousands and thousands of dollars in upgrade, but "no problemo" gimme a break.

with the stock CR, it would probably take nearly 28psi to hit 600rwhp.

twins dont give you more power necessarily, but with 600rwhp a single is going to be a slower car than a twin. twin vs single with same peak power, the twins win. ever seen the 1krwhp supras with big singles? they still run 10's cause they lag so ****ing much. twins making 600rwhp= almost no lag with huge power. you are going to need a ton of work to make 600rwhp, but then again...the 5.4l costs 14 grand.....

i'd much rather get the 5.0l cammer anyway if i was gonna do a swap. 450hp all motor baby.

twins wont always be quicker than a single. For one, look at our car, peak boost at 3k rpm, i launch higher than that, so where would twins benefit me?

i have 3 friends with single turbo supras running 8s and 9s and another with a single turbo conversion dodge stealth running 10.1 (3900 lb car)

yes the twins spool up quicker, but that wasnt what he was implying, he said twins too make 600rwhp, it is A LOT easier to make a single turbo hit 600rwhp than twins, easier to tune, easier to install, less maintanence, etc.

good rule of thumb is twins for a mean "street before track" machine, and a single for a "track before street" machine.

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Launching at over 3K? That's impressive! I'd seriously love to hear how you're getting that to hook up...

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Hey - I'll give a more "detailed" answer soon but right now I'm a
little strapped for time, so I'll be quick..

First - I'm well aware of the GT500 engine's potential, especially
under more effecient methods of boost delivery. I am actually in the
process of talkin to Kenne Bell because we have a GT500 customer who wants
more power and we've pretty much got him set on the idea of going
twin-screw with his car. (He wants to beat his brothers Ford GT)

First off - have you ever been in a 500-600hp car? Been in a LEGIT
11-second ride?? I'm not talking about the old big-block muscle cars...
yes, they were fast but not nearly as fast as people make them out to be.
On average, the old "musclecars" were mid 13-second rides and only a
HANDFUL were capable of cracking 12's (HIGH 12's at that) in stock form.
So many people don't quite understand just how fast a car that can go
11's @ 117-118mph REALLY is until they get in one and it scares the
living **** out of them.

Before you decide you want to throw together a 750hp 10-second monster,
try and find a few people who have LEGITIMATE mid 11-second rides and
go for a ride with them, or see if they'll even let you drive it! That
will be very helpful when it comes to deciding which direction you take
with the project.

If you're thinking about doing a V8-swap, I think you'd be better off
getting an '03/04 Cobra engine and starting there. They can be had for
much cheaper than a new GT500 engine and are still capable of handling
750-800hp on a daily basis. Plus, they have a factory blower and are
INCREDIBLY easy to modify.

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Not bad!! Sounds nice too - the M90 is the blower that GM has been
using on the Pontiac GTP/SSEI series cars for some time now - it's a pretty
stout unit with very few problems.

The nice thing about roots-style blowers is that they produce *INSTANT*
torque and power, the second that you hit the gas, you're at full
boost. Faster than a turbo, and much faster than a centrifugal supercharger.

The only real downside is that roots-blowers are also the least
effecient compressors available. They create more heat per lb of boost than
anything else on the market, and produce considerably less total power
than a twin-screw, centrifugal, or turbo at the same pressure. A
Twin-screw blower looks a lot like a roots blower, but internally it's a bit
different and is much more effecient than a roots. People running the new
'03/'04 Cobras can switch to a Kenne Bell or Whipple twin-screw and
pick up 80-100 more horsepower and torque AT THE WHEELS at the same boost
levels that they used to run with the roots blower. And the power comes
on almost just as quick, much faster than a centrifugal blower or even
a turbo.

Centrifugal blowers, like the P1-SC you're interested in, are more
effecient than roots - meaning that you'll make much
more power with a Procharger at 8 psi than you will with the M90 at 8
psi. A centrifugal supercharger is essentially a belt-driven
turbocharger compressor. But, engine RPM and blower pulley rpm is what determines
the amount of boost created, so they usually don't come on strong until
just after 4,000 rpm.

Turbos are the be-all, end-all of forced induction when you want to get
the most power out of your boost. Modern kits can be taylored to your
exact setup so that full boost is achieved at, or even under 3,000 rpm -
meaning that you can make the most possible power with virtually zero
lag-time and still maintain excellent street manners. Plus, there's
nothing in the world that sounds as cool as a turbo spooling up.

For reference - lets look at the '03/04 Cobras. It's basically an 8.5:1
compression 4.6 liter engine. 281 cubes - pretty small, when you think
about it. The stock, eaton M112 supercharger will only make effecient
boost up to about 15 psi, and if you have the blower ported, you can
expect to make about 510 rwhp/tq with 15-16 psi and the ported eaton. Lets
say you step up to a Twin-screw - The twin screw makes effecient boost
up to about 23-24 psi. Lets just say you were running 18-19 psi - now
you make about 610 rwhp with only 3 more psi. Now - you step it up one
more notch with a 76mm turbo on that same 281 Cobra engine. 20 psi from
a good turbo will make over 700 rwhp/rwtq with a SAFE, fat tune. That's
incredible when you think about it, and they still spool up quick!

Bottom line, there is no better way to get the most power out of your
combination than with a properly sized turbo setup.

Either way, keep me posted!

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the 5.4 doesn't make 500rwhp stock... not even close. mid 400rwhp at best

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The blown 5.4 is alot heavier than you think. It is flat out an elephant. why do you think the gt500 is so far behind most of the 500 hp cars on the road acceleration wise? its an awesome car, and the price is right, and imo it doesn't matter how you get the speed as long as you get it, but the thing is A COW.

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The 5.0 was just a rough example. even your tech buddy suggested a different route because your idea is in no way cost effective.

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If you went with a 5.4, did all the suspension work to handle the huge weight addition, swapped a tranny and did all the supporting mods, you are basically going to be driving a gt500 and you are gonna have saved, what? 5 grand?

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when you sell that car you are going to lose close to if not ALL of the money you put into it.

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you get with the 5.4. if you seriously are considering making that huge of a jump in cost, why are you even asking us?

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I am just saying i would never do a 5.4 swap for that kinda money.

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you can obviously afford to throw around money like its nobody's businnes,

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the 5.4 doesn't make 500rwhp stock... not even close. mid 400rwhp at best. The blown 5.4 is alot heavier than you think. It is flat out an elephant. why do you think the gt500 is so far behind most of the 500 hp cars on the road acceleration wise? its an awesome car, and the price is right, and imo it doesn't matter how you get the speed as long as you get it, but the thing is A COW. Yea it is an awesome motor, and it does make power more easily than the 5.0, but how far do you plan on going? If you are planning on going that much further than what the stock 5.4 makes, why not get a motor built to your specs from a cheaper v8? All i am saying is, for the cost of the 5.4, and all that you would need to keep it reliable, there are better options. The 5.0 was just a rough example. even your tech buddy suggested a different route because your idea is in no way cost effective. It isn't a "hobby" thing to go the more expensive route just because, it is a stupid thing. Why go a route that is far more expensive in the long run than going a way, putting out close to the same performance for less overall cash, and even more of a crazy uniqueness. If you went with a 5.4, did all the suspension work to handle the huge weight addition, swapped a tranny and did all the supporting mods, you are basically going to be driving a gt500 and you are gonna have saved, what? 5 grand? when you sell that car you are going to lose close to if not ALL of the money you put into it. Why not buy a gt500 and put the damn v6 bumpers on the thing if you want that? what i am saying is, why build something that you could buy already built for close to the same price, when you are going to keep more of your money in the long run if you buy the gt500? Like i said before, if you have a ****load of extra money and you dont know what to do with it, go ahead by all means do this if you want, but there are more cost effective ways to get that kind of power along with the v8 sound and all the other **** you get with the 5.4. if you seriously are considering making that huge of a jump in cost, why are you even asking us? you can obviously afford to throw around money like its nobody's businnes, just do what you want to do, it's your car man. I am just saying i would never do a 5.4 swap for that kinda money.

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the 5.4 doesn't make 500rwhp stock... not even close. mid 400rwhp at best

Just A CAI & Tune it the GT 500 makes 500rwhp & 502rwtq.

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The blown 5.4 is alot heavier than you think. It is flat out an elephant. why do you think the gt500 is so far behind most of the 500 hp cars on the road acceleration wise? its an awesome car, and the price is right, and imo it doesn't matter how you get the speed as long as you get it, but the thing is A COW.

Car went 11.81’s with just a tune CAI & Tune , high 10’s with CAI, Tune, 2.6, exhuast, or/x DR’s and 4.10 gears . LMAO You crack me up 8cd03gro.:)

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The 5.0 was just a rough example. even your tech buddy suggested a different route because your idea is in no way cost effective.

He suggested a 03 Cobra motor because would be cheaper I am waiting pricing from him now, I looked myself at 03 Cobra motors your looking at 7K and that’s used/RB with stock Eaton S/C yea Cheaper but add a Kennie Bell and you at $12K close to the cost of a GT 500 motor. The 03 Cobra with Eaton your limited to 500rwhp stock int, with a Kennie bell/ 600 rwhp and close to the amount $$$ of a brand new ( I like brand new :)) and GT 500 motor has the upgrade option (path) down the road of going with a Kennie Bell and running 726rwhp-810rwhp.

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If you went with a 5.4, did all the suspension work to handle the huge weight addition, swapped a tranny and did all the supporting mods, you are basically going to be driving a gt500 and you are gonna have saved, what? 5 grand?

Right now ballpark without trans ( could get a track trans rated at 800hp $2.5K) this will cost around $20k +/- icluding 8.8 and suspension, take the value of my car now at $16K I am at around $36K. GT 500 goes for around 60K- 70K using 60K plus minus my 36K investment I am saving around $25K minus my 36K from a 70K cost of a GT 500 I am saving $35K.
So your statement I would only save $5k is incorrect..

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when you sell that car you are going to lose close to if not ALL of the money you put into it.

Everyone loses money when they build a car esp if they blow a motor and rebuild it, I really plan on keeping this car for a long time 5-10 years if I do this swap so at 36K (at todays value my is woth 16K +20K swap=36K) I am not worried about resale value. :) Whats a new Mustang GT that you buy today going to be worth in ten years get my drift.

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you get with the 5.4. if you seriously are considering making that huge of a jump in cost, why are you even asking us?

LOL hey dude that is what forums are for sharing info and getting info anyone thinking about doing in a swap maybe info I provide could help.

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I am just saying i would never do a 5.4 swap for that kinda money.

That’s your opinion not mine :)

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you can obviously afford to throw around money like its nobody's businnes,

There are plenty of guys who throw money in their cars Supechargers, turbo, heads, cams some even build up the bottom end of their motors, rear ends, ext mods, tires wheels, I am sure your looking at around $10, $15 $20K for some of these guys also. They are guys at some of our hang outs and guys I know 20K is nothing to drop in a street car.

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8cdo3gro
bro you really need to stop pulling **** out of your ass and trying to turn this into a war. i made an honest mistake thinking the 5.0 cammer made 450 stock, then you pull random **** out and when i question it you just make excuses. you said the 5.4 made 500rwhp. it doesn't, dont talk modded ****. the times you are talking about are on slicks and the "you crack me up part" that was with all the mods you listed and a ported blower. So add another 3-4 grand to that motor for those mods. They put down high 500's at the wheels to make a ten sec run on slicks. Impressive for the price, but not at all for how much power they are putting down because the thing is so god damn heavy. i seriously don't think you realize how much weight is involved here and how much work you will need to compensate for the extra 300+ lbs this motor will bring to the front end. It's not likely that you will be doing the install yourself (not saying you won't cause im not sure, its just unlikely) which will be another couple grand. a gt500 is really supposed to sell for just about 40k, thats why i said wait maybe 6 months to a year and you will be able to get one for that price. If you are doing an engine swap and all the thigns you have pruposed to do it is going to take time anyway, and like i said you are going to lose a ton of money into it (which doesn't seem to bother you at all which is cool cause its ur car, but it is still a valid argument). A gt500 being 5 years old will still probably sell for say 30k if the milage is decent. You will have a VERY hard time selling a 6er with a 5.4 in it built by you and not a proffessional shop for over 20k in 5 years. There are cheaper ways to do this. If this is what you want, and i can see where you would, then go for it, its cool, but i am just saying there are more cost effective ways, and this is not the way i would do it. this started as a friendly discussion about this swap, and then you started throwing in little smart ass remarks and trying to turn this into a battle. I stated my opinion, you stated yours, everything was friendly, but in your last few posts you have just gotten to be more of a deusch bag towards me, im done discussing this with you.

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you crack me up part" that was with all the mods you listed and a ported blower. So add another 3-4 grand to that motor for those mods.

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8cdo3gro
bro you really need to stop pulling **** out of your ass and trying to turn this into a war. i made an honest mistake thinking the 5.0 cammer made 450 stock, then you pull random **** out and when i question it you just make excuses. you said the 5.4 made 500rwhp. it doesn't, dont talk modded ****. the times you are talking about are on slicks and the "you crack me up part" that was with all the mods you listed and a ported blower. So add another 3-4 grand to that motor for those mods. They put down high 500's at the wheels to make a ten sec run on slicks. Impressive for the price, but not at all for how much power they are putting down because the thing is so god damn heavy. i seriously don't think you realize how much weight is involved here and how much work you will need to compensate for the extra 300+ lbs this motor will bring to the front end. It's not likely that you will be doing the install yourself (not saying you won't cause im not sure, its just unlikely) which will be another couple grand. a gt500 is really supposed to sell for just about 40k, thats why i said wait maybe 6 months to a year and you will be able to get one for that price. If you are doing an engine swap and all the thigns you have pruposed to do it is going to take time anyway, and like i said you are going to lose a ton of money into it (which doesn't seem to bother you at all which is cool cause its ur car, but it is still a valid argument). A gt500 being 5 years old will still probably sell for say 30k if the milage is decent. You will have a VERY hard time selling a 6er with a 5.4 in it built by you and not a proffessional shop for over 20k in 5 years. There are cheaper ways to do this. If this is what you want, and i can see where you would, then go for it, its cool, but i am just saying there are more cost effective ways, and this is not the way i would do it. this started as a friendly discussion about this swap, and then you started throwing in little smart ass remarks and trying to turn this into a battle. I stated my opinion, you stated yours, everything was friendly, but in your last few posts you have just gotten to be more of a deusch bag towards me, im done discussing this with you.

Lighten up dude sounds like your breaking into a sweat I am just debating (no war) you and pointing out where I don’t agree with your statements imo. I am just responding to you in the same manner I feel you respond to me. Ok I will just make this one short (avoiding a war/peace :) ) and correct one of your misstatements and a last comment/opinion to you on weight.



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you crack me up part" that was with all the mods you listed and a ported blower. So add another 3-4 grand to that motor for those mods.

I never said they ported the blower on this GT 500, also for the crack me up statement I think you took it the wrong way I can’t it help some things you say I find amusing and funny makes for fun debate with you imo :)


Last comment and opinion
Ocd03gro you keep complaining about the weight yes it is heavier but hey dude high 10’s with a CAI, tune, headers, or/x plus axle back, 2.6 pulley, drag radials 4.10’s is fine with me knowing this car has that capability. I look forward to seeing what this car with run with a Kennie Bell 2.8 since it can run high tens with the Eaton. :)

Look at the Hemi vs a small block Dodge V-8, a Viper motor vs a small bock V-8, a BB Chevy vs a small block V-8 guess what? All day long they are much heavier than their counter part small block motors, this happens all the time they are bigger heavier but make more power get over it. :)

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Look at the Hemi vs a small block Dodge V-8, a Viper motor vs a small bock V-8, a BB Chevy vs a small block V-8 guess what? All day long they are much heavier than their counter part small block motors, this happens all the time they are bigger heavier but make more power get over it. :)

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ocd03gro
the viper is slower than the z06, partly because of its weight difference. Weight matters big time, and although i even agreed with you that the 5.4 will make for a faster car than one with the 5.0l cammer, i don't beleive it will be much, and then you proceeded to say how much the 5.4 makes modded, comparing it to a stock 5.0 which i think is kind of an unfair comparison as you aren't modding the 5.0. General rule of thumb is every 100 pounds is around a tenth lost in the quarter. the 5.4 weighs i think 300 pounds more than the 5.0 from what i've read, but then again i also read that the 5.0 made 450hp, so im not positive, but if it is true, that is a big difference. weight tranfer will be affected, and it will already slow it down a bit, so again i beleive a 5.0 equipped 6er could keep up with the 5.4 and its more cost effective. That's just what i would do, and as i have said, you may want something different and it may be better for you, i have just been making the argument.

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ocd03gro
YOU didn't say it had a ported blower making those runs, EVO did. On the dyno run, it didn't say it, but at the beginning and in their mod list it says they have a ported blower.

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then you proceeded to say how much the 5.4 makes modded, comparing it to a stock 5.0 which i think is kind of an unfair comparison as you aren't modding the 5.0.

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although i even agreed with you that the 5.4 will make for a faster car than one with the 5.0l cammer

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the viper is slower than the z06, partly because of its weight difference. Weight matters big time

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ocd03gro
the viper is slower than the z06, partly because of its weight difference. Weight matters big time, and although i even agreed with you that the 5.4 will make for a faster car than one with the 5.0l cammer, i don't beleive it will be much, and then you proceeded to say how much the 5.4 makes modded, comparing it to a stock 5.0 which i think is kind of an unfair comparison as you aren't modding the 5.0. General rule of thumb is every 100 pounds is around a tenth lost in the quarter. the 5.4 weighs i think 300 pounds more than the 5.0 from what i've read, but then again i also read that the 5.0 made 450hp, so im not positive, but if it is true, that is a big difference. weight tranfer will be affected, and it will already slow it down a bit, so again i beleive a 5.0 equipped 6er could keep up with the 5.4 and its more cost effective. That's just what i would do, and as i have said, you may want something different and it may be better for you, i have just been making the argument.

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ocd03gro
YOU didn't say it had a ported blower making those runs, EVO did. On the dyno run, it didn't say it, but at the beginning and in their mod list it says they have a ported blower.

Ocd03gro my good friend :) on the 9 sec run video I posted it does not say ported blower in their mod (I am not seeing it) list it says stock trans, stock blower, stock motor could you look at the video and tell me where it says ported blower I am not seeing it, does anyone else see it? :)
http://www.evoperform.com/GT500/9.wmv

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then you proceeded to say how much the 5.4 makes modded, comparing it to a stock 5.0 which i think is kind of an unfair comparison as you aren't modding the 5.0.

There you go again a incorrect statement I clearly stated in post #21 even if the Crammer had exhaust, CAI, tune gears that is not going to out run the 5.4 running 10’s. So I did compare the Crammer modded compared to the 5.4.
Come Ocd03gro make sure before you post incorrect statement.

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although i even agreed with you that the 5.4 will make for a faster car than one with the 5.0l cammer

Could you point out where you say you agreed with me the 5.4 would make a faster car I don’’t see it I do see where you said in post # 20 the following quote that in italics "i beleive the 5.0 would run right with the 5.4 if not faster" but not where you ageed the 5.4 would be faster.

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the viper is slower than the z06, partly because of its weight difference. Weight matters big time

Viper weight---- 3,437 lbs---510hp/535 lb-ft---------1/4 mile ET 12.10 manual trans MT
GT 500 Mustang 3,879 lbs---500hp/480 lb-ft---------1/4 mile ET 12.20 manual trans MM&FF

The GT 500 weighs 442 lbs more that the Viper has less HP and torque than the Viper and your looking at only 1/10 of a difference in ET’s where is this big important weight factor I keep reading you speak of? ocd03gro please get over the weight :)

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first of all, again you are posting unfair comparisons. Post times from the same testers and average times, they are more reliable MT ran a 12.8 with the gt500 and most drivers will run high 12's stock. The srt-10 can run 11's with a good driver on stock rubber, it is a faster car without a doubt. Where are you getting your info for how much power the cammer would put down modded? The boss was originally supposed to have the cammer with reworked intake and exhaust putting down 450....with the lesser weight that would easily run with a gt500.... oh and that 9.9 run was with all the mods from before including the ported blower and a 75 shot. it says ported blower in their other videos that were before this run, if you watch the other videos. Oh and if you wanna compare some weight stuff, lets look at it this way. You just posted the best time you could probably find for the gt500 stock including stock tires correct? (not sure, but you probably wont get much faster). Well let's take a look at the z06 shall we? z06 weighs 3130 lbs, makes 505hp at the crank. Ranger from the corvette forums ran an 11.2 bone stock down to the tires. with dr's he ran high 10's. There are videos and more than 3 witnesses to attest to this, 2 of them not even owning chevys. I guess you are right, weight has barely any effect at all

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Where are you getting your info for how much power the cammer would put down modded?

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ORIGINAL: GJP05

Before you choose the 5.4 you should realize it will cost you a lot more then $20K to do the swap. Just about every component of your car will have to be changed. The only thing you will be able to keep will be the body. As far as the weight well that GT500 5.4 weighs more then the GT 5.4. You are talking about iron compared to aluminum plus the size difference and the weight of the S/C. When you add all that up it will be well over 250#'s and it will all be added to the nose. This will shift the weight ratio of your car from 60/40 to close to 75/25.

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I know

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ORIGINAL: GJP05

Before you choose the 5.4 you should realize it will cost you a lot more then $20K to do the swap. Just about every component of your car will have to be changed. The only thing you will be able to keep will be the body. As far as the weight well that GT500 5.4 weighs more then the GT 5.4. You are talking about iron compared to aluminum plus the size difference and the weight of the S/C. When you add all that up it will be well over 250#'s and it will all be added to the nose. This will shift the weight ratio of your car from 60/40 to close to 75/25.

I am waiting for a friend of mine who is a certifed Ford tech to get back to me on this with parts and cost I am just rough estimating (without trans) at cost of 20k plus or minus, when the tech gets back to me I will post everything remember (if its way out there then sure no go) I will get a discount through him on parts and this will also be a side job so I am not paying dealership rates.

I will be upgrading to a 8.8 complete for around $500.00, I will keep the stock trans for now T-5 still it goes out then either beef it for around $800.00, or go to a track trans rated at 800rwhp for around $2-2.5K along with DS, I have a Pony Package similar GT suspension but know I will need the K Frams, springs, radiator, thinking engine management comes with the complete motor package so not sure on this, I already have dual exhaust, but of course would need CAI, need headers, or/x pipe. I know I will need other parts but other than the parts I listed I am not sure what everything else is needed part wise but no big ticket items ($$$) stick out at me that I could think of :). So when he gets back to me I will post everything