when will you guys know if you have attained the CARB status for the kit? I am moving to CA and at this point its SC or nothing, and I DO NOT want a SC. I really like you kit, but what makes it better than the Hellion, which claims the same numbers, and is $800 less?
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There isn't a current ETA for the CARB EO... I would say we should know within 8-12 months. The kit will not change at all, so if it passes, all prior kits will be exempt as well.
The major difference and what I believe is most important to any FI set up on any car is the tuning... The Hellion kit needs to be tuned, which means it will be up to the end user as to how reliable the kit will be and how much power it will make. Ask anyone in the industry and they will say that the tune makes the car.
1) The Turbonetics kit includes 100% plug n play tuning, just install, update and drive away. NO towing to the DYNO. No hours of costly professional tuning.
2) The Turbonetics kit comes with a Ball Bearing turbocharger (typically $500 - $600 more than the standard bearing) and will typically spool a few hundred RPMs faster.
3) The Turbonetics kit comes with a Spearco Intercooler (the leader in the industry).
4) The Turbonetics kit uses a Welded BOV flange and polished BOV.
5) You also received the 1 year no fault no hassle warranty on the whole kit, not just the turbo.
Don't get me wrong, the Hellion kit looks very nice; I saw it at SEMA this year. But if you want 100% complete kit, then the Turbonetics is the way to go. No to mention the Turbonetics kit can be upgraded to make more power for all of you Horsepower junkies.
Hope that helps.
Jesse
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ORIGINAL: Claytone
Hi Jesse,
when will you guys know if you have attained the CARB status for the kit? I am moving to CA and at this point its SC or nothing, and I DO NOT want a SC. I really like you kit, but what makes it better than the Hellion, which claims the same numbers, and is $800 less?
1. someone mentioned issues with the walbro pump, did that ever get resolved?
2. as far as the cutting of the h-pipe is concerned, where is this done exactly? and will I be losing my muscle car sound with the new reversed y-pipe?
3. when will the kit be availible? and has it been installed yet on any other s197's?
4. as far as install goes, what am I looking at? what needs to be moved? any other cutting besides the h-pipe?
thanks
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I think they said its a bolt on. Second **** anything walbro makes. get the Gt500 fuel upgrade plain and simple.
I just don't understand the plug and play tune not all cars are the same and some are going to have other mods. Your car should always be tuned by a professional.
also the Spearco inter cooler is beastly. The hellion turbo's inter cooler is **** since it has a high air dam chance because the pipes are on the same side.
I think they said its a bolt on. Second **** anything walbro makes. get the Gt500 fuel upgrade plain and simple.
I just don't understand the plug and play tune not all cars are the same and some are going to have other mods. Your car should always be tuned by a professional.
also the Spearco inter cooler is beastly. The hellion turbo's inter cooler is **** since it has a high air dam chance because the pipes are on the same side.
I agree but consider that I can install this kit myself and take it to get tuned vs. paying someone to install or paying to tow it to a tuner. I would still take it to get tuned but a safe caned tune makes life a bit easier IMHO.
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I wouldn't be suprised if Walbro makes the GT500 fuel pump. I thought I read somewhere that they make the Ford GT pump, but only for Ford.
Matt, you can get the hellion turbo kit through brenspeed.com for $5899 which includes a tuner and tunes for 380rwhp @ 5psi all the way up to 500rwhp @ 11psi if you have the balls. They include 39.bs fuel injectors, dual ford GT fuel pumps, colder spark plugs, basically everything you need to make that much power. I'd say the hellion kit from brenspeed is the best bang for you buck if you want to make a lot of power.
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ORIGINAL: Numby
I think they said its a bolt on. Second **** anything walbro makes. get the Gt500 fuel upgrade plain and simple.
I just don't understand the plug and play tune not all cars are the same and some are going to have other mods. Your car should always be tuned by a professional.
also the Spearco inter cooler is beastly. The hellion turbo's inter cooler is **** since it has a high air dam chance because the pipes are on the same side.
I agree but consider that I can install this kit myself and take it to get tuned vs. paying someone to install or paying to tow it to a tuner. I would still take it to get tuned but a safe caned tune makes life a bit easier IMHO.
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1) The walbro pump was a typo, the kit doesn't need a fuel pump as the stock one is good to 500 CHP
2) Cut the exhaust right after the stock cats with enough piping left over to slip the turbo piping on. I do not have the exact measurements yet as the instructions haven't been released. If you check the picture at the top you can see where it is cut from.
3) Jan 07, it has been on the Turbonetics test car for quite a few months now without any issues
4) The exhaust after the CAT is the only cutting, the rest of the kit is plug n play...
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ORIGINAL: Claytone
it does very much, thank you.
few more questions for you:
1. someone mentioned issues with the walbro pump, did that ever get resolved?
2. as far as the cutting of the h-pipe is concerned, where is this done exactly? and will I be losing my muscle car sound with the new reversed y-pipe?
3. when will the kit be availible? and has it been installed yet on any other s197's?
4. as far as install goes, what am I looking at? what needs to be moved? any other cutting besides the h-pipe?
thanks
The Walbro pump is NOT included with the kit, so no worries there.
Turbonetics develops their tunes very conservative which allows room for other mods, however, it is always a smart idea to check the vitals of the car (boost, AFs, timing, knock, etc...) before you assume the install is good to go.
What makes you say that Spearco is beastly? They have been a leader in intercooler development and technology for years.
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ORIGINAL: Numby
I think they said its a bolt on. Second **** anything walbro makes. get the Gt500 fuel upgrade plain and simple.
I just don't understand the plug and play tune not all cars are the same and some are going to have other mods. Your car should always be tuned by a professional.
also the Spearco inter cooler is beastly. The hellion turbo's inter cooler is **** since it has a high air dam chance because the pipes are on the same side.
Just like my response above... Double check the vitals, you should not need any further tuning unless you have added major upgrades.
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ORIGINAL: Numby
I think they said its a bolt on. Second **** anything walbro makes. get the Gt500 fuel upgrade plain and simple.
I just don't understand the plug and play tune not all cars are the same and some are going to have other mods. Your car should always be tuned by a professional.
also the Spearco inter cooler is beastly. The hellion turbo's inter cooler is **** since it has a high air dam chance because the pipes are on the same side.
I agree but consider that I can install this kit myself and take it to get tuned vs. paying someone to install or paying to tow it to a tuner. I would still take it to get tuned but a safe caned tune makes life a bit easier IMHO.
Not that I have head... Sorry.
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ORIGINAL: |UCF|chron
plans for v6 versions? (05+)
And the Turbonetics is $5720, shipped with similiar #s and the other benefits I mentioned a few threads earlier. Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against the Hellion kit. I just feel the Turbonetics kit is a complete solution with quality parts, awesome warranty and a no hassle set up. Which can also be pushed into the 500WHP range.
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I wouldn't be suprised if Walbro makes the GT500 fuel pump. I thought I read somewhere that they make the Ford GT pump, but only for Ford.
Matt, you can get the hellion turbo kit through brenspeed.com for $5899 which includes a tuner and tunes for 380rwhp @ 5psi all the way up to 500rwhp @ 11psi if you have the balls. They include 39.bs fuel injectors, dual ford GT fuel pumps, colder spark plugs, basically everything you need to make that much power. I'd say the hellion kit from brenspeed is the best bang for you buck if you want to make a lot of power.
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ORIGINAL: mattblasi
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ORIGINAL: Numby
I think they said its a bolt on. Second **** anything walbro makes. get the Gt500 fuel upgrade plain and simple.
I just don't understand the plug and play tune not all cars are the same and some are going to have other mods. Your car should always be tuned by a professional.
also the Spearco inter cooler is beastly. The hellion turbo's inter cooler is **** since it has a high air dam chance because the pipes are on the same side.
I agree but consider that I can install this kit myself and take it to get tuned vs. paying someone to install or paying to tow it to a tuner. I would still take it to get tuned but a safe caned tune makes life a bit easier IMHO.
Not that I can afford it at anytime soon, but do have a question for when I start looking. It says it comes with a SCT tune, is that just a downloadable tune and you have to get the SCT programmer seperately, or does it also come with the SCT programmer. This will help me decide in the future what programmer to get. If it comes with it, then I could hold off buying one if I do decide to get this turbo.
The SCT Programmer is not a "1 time use" system... but rather a 1-car use system and if needed, an authorized sct dealer/tuner can further tune off of the Turbonetics program/tune. Out of the box, the end user can only flash the stock ECU with the already installed program. If you want to tune it further, you may
1) take it to sct authorized place 2) purchase the software from sct
Jesse
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ORIGINAL: techmanBDsStang
Not that I can afford it at anytime soon, but do have a question for when I start looking. It says it comes with a SCT tune, is that just a downloadable tune and you have to get the SCT programmer seperately, or does it also come with the SCT programmer. This will help me decide in the future what programmer to get. If it comes with it, then I could hold off buying one if I do decide to get this turbo.
thanks.
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The SCT Programmer is not a "1 time use" system... but rather a 1-car use system and if needed, an authorized sct dealer/tuner can further tune off of the Turbonetics program/tune. Out of the box, the end user can only flash the stock ECU with the already installed program. If you want to tune it further, you may
1) take it to sct authorized place 2) purchase the software from sct
Jesse
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ORIGINAL: techmanBDsStang
Not that I can afford it at anytime soon, but do have a question for when I start looking. It says it comes with a SCT tune, is that just a downloadable tune and you have to get the SCT programmer seperately, or does it also come with the SCT programmer. This will help me decide in the future what programmer to get. If it comes with it, then I could hold off buying one if I do decide to get this turbo.
thanks.
Sorry, maybe my rambling on wasn't clear of what I was trying to ask about. I understand how the tuner works. I was asking if the tuner comes with the kit, or just a tune file and we have to provide our own SCT tuner.
BUT now I went to your site and looks like the description was editted so that answers my question. Last I looked it just said something like comes with SCT Tune and now it says SCT Tuner w/ Turbo Specific program.
Right, sorry I wasn't clear... You get the tuner and the software... Nothing additional to buy, truly plug n play
Jesse
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ORIGINAL: techmanBDsStang
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ORIGINAL: TurboKits.com
The SCT Programmer is not a "1 time use" system... but rather a 1-car use system and if needed, an authorized sct dealer/tuner can further tune off of the Turbonetics program/tune. Out of the box, the end user can only flash the stock ECU with the already installed program. If you want to tune it further, you may
1) take it to sct authorized place 2) purchase the software from sct
Jesse
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ORIGINAL: techmanBDsStang
Not that I can afford it at anytime soon, but do have a question for when I start looking. It says it comes with a SCT tune, is that just a downloadable tune and you have to get the SCT programmer seperately, or does it also come with the SCT programmer. This will help me decide in the future what programmer to get. If it comes with it, then I could hold off buying one if I do decide to get this turbo.
thanks.
Sorry, maybe my rambling on wasn't clear of what I was trying to ask about. I understand how the tuner works. I was asking if the tuner comes with the kit, or just a tune file and we have to provide our own SCT tuner.
BUT now I went to your site and looks like the description was editted so that answers my question. Last I looked it just said something like comes with SCT Tune and now it says SCT Tuner w/ Turbo Specific program.
Anyone thought about what they want to see as a Release Special? I was thinking a boost gauge, turbo timer and shipping in the US for $1.00 additional? I would love people input as to what they would be interested in...
So for us CA guys who have to give up arms and legs for a gallon of unleaded, does this tune require 91 octane or is there a more conservative tune for 87 friendly?
turbo timer, boost guage, free shipping? all sound amazing.
i personally would love to see the SOS new pillar kit, forget the name, but it has three small guages in it. that and the free shipping would pretty much seal the deal for me.
or if you are really feelin generous, how about a fully built race engine so we can up the boost right out of the box? then it would be a true plug and play!!!
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2006 Black Gt, 5spd, steeda ultralite springs, steeda LCA, steeda underdrive pulleys, C&L CAI with SCT-2 tuned by Evo Perf.
oh one more thing, whats the deal with the financing company? got any more details on that? rates, terms, etc.????
and as far as the CARB status goes, if we were to get this kit when it comes out (JAN?) install it, and happen to live in CA, what do we do about ; A. Smoggin it? B. The Fuzz?
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From the looks of the pictures, this kit may be compatable with guys running long tube headers, any thoughts on this. If I can get the velocity of the gasses exiting the motor up, the unit should spool very quickly, and ceramic coated long tubes(no cats obviously) would be the way to do that, which I have.
I also didn't see anything about the y-h pipe situation as your picture shows only one exhaust outlet. I have a feeling that I would have a good muffler shop do a little re work on the exhaust to get the long tubes to work and then back into the pipes.
What would you say is the hp potential of this turbo?
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