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[QUOTE=5.0 guy]
Never lost a race in the snake yet, and nothings garanteed bro, you are way to confident with yourself, that causes lost races. I've seen many cars jump a few car lengths off the line and loose in the end. I let people jump off the line all the time to see what they have just like the 03 STI, and just pass them when I can lay down full throttle. My driving skills are fine, I'm just more realistic than you and don't assume I can win. I'm not sure where we are going with this but whatever, I disagree, a couple car lengths doesn't mean anything till you win. If I ran against your Mach, you would probably be able to get a lead off the line because I have to ride the clutch into mid second, but after that at full boost/throttle I'd still catch up and pass you( that's saying both cars are stock of course). I guess we will never agree on this one bro!Ha,Ha
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Had to do some research, I thought you drove an sti, because I was gonna say that you would not catch back up with me and pass me.lol... If you race against a car that you should be able to beat by three car lengths and you lose, its time to learn more about racing automobiles. Now, not to say that if someone jumped out first before you realized the race was happening you wouldn't lose, because then thats understandable. But if I take someone to the track that can run a 13.7 consistantly(half second behind my time), I know for a fact I will have no problem beating him, and I don't even have to slam the gears. My worst time ever so far in my current stock mach 1 is a 13.5, and I missed third gear, so speak for yourself. GUess you are right though, we won't agree. Gone to Sonic to get some icecream...peace................
[QUOTE=horatio102]Justin, I respectfully must say you don't know what you're talking about.
Subaru engineers (years and years ago) studied what Porsche was doing and learned as much as they could from the engineers at Porsche. But that's as far as their relationship goes. Subaru doesn't buy engines from Porsche.
Subaru engines aren't 'Boxter' engines. They are boxer engines. There's a difference. The boxer designation comes from the fact that it's a flat engine and the pistons move toward and away from eachother like they're boxing.
The current Boxter engines are both 6 cylinders. ALL of the Impreza engines are 4 cylinders, 2.5L NA in the TS/RS/OBS models, 2.0L Turbo in the WRX, and 2.5L Turbo in the STi (North America anyway). The Legacy has the 2.5L NA as well as the 3.0L flat 6, and soon enough (now?) there will be a 2.5L Turbo in the Baja (and it'll float over to the Legacy for 2005 I've heard). The Forester has the 2.5NA and 2.5 Turbo.
Boxter engines also aren't all that powerful when compared to the turbo 4bangers from Subaru.
Ok school's out for now.[/QUOTE]
actually it is a turboed boxter engine so why would you act like you know what your talking about
-sorry i skimmed through your post but you actuually knew what you were talking about
Those Subaru WRX STI’s are pre - 1/13/2004 10:18:21 PM
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[QUOTE=1967stang]Just to let you know the reason I think they are so fast is because the engine that is in them is a "Porsche Boxster" engine. The same exact one. So ya not a lot of peeps can take them.[/QUOTE]
hahahah that's complete and total crap.... They have boxer engines, but it's not a Porsche engine LMAO
You believe everything you hear...don't you? yes? Ok then the 03 Cobra has a supercharged LS1 in it. hahaha
The engine in the STi is a 2.5L EJ25T Flat four, DOHC, 16v it makes 300 hp at 6000 rpm and 300 ft lbs torque at 4000 rpm. It's mated to a 6-speed manual with overdrive which then sends the power through the full-time AWD system which automatically distributes power between front and rear wheels based on traction needs. WRX STi models have a Driver Controlled Center Differential (DCCD) with Automatic Mode. DCCD utilizes a planetary center differential in conjunction with an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch.
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Redneck, I hope you enjoyed your icecream! I understand what you mean by hard facts on a sheet, but these cars in my eyes are most enjoyed when someone you don't know comes out of knowwhere at a light and wants to run with you, maybe even chicks in the car, when you smokem, the feeling is priceless(speaking from personal experience of course) The track to me is great place for tuning and tweaking for those nights at the stoplight or leagal competition such as a race/show. Oh yeah, no I'm not an STi owner, I have two black Mustang convertibles and 0' import cars. My Cobra is lightly modified to put me somewhere in the 11's and the 5.0 is under a full resto but was putting out 315 to the wheels when I drove her last. I like the mach1's, they have alot of potential!, good luck with her!
[QUOTE=1967stang]Just to let you know the reason I think they are so fast is because the engine that is in them is a "Porsche Boxster" engine. The same exact one. So ya not a lot of peeps can take them.[/QUOTE]
hahahah that's complete and total crap.... They have boxer engines, but it's not a Porsche engine LMAO
You believe everything you hear...don't you? yes? Ok then the 03 Cobra has a supercharged LS1 in it. hahaha
The engine in the STi is a 2.5L EJ25T Flat four, DOHC, 16v it makes 300 hp at 6000 rpm and 300 ft lbs torque at 4000 rpm. It's mated to a 6-speed manual with overdrive which then sends the power through the full-time AWD system which automatically distributes power between front and rear wheels based on traction needs. WRX STi models have a Driver Controlled Center Differential (DCCD) with Automatic Mode. DCCD utilizes a planetary center differential in conjunction with an electronically managed continuously variable transfer clutch.
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My fiance owns a 2004 STI, stock he ran at 13.4. He just put on turbo back exhuast, blow off valve, fuel cut defender, and a boost controller on it. Stock the STI has about 220 horses at the wheels. We dyno'd it after the mods and he pulled a 280 at the wheels, mind you thats to all four wheels, unlike my stang that only puts it to the rear. We are running it this weekend so I know he will get an awesome time. I actually like driving it, it has a different pull then the stang. But at least my car is still faster and I have 150 horses over him. He still gets me in my 60 foot though, damn 4 wheel drive!!!
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What planet are you from? that car can not beet an 03 cobra, definately out of the hole, but not in a quarter. You must be one of those Hotrod magazine readers that beleives a 4,500rpm clutch dump in an STi and smoking the tires sideways in a Cobra is a confident test, not in mine! Those are nice cars, but they are not drag racers, they should stick to the back Colorado roads or on a ralley track. 5.0 guy38000.5612268519
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I said stock for stock, that means no slicks, the cobra can't hook like all wheel drive can, yeah if the cobra put slicks on it can beat it. Like I said stock for stock. Oh and the STI doesn't dump the clutch at 4500 it dumps it between 5500 and 6000. I do own a bad ass stang but we also own a 2004 STI so I know what I am talking about when it comes to these cars cuz i have raced it on the street and track. Just defending my other half.
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I see where you are comming from, but the cobra doesn't need slicks to have traction, a little clutch riding out of the hole and the car has 0' wheel spin, with the mods I have now, it's a different story(a lot more clutch riding and drag radials) Also, I think you guys are nuts dumping your clutch at 5-6,000rpms! I was making fun of the 4,500, but 6,500, thats nuts! What kind of modded Mustang do you have, I'm telling you that I've run stock for stock with 03 STi's and they couldn't stay with me after mid second gear, out of the hole only gives them a smal lead for a very small amount of time. The STi is much lighter, but also lacks about 60-80 rwh from the cobra. I do lke the STi though, I wish my wife would buy one for her personal toy, but she wants a CLK AMG, that car will take my Cobra and my 5.0 bone stock!
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The rev limit is 7100. There is a guy here in Phoenix that shifts at 8700, those trannys are made for that plus unlike my five speed its a six speed and can handle that. Subaru spent 8 grand just on the sti tranny, that is what the weak link in the wrx was. The wrx and sti are night and day. I don't feel like typing what my stang has so if you just go to the new member area and look under "New From AZ" I have most of it listed. what we shift at and red line at in our fords and completly different in the STI's, trust me it took me a while to get used to driving it.
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why is everyon arguing with hotrod girl. no need to be so arrogant. so what the sti can beat the cobra. i've seen it done. someone has to win a race. it doesnt matter that i cant beat half the people here either. read hot rod (domestic) mag.
it wasnt only the drag racing. the car is all around better. who cares? if you dont own an 03 cobra shut up.
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Okay...Let touch on you calling me ignorant. First off, I do know about AWD turbo. If you'll look back and see, I have owned a 3000GT VR4, so perhaps I know what you're talking about coming out of the hole.
However...For those of you that don't know me, I don't believe anything until I see numbers. So therefore I have done the work for you and found the articles with the proof. This is direct from Road and Track.
COBRA 13.3
13.3 @ 108.1 MPH.
STI
13.4 @ 104.6 MPH.
They also said the Cobra smoked the tires into third gear.
I never said that the STI wasn't an amazing car. But the numbers don't lie.
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[QUOTE=HotRodGirl]
I said stock for stock, that means no slicks, the cobra can't hook like all wheel drive can, yeah if the cobra put slicks on it can beat it. Like I said stock for stock. Oh and the STI doesn't dump the clutch at 4500 it dumps it between 5500 and 6000. I do own a bad ass stang but we also own a 2004 STI so I know what I am talking about when it comes to these cars cuz i have raced it on the street and track. Just defending my other half.
And when you race...WHO JUST DUMPS THE CLUTCH AT REDLINE?
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Sidewayz, lets just leave this one alone, it's just a bunch of chicks arguing about something they are trying to look knowledgable about! That's neat that the STI has more power per litre, but the Cobra still has four more litres to add to the total power. Once you leave the line and have traction, power and torque is what's important, I own an 03 cobra convertible and a 5.0 convertible, and after running with the new STI I think the 5.0 is the more fair vehicle to race an STi, everytime I shift into second, I walked on them, especially before all my mods, now it's just a joke even talking about them! They are nice cars, but not what you are dreaming they are! I'll be in Pheonix in March with my Cobra, I'll run against your STi stock , or with my new Kenne Bell supercharger. I'm telling you though, I've run with plenty different STi's up here in Colorado where they were designed to drive, and they can't come close, that's why I'm so confident to say this.
Those Subaru WRX STI’s are pre - 1/14/2004 4:27:34 PM
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[QUOTE=sidewayz4.6]
Okay...Let touch on you calling me ignorant. First off, I do know about AWD turbo. If you'll look back and see, I have owned a 3000GT VR4, so perhaps I know what you're talking about coming out of the hole.
However...For those of you that don't know me, I don't believe anything until I see numbers. So therefore I have done the work for you and found the articles with the proof. This is direct from Road and Track.
COBRA 13.3
13.3 @ 108.1 MPH.
STI
13.4 @ 104.6 MPH.
They also said the Cobra smoked the tires into third gear.
I never said that the STI wasn't an amazing car. But the numbers don't lie.
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Those numbers make the cobra look pathetically slow.
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Well this is HOTRODGIRL's fiance. I'm the owner of the STi. I'm glad you will be in Phoenix in March and yes I will run you. After I'm through wiping the floor with you, I'll let my girl just utterly embarrass you with her stang. I dont care what you put on your car, my fiance will make you look like a fool. And just for the record my STi aint stock anymore so bring it on. You choose, Speedworld or Firebird, either one you will lose at.
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