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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 1/30/2007 11:03:03 AM   
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Vic... I was going to wait for the TSB to release, but my dealership was so close and so determined to seal any and all possible leaks, that I just let them keep trying. The 4th visit "fix" was very similar to some of the proposed TSB approach. But if you haven't started the process of dealership visits on the issue, then by all means stand by until the official TSB releases.

I've had a 2nd "mother nature test" this past weekend. Strong rain, driving in it and parking, etc. for 2-3 hours. Definitely would've caused the leak, but bone DRY! Still want a 3rd, solid test, but it really might be sealed!

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 1/31/2007 1:25:51 AM   
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Good! Here's hoping.....

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/19/2007 12:34:29 PM   
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My '06 is leaking in the passenger side as well. They said they found the leak and fixed it. A few weeks later it was worse so they 'fixed' it and replaced the carpeting. It's leaking again and they say that they have to fix it 3 times and then have it leak again for the 4th time before an engineer from Ford will come look at it and then they will 'talk' about replacing the car. They said the  second leak  was in the firewall behind the engine and the passenger side door. I  think I'm getting raked thru the coals. I'm going to Ford tonight to talk to the General Manager. Beware a woman hell bent and posessed.  

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/19/2007 12:48:03 PM   
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Best of luck mustanglissy! Mine took 4 visits to fix. I'm reasonably sure that mine had multiple entry points. I have had 2-3 pretty good "mother nature" test to assure me that it is now finally fixed..... but I am still skeptical until I go through a near torrential rain as a final test.

At any rate, yours (as well as many others) may very well be a case of multiple entry points. If they keep nailing them shut, eventualy they should have them all. Sloppy I know.

What I wonder is.... if there are more than one entry points involved, why does it seem that only one entry point at a time gets discovered and fixed? Why aren't they all seen during the leak testing?


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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/19/2007 1:26:47 PM   
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'07 checking in.

I have not noticed any leaks. It's raining right now and I'll go check in a little while and post.

'07s please post. Thanks.

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/19/2007 8:15:16 PM   
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Just returned from a 20-mile round trip in the pouring rain and no leaks that I can tell.

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/24/2007 10:06:26 PM   
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Just picked up my 06  up from the dealer today after the 3rd attempt to fix the water leak on the passenger side. Got it home, 12 miles from dealer, and smoke was pouring out of the engine. Tow truck driver said it looks like the heater coil let go and maybe that is why water is pouring in. To tell you the truth , I know nothing about cars but I know that I've had it up to my antenna with the radio eating my cd and having to get it replaced, three times at the dealer for a huge leak , and now a smoking engine.

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/25/2007 9:32:10 AM   
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I'm going to watch the Weather Channel and go for a ride,
My '06 is a garage queen but I'll be damned if we should have to go through this.
Florida has "Lemon Laws" or I'll call News 13 "On your side" and take them to
the dealership to interview the service manager.
Big talk when I would rather do it myself.....................

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/25/2007 11:09:16 PM   
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Just a quick update (I don't dare post on the "SERIOUS..." thread, as I am sure people LOVE browsing through 15 pages) on my leak situation:

Last Friday the carpet got replaced, however, no one at the dealership bothered to replace or dry out the foam/pad piece coming from the cowl while there were in there, so when I got the car back it had nice new carpet, resting on a damp piece of padding. Anyway, after much discussion with the service manager and tech, I finally took it home, as I was assured it would dry out on it's own. Well, Thursday night it rained (not even hard, but a little bit), and guess who's new carpet is wet(ter)? Once agian, I can still see droplets of water coming down the frame, about a foot and a half up from the fuse box.

That makes 6 times at the dealer (they were also supposed to re-test this time....right) Called a lawyer on Friday...I'm out of Lemon Law territory on mileage (got 20k on it now), but I've still got the Magnuson-Moss Act on my side. Lawyer seems confident...we'll see.

What a PITA.

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/26/2007 12:11:42 AM   
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hey....
i just found a slightly damp carpet, and musty smelling area down in the panel on the passenger side. I saw that foam that was put over the computer bow...is that fords "fix"?
I do drive in heavy rains, and do not know what the extent of the leaks are just yet.
I have an '07 gt

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/26/2007 10:32:52 AM   
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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 2/27/2007 8:31:37 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Bruiser Stang

hey....
i just found a slightly damp carpet, and musty smelling area down in the panel on the passenger side. I saw that foam that was put over the computer bow...is that fords "fix"?
I do drive in heavy rains, and do not know what the extent of the leaks are just yet.
I have an '07 gt


Uh-oh....is it an early '07? I was under the impression that the '07s after a certain date were not having this problem. Sorry to hear you're having this issue as well

Please, please, please go vote here. As you will see in the poll, there's only been 1 person so far with any problems with the '07s after that "magic" date. Once again, I urge everyone to feel behind the passenger access panel in the padding after a rainy day/drive or car wash.

Good luck...you've got a long road ahead of you as far as getting this resolved...

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/9/2007 8:18:06 PM   
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Update. After the 4th water leak the Engineers from Ford ( I insisted they take a look at it). Here is what they say needed replacing- Verbatim from Invoice
"Cause:11108 CK water leak c-s water running down pass kick panel found water leaking from hole for main wiring harness above junction box pass SI. 69000A Door and Window- wind noise/water leaks. Diagnosis-L
Water leaking from hole for main wiring harness above junction box pass side found where it was leaking from by taking out carpet and taking off right front fender. upon further investigation found water leaking from cowel pin seat had to install new right front cowel pin slots ced seats with clear silicone. reinstalled cowel and water tested again leak had stopped. after water test test drove vehicle and found another area where water was leaking from. found a lot of water running between door and rocker panel and was not draining out. had to order door weather stripping, window weather stripping new pass side cowel and cowel pins, hood padding,weather strip for pass mirror new door panel moisture pad and retainers for pass and driver door installed all new parts and water tested agin no leaks and also road tested. found no leaks after road test. reinstalled all panels carpet and seats. vehicle would only leak if vehicle was moving and when applying brakes. pulled pass door panel off and ck how water was running in behind door panel and to see what else was happening.
Hope this is helpful!!! Keep your fingers crossed!! 

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 12:18:46 AM   
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Does anybody know if Ford has issued the water leak TSB yet?

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 9:41:02 AM   
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Still waiting!

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 10:18:40 AM   
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Just a warning to everyone... All this "testing" could equate to accidents and the like... I have and 05 GT, manufactured June of 05, I took it for a test drive in torrential rain the other day... I went on the freeway, through residential areas, hit puddles 6 inches deep doing 25+ mph. I even parked it facing uphill for a few hours, no leak. Im still not convinced that I don't have a leak, but i am hoping I am one of the lucky ones (my 06 v6 didnt leak either) Anyways, looking back, i was getting a little crazy on wet roads looking for a problem that may not exist... Just wanted to say be careful whilst testing this problem... id hate to read about someone testing their car on a rainy day and smashing into a light pole or another vehicle... a wet stang is better than a 28k dollar paper weight...

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 10:36:34 AM   
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No leaks on my 07. And I've been in downpours. They must have done a fix for the 07 year.

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 10:47:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mustanglissy

Update. After the 4th water leak the Engineers from Ford ( I insisted they take a look at it). Here is what they say needed replacing- Verbatim from Invoice
"Cause:11108 CK water leak c-s water running down pass kick panel found water leaking from hole for main wiring harness above junction box pass SI. 69000A Door and Window- wind noise/water leaks. Diagnosis-L
Water leaking from hole for main wiring harness above junction box pass side found where it was leaking from by taking out carpet and taking off right front fender. upon further investigation found water leaking from cowel pin seat had to install new right front cowel pin slots ced seats with clear silicone. reinstalled cowel and water tested again leak had stopped. after water test test drove vehicle and found another area where water was leaking from. found a lot of water running between door and rocker panel and was not draining out. had to order door weather stripping, window weather stripping new pass side cowel and cowel pins, hood padding,weather strip for pass mirror new door panel moisture pad and retainers for pass and driver door installed all new parts and water tested agin no leaks and also road tested. found no leaks after road test. reinstalled all panels carpet and seats. vehicle would only leak if vehicle was moving and when applying brakes. pulled pass door panel off and ck how water was running in behind door panel and to see what else was happening.
Hope this is helpful!!! Keep your fingers crossed!! 


To think or expect a new vehicle to require all of this work simply to make it watertight is TOTAL B/S.  .

I think it also speaks to Ford's delay in putting out a TSB on this.  We have now heard time and again that the comprehensive way to fix the problem begins with taking the right front fender off the vehicle (hood first of course).  I guessing that all-in, the fix must take 6 to 8 labor hours minimum.  That's costly and it is no wonder why Ford has and continues to remain in a state of denial about this.

And oh yeah.  Who here believes any Ford dealer can take the hood and right front fender off of your vehicle - fix whatever - and then reassemble the vehicle back to factory condition with no scratches or shortcuts taken?  Who believes that?  Any of the Ford employees / engineers?  What a joke.

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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 3:08:23 PM   
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RE: MUST READ. leak problem - 3/13/2007 3:20:57 PM   
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No new leaks as of yet. My suggestion, if you have had this fixed numerous times like I have and is still under warranty, is to call Ford and make a complaint. They have kissed my arse since I called them.They had the engineers from the Mustang Plant troubleshoot and it was fixed within a week. I know it is small but they are reimbursing me one months car payment for my 'troubles'. It's going to rain this week. Wish me luck.

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