<FONT size=4>I think it is a great idea to bring back the old muscle look i myself love that style</FONT></P>

Hell yeah. Those 05 stangs are gonna look sweet!! But they'll be all over the road. I live in San Antonio Texas and over here, 1 out of 10 cars you see on the roadis a mustang. So i bet when the new ones come out, you will see a lot more of them then ever before, especially the v6's.

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I like the look of the 05 GT......but I am going to wait untill 2006 when all the good mustangs come out....</P>


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2006 mustang line up includes the</P>


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the COBRA with the new supercharged 5.4L putting out 515HP, the BOSS mustang,,,, AND YES FOR ALL YOU RICH FOLK OUT THERE THE SHELBY MUSTANG COBRA 750HP.....NOW THAT IS A GREAT LINE UP OF SHEER POWER</P>

sounds like bs to me. ford will go in debt if they offer all that. sure it sounds cool, but design and prod. costs will skyrocket and then the mustang will join f-bodies in history, as good and fast, buttoo overpriced to sell enough.

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I should have added ...SEE MY POST ON PAGE 11 under the 2005 mustang times thread,,,,I have some round about prices I posted....the 05 mustang will go thru the same transition as the 04 F-150...</P>


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The 2003 F-150 extended cab 4x2 XLT prices $26,500-$30,200</P>


The 2004 F-150 extended cab 4x2 XLT prices $26,750-$30,450</P>


As you can see there is not much difference in price....AND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME GO TO YOUR NEAREST FORD DEALER......</P>

i dont believe you. not on cobras at least.</P>

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Thats fine that you dont believe me....I do have that info from a reliable source....I GUESS YOU ARE THE KIND OF GUY THAT HAS TO SEE IT TO BELIEVE IT.......</P>


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gotta show me too

uhh, you know where believing everything you hear gets you? not really far. a sense of reality is a good tool. get one. thats bs if you think they can offer over 100 more hp for 500 dollars on a whole new chassis and body design with a bigger, so presumably more expensive engine.

The 2005 stang has some nice body lines and the engine compartment looks way clean.

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I should have added ...SEE MY POST ON PAGE 11 under the 2005 mustang times thread,,,,I have some round about prices I posted....the 05 mustang will go thru the same transition as the 04 F-150...</P>


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The 2003 F-150 extended cab 4x2 XLT prices $26,500-$30,200</P>


The 2004 F-150 extended cab 4x2 XLT prices $26,750-$30,450</P>


As you can see there is not much difference in price....AND IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE ME GO TO YOUR NEAREST FORD DEALER......</P>


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Keep in mind that the F-150 is Ford's bread and butter. No other single vehicle by any manufacturer comes close to selling as many as the F-150. They can spread the tooling costs across a much, much larger customer base than they will be able to with the Mustang. The F-150 was also plagued with being the feminine truck since the big three redesigned. Ford wanted and had to do something to change that and come back with a truck that looked 'Ford Tough'</P>

Just some news from FORD (horse's mouth). &lt;just go to there site</P>


wwwsvt ford com / flash / index html &lt;---- "There is no intent for production for the BOSS mustang." "There is no intention of production of the Cobra CJR" &lt;that's the6.1L Cobra R&gt; <IMG src=smileys/smiley6.gif border="0"></P>


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that BOSS or 6.1L would have been great. Still 2 more years for that, they may change their mind. (hey, I can hope can't I?) <IMG src=smileys/smiley4.gif border="0"></P>


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Don't count on it ford is too confused to what they are doing these days took forever to get the t-bird produced for the masses and now they say it will no longer be built. Thats ok it sucks to work on. what a waste of money that went into that project. The new 2004 f150 just worked on one this weeek they are nice but damm the price is up there. The dash looks good I like the chrome gauges.The new boss is just a dream for us mustang lovers ford has lost what it takes to build a car like that for the public

Here is a link with some 2005 Photos. Not sure if it's Photoshop, because if it is they did one hell of a job. Write Opinions</P>


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Of course it is photoshop! Look at the speedometer readings. The tires even look fake! And if you look real close, the carpet is dirty in one of the pics.

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I read in the Dec. 03 Car Craft mag. that ford is building an all new aluminum 3.5L DOHC 24-valve Duratec 35 V-6. Its rumored that it will be installed in Jaguars , F150s, and the base mustang. It said expect high-torque versions for truck use to make 240 hp, while versions tuned for car use could hump out as much as 270 hp. This could result in a V-6 Mustang thats quicker than most of the V-8 Mustangs that have been built since 1964. Looks like i will be putting more hop-ups ons, and if i get beat by a V-6 i will trade it in. </P>

you sure they'd put it in the mustang? that would raise costs. 3.8 probably doesnt cost nothin therefore they can sell base mustangs so cheap, which means they can sell a lot of em

270HP? wow! that would be nice.

the new mustangs have a new style kinda look to them that just arouses me!</P>


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Nope. I personally hate the new stang. Hate it. I've hated every stang since 1993. I really think that "Mustang" was really at its peak during 1964-71 and 1987-93. The Fox Bodys were true power and excellent styling. All this chrome and old time styling is good and all but it really doesn't belong in a mainstream sports car for the 21st century. If it were offered as a serparate "Classic Mustang" model, it would be alright but such a drastic change in styling is definetely not approved by me. I surely won't reccommend the new Mustang to anyone if it isn't changed by production time.

Nope. I personally hate the new stang. Hate it. I've hated every stang since 1993. I really think that "Mustang" was really at its peak during 1964-71 and 1987-93. The Fox Bodys were true power and excellent styling. All this chrome and old time styling is good and all but it really doesn't belong in a mainstream sports car for the 21st century. If it were offered as a serparate "Classic Mustang" model, it would be alright but such a drastic change in styling is definetely not approved by me. I surely won't reccommend the new Mustang to anyone if it isn't changed by production time. </P>


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I completey agree ! I have a 2003GT its a Motherf***ing dog, I loved the classics and am cautiously optimistic for the new 05's.</P>


As you may tell this 03GT has soured my taste for Mustangs, but every car show I go to, the old Stangs get my full attention...not this plastic s**t of today.</P>


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The Fox Bodys were true power and excellent styling. </P>


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True power...what power? A stock 99+ GT 5 speed is enough to wax the Fox Body 5.0's.</P>

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I like the look of the 05 GT......but I am going to wait untill 2006 when all the good mustangs come out....</P>


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2006 mustang line up includes the</P>


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I am waiting for the '05 SVT Cobra as well. I pray, pray, pray that the</P>


front bumper, rear bumper, and interior dash is not like the '05 GT.</P>


If it is the same, then I would be one lost cobra customer, 'cause I don't think I would buy it. The '05 does not look refined enough to be an SVT.</P>


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Is there an SVT wish list site that I can go to?</P>

Well if they keep upbrining back the old styles. Next on the last will be the fox body. I wonder what that might look like.

That will probably be down the road a bit since they just startedbringing backthe original models.</P>


I didn't have time to read through this whole thread but I heard quite a lot of questions concerning the price of the new 'Stangs. I'd just like to say that I did overhear something on the news recently about the base model pony being under $20,000. Supposedly they are trying to get the low-endmodel back to its original status as the affordable sports car. One can only hope...</P>


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There's a post in this forum a little ways down that says Price! That'll give you your answer Tommy. <IMG src=smileys/smiley2.gif border="0">

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I JUST BOUGHT AN 04 GT COUPE...... THE 05 IS JUST PLAIN UGLY.... I WAS HOLDING OUT FOR AN 05 WHEN I FIRST SAW THE CONCEPT CAR...BUT WHEN I GOT MY MOTOR TREND MAGAZINE FORD HAD CHANGED THE HOOD, BUMPERS ETC...IT LOOKS TO PLAIN.... I'M 29 AND FRANKLY I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE "OLD SCHOOL" LOOK THESE LAZY DESIGNERS ARE COMING OUT WITH..... THIS CAR IS MADE FOR PEOPLE OVER 40 YEARS OLD THAT NEED TO RIDE IN A COMFORTABLE CAR AND REMEMBER SEEING THE OLD MUSTANGS THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE NEW ONE RIDING AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS..... </P></FONT></FONT>

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I JUST BOUGHT AN 04 GT COUPE...... THE 05 IS JUST PLAIN UGLY.... I WAS HOLDING OUT FOR AN 05 WHEN I FIRST SAW THE CONCEPT CAR...BUT WHEN I GOT MY MOTOR TREND MAGAZINE FORD HAD CHANGED THE HOOD, BUMPERS ETC...IT LOOKS TO PLAIN.... I'M 29 AND FRANKLY I'M SICK AND TIRED OF THE "OLD SCHOOL" LOOK THESE LAZY DESIGNERS ARE COMING OUT WITH..... THIS CAR IS MADE FOR PEOPLE OVER 40 YEARS OLD THAT NEED TO RIDE IN A COMFORTABLE CAR AND REMEMBER SEEING THE OLD MUSTANGS THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE NEW ONE RIDING AROUND IN A FEW MONTHS..... </P>


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The 2005 looks sweet as far as im concerned,but if i get one i will take the running lights put them together and mount them under the grill somewhere and then i will buy some side louver(scopes) for those mini rear windows on the side.Then she'll look like the old shelbys.</P>

The 2005 looks sweet as far as im concerned,but if i get one i will take the running lights put them together and mount them under the grill somewhere and then i will buy some side louver(scopes) for those mini rear windows on the side.Then she'll look like the old shelbys.</p>

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hey the gt look signifigantly different from the V6. i would attach a pic but i don't know the size limitations

Hey guys, here's a link I found that might interest some of you as far as price and maybe a few pics you haven't seen. I think they definitely need scoops on the quarter windows and some different wheels. A functional shaker hood would be nice as well.</P>


http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/futuremodel.aspx?familyid=91&amp;pictureid=&amp;usage=Imag e&amp;src=future</P>


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it says 3.8 V6but theyre not gonna use that anymore

it says 3.8 V6but theyre not gonna use that anymore </P>


Jug is right, I read somewhere they upped the displacement to 4.0 V6s... weird how the V6 is .6 liters smaller in displacement than the GT V8 motor is.</P>

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ugh. 200hp? they bump up the displacement by .2 and gain, what, 10hp? how much torque are they making? either way, who cares, i heard the 06' cobra was going to be an ohc 5.0? maybe it's just a stupid rumor. i'm kinda looking forward to the new lightining though <IMG src=smileys/smiley9.gif border="0"> <edited><editID>SpeedRicer</editID><editDate>38019.7099305556</editDate></edited>

The 350z is putting out 287 in a 3.5 v6 N/A...Nissan has some massive machines. I know the Skyline has 400hp but I have no idea what engine is in it.<edited><editID>95LT1</editID><editDate>38019.7292592593</editDate></edited>

The Rb26Dett or are you talking about the G35?? I think that has a VQ35 or something like that.