RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 8/31/2004 12:33:35 AM
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Anyway... I didn't say anything stupid, I just said that you're spayshul because you whooped up on a slow car with your big bad V8 and then bragged on it. whippity doo daa....
*clears throat!*
nice exclamation... had to make sure we got the point of your clearing your throat.
How is that defending the moron in the hatch? That has nothing to do with defending him, that has to do with making fun of the guy bragging about beating up on a hatch just because he wanted to.
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speaking of ricers with fart cans.. don't you love how when you blow them away right off and then just shut down cause it isn't much of a race, that they just continue to floor it to zoom past you? i guess it makes them feel as though they've actually won or accomplished something. i prefer not to really race anyone the way it is (not until i get a few decent mods at least), especially ricers. a lot of the time i'm just driving and getting up to the speed limit decently quick and then i look over a few seconds later (after they've finally caught up) and see/hear a bumble bee ricer smiling & laughing as they pass me.
anyone living in NOVA can vouch for me there. this place is filled with asian cuisine with coffee cans.
Anyway... I didn't say anything stupid, I just said that you're spayshul because you whooped up on a slow car with your big bad V8 and then bragged on it. whippity doo daa....
*clears throat!*
nice exclamation... had to make sure we got the point of your clearing your throat.
How is that defending the moron in the hatch? That has nothing to do with defending him, that has to do with making fun of the guy bragging about beating up on a hatch just because he wanted to.
Come on now, Si... I been here long enough to know how everyone works. It just happens that when a kill story is posted about a rice burner you get all defensive and say we shouldnt pick on "smaller cars" so on and so forth. I mean I dont really care to tell you the truth. If I were on a Lamborghini website and some guy said he whooped up on a Mustang I would say the same thing you are saying. LOL But these guys in rice go out looking to race there 1.8L with fart cans. So obvisously they are in the wrong. LOL
No problems... just explaining my opinion.
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this should probably end now
Who died and made you god? Its a simple converstaion. It happens all the time. Relax, bud! LOL
RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 8/31/2004 11:44:36 AM
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whoops forgot to put a comma this is what i ment to say ....obviously slammed lude, the guy in the hatch.......etc sorry
Actually he's not. a prelude is not a civic hatch, didn't I already explain this once??? Christ, do any of you actually pay attention?
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Come on now, Si... I been here long enough to know how everyone works. It just happens that when a kill story is posted about a rice burner you get all defensive and say we shouldnt pick on "smaller cars" so on and so forth. I mean I dont really care to tell you the truth. If I were on a Lamborghini website and some guy said he whooped up on a Mustang I would say the same thing you are saying. LOL But these guys in rice go out looking to race there 1.8L with fart cans. So obvisously they are in the wrong. LOL
No problems... just explaining my opinion.
Maybe I do get a little defensive, but in this instance I was in no way defending the little homo in his hatch. All I ever did was make fun of the guy with a 98 GT flipping uturns to catch a race with a car. You act like the civics are the only people who do stupid **** to catch a race, well flipping a uturn is pretty stupid in and of itself. You don't know me, and you don't know what I'm thinking so stop pretending you know everything jd and let it go. For someone who doesn't care, you sure helped to whore out this last page.
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i dont think its really defensive. on the wrx site's, if i went around saying i whooped on some civic people would give me a hard time too. no one really cares if you beat hondas, just like no one cares if you lose to one. if i were to post that i got owned by a civic some stock 93 GT guy would still say the car is worthless. ignorance is bliss.
i dont think its really defensive. on the wrx site's, if i went around saying i whooped on some civic people would give me a hard time too. no one really cares if you beat hondas, just like no one cares if you lose to one. if i were to post that i got owned by a civic some stock 93 GT guy would still say the car is worthless. ignorance is bliss.
Thank you.
I never said anythinh about Civics, Si. I dont care what it is... it could be anything with a honda, mitsubishi or any other type of rice and if its getting raced then obvisously its a dumbass doing it.
And yes... I have been here long enough to know that YOU defend them all the time. But maybe you wasnt in this case. No hard feelings.
You know the other day i was talking with a friend and he thinks Hondas are the best thing since fried rice and says they last longer then Domestic cars. Well way i see it is Back in the early 90s and 80s Honda guys wasnt trying to race. Now since that Fast N Furious came out. Since that movie you see Hondas trying to race everywhere. Back in th 90s and 80s a Honda would last longer cause most people bought them to have a nice ride with good gas mileage , NOT to DRAG race with. So being that kids and adults drive them like Nascars they gonna break. But when i look on the streets i dont see many early model hondas anymore there are a few but i see tons of old fords and chevys everywhere. See when you purchase a mustang or LS1 you know its gonna take a pounding and if it makes it to 200,000 miles before overhaul you a lucky man.Example when some of you bought a used mustang 5.0 , you knew it was raced and abused before laying ur eyes on it..RIGHT? Yea!! So what im getting at is back when everyone drove around 90 -110 hp Hondas you aint gonna break much except maybe wipers. And another point is price a Honda compared to a Ford Focus or any car in its class. One last thing America hasnt been up on 4 cyl cars very long!! Just like Hondas hasnt been making V-6s very long.When i say very long im saying in last 15 or 20 years. Im a old guy so thats not long to me.Trust me im not kncking on Hondas just saying when they start producing alot more HP and TQ the reliability is gonna go way way way down. Also my 95 chevy astro van is almost at 166,000 miles never had motor changed or nothing, only had to fix normal stuff hoses, tires. My point being here is i drive my van 80 mph on highways but i dont drag race in it so its gonna last. Just my 2 cents!
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whoops forgot to put a comma this is what i ment to say ....obviously slammed lude, the guy in the hatch.......etc sorry
I understand you iiGTiii. You meant to say, (and dont know how ANYONE is dumb enough not to understand it.) Obviously Slammedlude. The guy in the hatch... blah blah blah. TWO DIFFERENT things were being said 2000SI. DO... YOU...UNDERSTAND....NOW?????? He was replying to Slammedlude. easy as that.
The other thing, When the ricer does a drive by and cuts a u-turn, i decided to go after him and see what he had in his car. He then proceeds to ask me if i was the Mutang he just whopped. And then tells me he kills Mustangs all day long at the track. So i thought it mightbe fun to race. I was wondering how i would match up with a 13.5 second Civic. Thats all. You know.... come to think of it you dont understand alot. First you dont understand DAN02's points, then you dont understand iiiGTiii's point, now mine. I give up. Im moving on. From now on im posting my stret/strip storys i the North east section.
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you guys are great. good kill on the civic hatch. i agree the guy really was asking for it. sometimes you have to "knock" people back to reality. did he run you with his passenger in the car? and was the run close or did you just straight up kill him?
RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 8/31/2004 11:14:13 PM
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You know the other day i was talking with a friend and he thinks Hondas are the best thing since fried rice and says they last longer then Domestic cars.
As whats his name showed us a little while ago, Domestic cars do have their good brands. However, those aren't beat up on like sports cars, IE why they last.
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Now since that Fast N Furious came out. Since that movie you see Hondas trying to race everywhere. Back in th 90s and 80s a Honda would last longer cause most people bought them to have a nice ride with good gas mileage , NOT to DRAG race with. So being that kids and adults drive them like Nascars they gonna break.
I've literally beat the **** out of my Si, and I haven't had one single problem with it, oh and it hasn't had a tune up since before I bought it. (almost 38k to 54k miles now) People have been swapping and racing Hondas since well before FnF came out. STOP saying this... it's annoying.
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And another point is price a Honda compared to a Ford Focus or any car in its class.
Class for class, they're pretty close. the Si was about 18,9xx new.. the Focus SVT is about 19,3xx new.
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Trust me im not kncking on Hondas just saying when they start producing alot more HP and TQ the reliability is gonna go way way way down.
Just let me say, I in no way took offense to anything you said...I just had a few things to say. Thats the one thing about the Si motor, it has a 1.74 A/R. This motor could make 300 hp and do it for 100k miles PLUS... beat to death and still run. Engineering goes a long way.
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i'm 5 grand into a car that is already running 13's, and while i'm not doing it with the massive brute force that you guys are, i'm still pulling similar times to a fair amount of mustang owners- And believe me, I def. understand that starting with a four banger is somewhat of a handicap, and that i will almost never keep up with a mustang all motor- But a good turbo setup on my motor will move me down into the 12's for about 15k, which i still feel like less than most of you have spent on yours cars and that is why honda appeals to me
For the same $5k you spent I had a street legal car that would run down the high way no problem running 11's. For way less than the $15k you are talking about I will have a 9 sec street car that runs on pump gas. It will get 9 sec car mileage, but its not my daily driver. So far I have about $7k wrapped up in the new engine. Everything is new except the block and I have planned on it lasting thru alot of bracket racing and street abuse. Yes its an old car, only paid $200 for the body back in 1991.
My daily driver gets 18mpg, has a 7.5L engine, auto trans, weighs 4200lbs with me in it, had 2.93 gears a stock converter and ran easy 13.5's @ 100-105 all day long. I drove it cross country more than once and grand total including buying it for $1000 is $5500. Its a daily driver so I left most of the weight in it. It has only stranded me once about two years ago when the ignition module went out. Plus as it gets older and I put more effort into it, it increases in value, due to it being a 70 GTO.
I can see your point that its cheap for you because you need something dependable that came with an engine. When I buy a car, I dont even care if it runs. You dont have to be like me. You dont have to be an ASE certified Master Tech to have a car, nor to have a fast one.
What you have done with yours is admirable, you would surprise quite a few people with it. My point is, if you spent the money on another car, got educated about all the intimate workings of a car, you can go fast cheap. If you get the right car it will only get more valuable. In 5 or ten yers what happens to the value of your lude? In 20 years what will it be worth?
Bottom line is if you want to have a car, and you want to make it fast, you can work with what you have right now or you can wait till you find something that has the potential to run already. More potential means faster for less money. Newer cars = more $$. Its very simple.
Reliablity is another thing. Si I doubt it could make 300hp for 100k miles. Just from a mechanical engineering stand point. I dont really want to get into ti withya bro, just tellin ya my opinion. Do and we can find out, ok?
Lude due you are okay as long as you dont have the tude. Im not a typical Ford guy, even though I do have them..lol Sorry about the book.
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I didnt force anyone to buy half an engine, or in the case of a Honda, 1/4 of an engine...
emptyevergreen ... we have to keep the thread going ... its a must.
so here ... its great that i get 100 hp per liter. but it sucks that i only have 1.6 liters.
Mysterious ... i had a 85 prelude that was paid for just laying in my driveway. the body was in mint condition and the engine had over 200,000 miles on it. this is before i got into cars. i didn't drive it that much so i sold the car. now i wish i had keep it ... because it would have been alot better to mod that car since it was paid for than to mod my current civic and be making payments on it at the same time. i could have made it a "fun" daily driver for cheap. i agree with you, its definately better to mod an older car because it cheaper. that means more money into performance. if i had kept the lude i would have made it a 12 sec car. nothing too fast, but in a car that size it would have been a fun ride. not to mention it would of been a good sleeper.
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$3000 to $5000 ... shopping wisely. and honestly that will only be a 13 sec car. a 12 sec n/a prelude would be alot more and in my opinion too expensive. if 12 secs or below is wanted then fi would be the cheaper route.
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RE: My GT vs. a Honda hatch. lol - 9/1/2004 11:11:00 PM
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thats wierd because a 13 second n/a prelude is make believe like leprechauns dragons and eskimos
I see leprechauns and dragons all the time... When it's on TV it has to be real...
If you're going to generalize a statement like that I'd suggest doing a bit of research before hand... I KNOW that there are NA 13 second Preludes. Hell there's 14 second stock Accords out there, and Preludes have motors that are just as powerful and just as easy to modify, if not easier.
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Also my 95 chevy astro van is almost at 166,000 miles never had motor changed or nothing, only had to fix normal stuff hoses, tires. My point being here is i drive my van 80 mph on highways but i dont drag race in it so its gonna last. Just my 2 cents! 
but it sucks that i only have 1.6 liters. 
