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hey Si. you said the b18c5(type r motor) is the king of the Honda motors......why not the H22.......isnt Steph running the h22 turboed and all that good sh!t ?? i mean, an h22 in a civic, modded, is pretty damn quick if not fast. i just want another Honda so i can do what i was gonna do w/ my lx but, im not starting anything in here. sh!ts too deep already. haha and didnt Lude say his car was a civic with a lude motor........or was he just "saying" that a civic with a lude motor blah blah blah ??
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RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 9/2/2004 12:28:16 PM
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Well, the H22 is better power wise, but it's also heavier & it's not a direct bolt in into a Civic. I should have said the B18c5 ITR motor is the king of the US market B series motors.
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the h22 is around 40-60 lbs heavier than a b16 swap and not much more than a b18. the difference is suspension geometry and power delivery. the heavy understeer will come from an earlier powerband in the lightweight honda chassis. the kid i sold my civic to has an h22 in there and can run a low 8 in the 1/8th. the b18 is the king of honda motors due to the parts interchangability with the b16 and the swell in displacement. b18c5 or b16b for me.
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Since I havent been on here to watch the thread I am gonn back up a tad.
FI to run 12's? Must suck. How does a TT 482ci non intercooled off the shelf aftermarket engine making 2880 hp and 2100ftlbs sound? Yeah it does run 44psi and a max of 52psi. Max RPM is 8200 and the dyno couldnt hold it down so the readings might be a bit under what its actually making. That is a conservative tune sa well.
I could duplicate it for under $20k really easy. I just dont have a car I can put that kinda power in. It really needs a tube frame.
Want a link? I can provide. ps is not a Chevy either...
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I didnt force anyone to buy half an engine, or in the case of a Honda, 1/4 of an engine...
Sorry this thread is getting a little strange... GRN just take ur money you gonna use to purchase this Honda etc and fix your mustang bro. Unless you just gotta have Honda. Tell me you not giving up the stang to get a honda to get HP? Cause your going backwards bro.Nothing against WRX and Si cause i like them alot and keep up us up to date on overseas cars but just fix the stang up,you already own it .And i tell you what if you do go Honda lol sale me your LX so i can fix it to blow buy your honda. HEHEHE .. Just let me know i can make room for another mustang in my yard.On a serious note thought whats wrong with your LX? You need help or advice? Im not tying to be a jerk just really cerious what going on.
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RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 9/3/2004 11:51:26 AM
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Since I havent been on here to watch the thread I am gonn back up a tad.
FI to run 12's? Must suck. How does a TT 482ci non intercooled off the shelf aftermarket engine making 2880 hp and 2100ftlbs sound? Yeah it does run 44psi and a max of 52psi. Max RPM is 8200 and the dyno couldnt hold it down so the readings might be a bit under what its actually making. That is a conservative tune sa well.
I could duplicate it for under $20k really easy. I just dont have a car I can put that kinda power in. It really needs a tube frame.
Want a link? I can provide. ps is not a Chevy either...
who cares about big TTs this and that? Hello understeer!! Not Everyone is into cars just for the straightaway. I'd rather like my car to be able to carve corners on the back road without ending up in a ditch for oversteering from having a 3000 lb engine under my hood.
For the cost of a 482 TT motor I could have one hell of a street terror in a B18 and still be able to out corner you.
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3000 hp isnt really a corner car now is it? Once again the I can come up with something better than that takes over. lol. It weighs about the same as my completely iron engine fully dressed.
If you want to do some raod course work, well I can hook that up too, you wont gain enough in the corners to make up for the straights because I can build a car to turn just as well as go fast in a straight line. I cant really rag on ya too much about not having done it yet Si, cuz you are still young and I am almost twice your age. I have had more time to do things. Go ahead and build your Honda and I will pull out an old beat up TA throw about $4k at it, and you will be wonderin why you cant catch up to it.
Still I havent seen many all mighty Supra engines puttin down that kinda power, oh wait thats right they arent 8L are they? hhhmmmm....
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supra do have very strong internals from the factory. but isn't that the way it should be for a factory f/i car? does the cobra have stronger internals than the gt? just wondering since it comes with the charger. and mysterious i understand what your saying, a larger displacement engine should always have more potential than a smaller engine.
and iwrxit you hear about the 9 sec street driven supra in phoenix?
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RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 9/3/2004 9:10:42 PM
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3000 hp isnt really a corner car now is it? Once again the I can come up with something better than that takes over. lol. It weighs about the same as my completely iron engine fully dressed.
If you want to do some raod course work, well I can hook that up too, you wont gain enough in the corners to make up for the straights because I can build a car to turn just as well as go fast in a straight line. I cant really rag on ya too much about not having done it yet Si, cuz you are still young and I am almost twice your age. I have had more time to do things. Go ahead and build your Honda and I will pull out an old beat up TA throw about $4k at it, and you will be wonderin why you cant catch up to it.
Still I havent seen many all mighty Supra engines puttin down that kinda power, oh wait thats right they arent 8L are they? hhhmmmm....
I don't care about catching up to a gas hog. While you're sitting at the gas pump filling your 20 gallon tank up with that crisp 100 dollar bill I'll still be going down the highway on my merry way making 30 mpg easy at 100 mph.
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Si ya think that would be the only car I have? Who would daily drive a 2khp car? Especially one on methanol? Dont let the I cant compete with it ricer feeling out. Its okay if you dont have a car that makes that much power, I just like that it was done with something other than a Chevy or Ford. No it wasnt an import either...lol.
Your car doesnt have to be better at anything. I dont even own that engine and I cant afford it yet either. But its nice to know I could do it and dream about it. Untill then keep your car payment and your timed witha calandar ets and i will eat a bit more gas and run faster and also spend less per month on my car. :)
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RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 9/7/2004 12:19:38 PM
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here comes si calling upon irrelevant information once he doesnt have anything to say
Here comes emptyevergreen with more inane posts on a topic that should just die off because it's a never ending dead heat. Seriously, you have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
However, I don't see how bringing up gas mileage and handling is irrelevent seeing as thats what sport compacts are built for. I never said my car was the fastest, or the best. I just said that it can compete with anything. The fun thing here is, your mega hp car isn't your "daily driver" is it even street legal Mys?
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but, im not starting anything in here. sh!ts too deep already. haha and didnt Lude say his car was a civic with a lude motor........or was he just "saying" that a civic with a lude motor blah blah blah ??
