Don't forget water injection. Diesels are amazing- you can feed those things anything. My owner's mandual says I can run (drum roll): #1diesel, #2diesel, off-road diesel (higher sulphur), kerosene for short amounts of time (no natural lubricity), and last but not least, up to 10% motor oil mixed in with the above. I believe you can run 10% motor oil with kerosene indefinitely. I'm sure the oil would add tons of carbon buildup, but hey you CAN run it if you want to haha. Also, you can run biodiesel and vegetable oil through diesels. Power adders are plentiful, too: nitrous, propane, and water/methanal injection. Talk about a motor being on drugs haha.
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your all talkin about bashing on ford, ford doesnt make the powerstroke, international makes it. dodge obviously doesnt make the cummins and the duramax was already stated. but yea they all are about the same, personally i would pick the duramax or cummins cause there isnt as much noise from the engine, more noise from the exhaust. most powerstrokes are noisy and sound like crap. the new ones are better though ill agree with that.
you are ass backwards with your statement if you knew anything about the diesels the cummins makes way more noise all around than either duramax or powerstroke ask anyone. But thats a exception to the newest ones which they managed to quiet down alittle bit better by running a cat and what not
ok you can be an ass about it ... and for your information i do know things about diesels many of my friends mod them all the time here. the cummins makes differnent kind of sound they sound healthy the older powerstrokes sounded like crap they didnt sound like they could pull themselves let alone haul, they are better now and cummins sound hella sick strait piped. illl agree the cummins isnt that much quieter but it defintaly sounds better.
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the cummins are by far one of the worst sounding engines because of it being a inline 6 there is more time in between each fire of the piston compared the the v8s in the ford and chevy. the dodges inline 6 seems to be much louder and shakes there trucks up which cant hold up to that for to long. leading to there interior falling apart.
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i guess im just different but i like how it sounds but idk i like all of them just some more, all of the new ones are better and have fixed MOST of the problems
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but there are plenty of darn fast 7000+ pound trucks out there. To run 12's with a crew cab, get a built transmission, TTS Extreme chip, tie rod sleeves, and exhaust. Bam. Thats all you need. Theres even a full street driven truck out there that runs low 10's, on, get this, the stock turbo! Cuts a 1.3x-1.4x 60 foot time.
for 400-500 bucks you can make one run 14 flat.
the ally is a good tranny because the stock hard parts of it are so huge, its only the clutches that need upgrading, whereas the dodge and ford tranny's need billet internals if you want to run decent power. The allison transmission alone weighs around 350 pounds dry, without the torque converter, converter is an extra 78 pounds. IF you built the trans yourself you can have a bulletproof allison for 2700 bucks....yeah its a lot, but you have to consider what is being put through it in a fast truck; 650hp, 1300 ft lbs of torque in a vehicle that weighs 7000+ pounds and huge tires all while towing 16,000+ pounds. Then think of what all the stock engine internals are being put through at 50+ psi of boost! They seem to hold tho; stock rods give way somewhere around 750 rear wheel hp and ~1400 ft lbs of rear wheel torque.
the whole big truck sleeper look thing is fun, and also towing big stuff for work and use it for truck stuff, then putt down the 1/4 mile somewhere in the mid-high 12 second range, maybe faster if I took the toolbox out of the bed, who knows. I have a bigger turbo tho.
asauer you are incorrect; the GM 8.1's and dmax's run an 11.5" ring gear in the rear axle, 9.25" in the front.
also, I have never heard of anyone "twisting a 14 bolt out of a truck". Twisting a driveshaft? Yeah, but these rear axles are huge; no one is breaking them, not including guys eating the gov-locks from doing donuts. Id love to see pics of this twisted off 14 bolt. There are FAR weaker points in the GM drivetrains. The aluminum cased transfer case and the driveshaft?? Those would fail WAYYY before the rear axle would fail IMHO...
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i'm just currious...how did all the diesel guys end up in the mustang forum? lol.. well maybe i will throw a powerstroke in my stang and head over to the diesle forums.
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i'm just currious...how did all the diesel guys end up in the mustang forum? lol.. well maybe i will throw a powerstroke in my stang and head over to the diesle forums.
I was thining the same thing. I owned a diesle for a little bit, but I didn;t know this much
i like the older 7.3 powerstrokes probably best compared to the 6.0 or the duramax or the cummins, altho i like the cummins because of how much more room you have to work and because they are good engines the older ones just make so much racket specially if you have exhaust that it just gets annoying i dont like the tone to them either ive always liked how the v8 diesels sounded better. if you really want to know what a junk diesel with alot of problems is look at the 80s and 90s chevy non turbo and turbo diesels now that was one crappy engine
i have a 97 F250 with 230,000 miles on the 7.3, its got a chip intake and a full straight pipe 4 in exhaust with a dp, on day at a stop light one of them damn r32's pulled up next to me and he heard my turbo and revved his engine, i said are you sure you want to do that with your windows down?, he laughed at me like thinking i had no chance, he changed his mind after his car was filled with black soot, i love the 7.3 Its indestructible, but the trans, well we wont go there.
i'm just currious...how did all the diesel guys end up in the mustang forum? lol.. well maybe i will throw a powerstroke in my stang and head over to the diesle forums.
I was thining the same thing. I owned a diesle for a little bit, but I didn;t know this much
You obviously did not own one long enough to know how to spell DIESEL. If you re read this thread you will find that we are following this thread at http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=118714. As mentioned you will have to get a login to read about it, but a login is free.
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Not bad considering they are outta tractors... and the powerstroke is the most reliable strongest diesel out right now...
really i would have thought that 360hp and 650lbft stock was more than 325/570. and most reliable hahahahhaha, thats a good one, 1-cummins 2-dmax and a far 3rd is the powerjoke, the 7.3s were good, but the 6.0no?
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all you stang owners saying duramax is crap need to recognize.
you will get beat ALL DAY LONG like an ugly wife, cuz your cars suck!!! f
ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
your just jealous of fords because chevy's pos diesels before that were junk just like most of their products today and they had to resort to isuzu of all people to make their new diesel and they are still pretty much bankrupt. not to mention you sound like a kid who just happened to find this thread and sign up just so he can be a internet **** talker since your too insecure to do it in person. so i got a question for you do you feel like a hardass now mr e thug?
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all you stang owners saying duramax is crap need to recognize.
you will get beat ALL DAY LONG like an ugly wife, cuz your cars suck!!! f
ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
your just jealous of fords because chevy's pos diesels before that were junk just like most of their products today and they had to resort to isuzu of all people to make their new diesel and they are still pretty much bankrupt. not to mention you sound like a kid who just happened to find this thread and sign up just so he can be a internet **** talker since your too insecure to do it in person. so i got a question for you do you feel like a hardass now mr e thug?
I'm no kid and I Have a 7000lb.POS Duramax that will hand you your ass.Bring it.Chttp://dieselplace.com/forum/index.php?oome on over,maybe you'll learn something.Sounds like you need it.
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all you stang owners saying duramax is crap need to recognize.
you will get beat ALL DAY LONG like an ugly wife, cuz your cars suck!!! f
ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
your just jealous of fords because chevy's pos diesels before that were junk just like most of their products today and they had to resort to isuzu of all people to make their new diesel and they are still pretty much bankrupt. not to mention you sound like a kid who just happened to find this thread and sign up just so he can be a internet **** talker since your too insecure to do it in person. so i got a question for you do you feel like a hardass now mr e thug?
ummm, ford doesnt make their engine either and it is still a POS. the dmax is an awesome motor with amazing potential. that cant be said about a 6.0L psd. its ok tho at least ford circled all their problems for you guys. oh and by the way mustangs are kid cars. not turbo diesel trucks
i really dont give a damn what you drive..... and ill tell you as well i dont really give a **** how old you are either its obvious that you are immature and have too much time on your hands because you just made another name to post with....i dont think anyone on here gives a damn if your duramax is fast or not. its like that saying goes driving a duramax is like wining the special olympics EVEN IF YOU WIN YOUR STILL RETARDED............
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all you stang owners saying duramax is crap need to recognize.
you will get beat ALL DAY LONG like an ugly wife, cuz your cars suck!!! f
ha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
your just jealous of fords because chevy's pos diesels before that were junk just like most of their products today and they had to resort to isuzu of all people to make their new diesel and they are still pretty much bankrupt. not to mention you sound like a kid who just happened to find this thread and sign up just so he can be a internet **** talker since your too insecure to do it in person. so i got a question for you do you feel like a hardass now mr e thug?
I'm no kid and I Have a 7000lb.POS Duramax that will hand you your ass.Bring it.