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The fastest diesel truck Ive seen was a Chevy with a Duramax that ran 12.8. All the Fords Ive seen at the track have been alot slower than the GM's or Dodges.
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cummins and powerstroke for the win!! Yea, those diesels are gettin pretty crazy. Must be nice to lay down 550 RWHP get 15-20MPG and tow your boat all at the same time
once they get the weight rating down and hp ratings up.. diesels will OWN the automotive industry.
come on... 650+ ft-lbs with a chip? WTF........ and they dont weigh THAT much. you only see them in trucks. wait till cars get the bigass diesels. can anyone say SWAP?!?!
very true, diesels are getting big in the automotive world.
but in a car?? they have before and i have seen a few modded VW's with diesels but there motors are so damn heavy im sure they handle like terds...
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The fastest diesel truck Ive seen was a Chevy with a Duramax that ran 12.8. All the Fords Ive seen at the track have been alot slower than the GM's or Dodges.
a buddy of mine had a 03' duramax regular cab, and he had EVERYTHING done to it, something stupid like 33 psi and NO2 and propane.. EVERYTHING and he ran 11.90's. that truck was carazy! black smoke EVERWHERE!!! lol love it! but then he rolled it... ya not so good
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um about the heavy motors i doubt it i read in CAR magazine about this vw diesel roadster they are testing 0-60 in about 6 seconds and top speed of 150 and its a 1.5 4 cylinder diesel, i bet that thing handles pretty damn good being so light and all and being all wheel drive o and it gets 83mpg no joke
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I work at a truck shop, mostly doing tractor/trailers, box trucks, ect.
I hooked a tractor up to a trailer, and when you hook up, you bump the clutch in first gear just to make sure the 5th wheel locked. Well, my first time, i bumped that clutch a bit harder than i should have, and picked up the front tires. You think diesel pickups have torque, drive a tractor.
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I had a little VW jetta with a little diesel engnine in it. That thing was sweet. Like 9 sec 60' times. We were going to measure the quarter mile, but it was couldy and the sun dial we brought wouldn't work. That thing was a peice of crap. But I drove a 2500 HD going down the highway, I looked down and I was doing like 90 and didn't even notice it. They will roll. We used the same truck to pull down an old barn my grandfather had on his property. It didn't even get to 1500 RPM. Thing was NASTY.
Um, Not to start a war or anything but Powerstroke is anything but reliable at this point. Why do you think the 6.0 only ran from 03-07 model years. Buying one is a crap shoot. Ford has suffered a lot a loss due to buybacks. It was a motor that was rushed to the market and when has problems, dealer techs are left scratching their heads. Something like 33% sold have major issues. BTW, has anyone ever tried even sticking your hand under the hood. At least a person can wrench on a cummins themself at home.
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whats with the hate on ford, the cummins rite now is the best but, next years diesel will kick some ass, however my friend has a powerstroke with just a chip and he and i were cruising at 100 like it was 40. They are awesome, however my friends boss has a 351 w powered 67 mustang with a cam and bigger carb and he blew by us like it was nothing, he was really moving but those diesels are fast
IMO, as far as diesels at least, the Duramax and Cummins are the way to go. I've heard bad things about the 6.0 liter powerstroke (blown head gaskets and such). I hear the 7.3 is good though.
There were some dodge duallies at the track recently running 12s all day.
Duramax is a turd!
+eleventy gabilliontrillion. duramaxs are junk.
Isuzu designed and built the duramx
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Um, Not to start a war or anything but Powerstroke is anything but reliable at this point. Why do you think the 6.0 only ran from 03-07 model years. Buying one is a crap shoot. Ford has suffered a lot a loss due to buybacks. It was a motor that was rushed to the market and when has problems, dealer techs are left scratching their heads. Something like 33% sold have major issues. BTW, has anyone ever tried even sticking your hand under the hood. At least a person can wrench on a cummins themself at home.
BTW thats all bs, the first couple years they were having problems with the fuel system, they have all been sorted out. Ford is going to a 6.4 diesel next year (STILL THE POWERSTROKE NITWIT!) partially because of the new fuel regs (ULTRA LOW SULFUR) and dodge is going up to a 6.7L. The dodge is only gaining like 50 ft lbs and 30 horse while the powerstroke is giong up to like 800 ft lbs and somewhere around 350 horsepower.
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ORIGINAL: primetime5.0 actually dodge's cummins is the best motor on the market..
Not bad considering they are outta tractors... and the powerstroke is the most reliable strongest diesel out right now...
haha not to be a prick and correct EVERYONE...but the 5.9 is out of medium duty pickups. Its the same block but diffrent displacement and cams, fuel system and engine mangement.
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fo sheezzy. they have like 2200 ft lbs of torque off idle
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No hatin'. just statin'. No doubt all three diesels can be made to be insanely fast for 7000#+ vehichles. Just pick your poison and have plenty of cash on hand. There mods do add up, although most are easy to add on. The Cummins just do seem to tolerate heftier gains in power for longer periods, but some people simply don't like the feel and sound of an I6 engine in the first place.
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No need for name calling whoever. Didn't say the powerstoke name was changing, the 6.4 will be a lot different than the 6.0. Not just to satisfy the EPA. And just read a while on dieselstop.com. to see how great to 6.0 is. If someone wants to drop 50k on a new truck and take the chances with a 6.0, go ahead. Lots of people go to Vegas everyday, have a great time, and lose lots of money. It's called gambling.
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No need for name calling whoever. Didn't say the powerstoke name was changing, the 6.4 will be a lot different than the 6.0. Not just to satisfy the EPA. And just read a while on dieselstop.com. to see how great to 6.0 is. If someone wants to drop 50k on a new truck and take the chances with a 6.0, go ahead. Lots of people go to vegas everyday, have a great time, and loose lots of money. It's called gambling.
you cant trust everything you read on the net man
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Actually I am quite sure that the 5.9 was originally in tractors and such equipment. We have a Kobelco trac-hoe and a Komatsu dozer with this engine. And decades back it was found in Olver tractors.
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your all talkin about bashing on ford, ford doesnt make the powerstroke, international makes it. dodge obviously doesnt make the cummins and the duramax was already stated. but yea they all are about the same, personally i would pick the duramax or cummins cause there isnt as much noise from the engine, more noise from the exhaust. most powerstrokes are noisy and sound like crap. the new ones are better though ill agree with that.
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I'll bet you if you go to www.dieselplace.com you will find about 37,000 men and women that drive Chevy Duramax trucks that will argue the point that the dmax sucks. I bet you will find that 65-70% have some kind of mod and of those 65-70%, most of them will kill a mustang pretty easily. I know my 2 have No Problems and mine are prolly the slowest of the modded trucks.
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My dads old truck(got rolled) was a 2005 f 250 with the power stroke crew cab short bed with a 6inch lift and 37 inch tires. He had a magnaflow 4 inch exhaust edge programer and air hog cold air intake. that thing had some serius torque it could smoke the tires in 4hi. Im sure it would have ran low 14s high 13s maybe better.
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