Hey that would be awesome to get 13.9 or better N/A, Do you have LCA's or UCA's? I didnt see it on your list, that might help get a little more traction.
WIth slicks and a 5 grand clutch drop ..i can see the 13.99 happening. One advantage you have over the rest of us is the higher octane (meth) and lidios dyno tunning. My experience tells me there is not much power to be made from ignition/tb/and lower intakes in N/A form...but i guess there is only one way to find out for sure. Headers havent showed great gains in the past so we will be looking foward to your dyno. Good Luck on your quest for 13's ..your car is a 5 speed so for now i will stick to bettering boss244's times
Boss244, i already installed the 4.10s and C&L intake. As soon as i break in the 4.10s i will be taking out the same things you take out (seat, jack and spare..which i have never done before ) and giving your 14.4's a shot. I miss my spot at the top of the NA auto foodchain.
well i wont be able to go back to the track until the 27th.... so you guys have some time on me lol.
Et streets are on the way for me, in prep for the turbo.
Did the tbody bypass this morning, so im pretty much out of mods lol. 27th at night i should be seeing mid to high 60s in temp (end of october in phoenix for ya lol) so i should be able to at least run 14.40s consistently.
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well i wont be able to go back to the track until the 27th.... so you guys have some time on me lol.
Et streets are on the way for me, in prep for the turbo.
Did the tbody bypass this morning, so im pretty much out of mods lol. 27th at night i should be seeing mid to high 60s in temp (end of october in phoenix for ya lol) so i should be able to at least run 14.40s consistently.
I would love to see a good "How To" write-up on that by-pass to make into a sticky - RUinterested? Say, what size ET's did you order?
Totally pulling this out of my butt here, but I was under the impression that a single exhaust gave better gains (1 or 2hp more) than duals. Yeah it may be only 1 or 2 but every bit helps. Also, I've seen 17x10 DD bullits. So that might help keep down the weight instead of using a 20in rim. Also I believe they were running 315's on the back tires with those 17x10's. Just a thought. I'd love to see a 13.9X pass too, and after putting an intake and tune on mine I think there's a tremendous potential hidden in these engines. I mean look what people have done to the explorer/ranger 4.0...
well im sorry to dissapoint you boys, but i ran a 13.99 today all stock except for an mrt single axle-back. It was tight, but there was a cobalt in the other lane that ran a 7.4 TOTALLY STOCK. man those things are really under rated.
well i wont be able to go back to the track until the 27th.... so you guys have some time on me lol.
Et streets are on the way for me, in prep for the turbo.
Did the tbody bypass this morning, so im pretty much out of mods lol. 27th at night i should be seeing mid to high 60s in temp (end of october in phoenix for ya lol) so i should be able to at least run 14.40s consistently.
I would love to see a good "How To" write-up on that by-pass to make into a sticky - RUinterested? Say, what size ET's did you order?
IMO a meth inj kit is a power adder, just like nitrous. the car would no longer be N/A with meth inj.
PR 4.6 It's 14.3 now.......
Iam up for the challenge...i just got the jba headers also ..should be here in a week or so ...nothing better than a bit of friendly competition . If i cant beat you I will install the zex kit thats in the corner of my room and go for the fastest nitrous auto jejeje Congrats on the new times... was it a flat 14.30 ? what mph?
can the methanol injection kit be used with the x-charger?
oh yeah, since i work in tv news and there's all these meth busts going on, every time i see "meth kit", i first think that someone's talking about drugs. i've been working in tv for too long...
Not a great dyno day. We noticed a lean condition in the mid range between 3000-4500rpm, so we adjusted that. The horsepower/torque was the same, and in some spots 1-2hp/tq less. It could be dyno error, 1-2 hp/tq.
Zero improvement was not expected, and very disappointing. I am not looking much further horsepower/torque increases, unless I just happen to seen some through the ignition upgrade and driveshaft upgrade.
The next round of mods, with be in late 2007 when the Vortech is added. Maybe the headers will make some difference when forced induction is introduced, not sure. I do however have a call into JBA, for some sort of explanation or assistance. Not sure what they can or would do, maybe the can offer me a discount on something else I still need.
It looks like 220rwhp/250rwtq will be the N/A goal for me. I’m close, so maybe it will happen over the winter months with the couple small items planned. Good luck to all.
That is what we expected....headers havent shown much before , as we had stated. The ignition upgrade probalby wont do anything either. The driveshaft will help since you are taking weigh off a part that the engine has to move. Dont get discouraged ..you just have to adjust your goals accordingly. Let us know whats JBA's answer ..should be interesting to see how they explain this. Remember weather conditions can affect the dyno readings ....since you tested on different days ...weather may have played a part on the readings. Good Luck
Yeah, I figured they would be worth something. Not "0".
I will let you know what JBA says, I was wondering if they would give me a discount on their dual exhaust kit or something.
I'll find 6rwhp/6rwtq somewhere, so I can make my goal of 220rwhp/250rwtq. It won't be easy, but at least I'll know my N/A combo is sorted out nicely. Maybe some of the mods will pay off some dividends when boost is added.
On another note, I'm really glad to see the X-Charger making some gains. I like the kit, I just don't like the price. It's cool to see a V6'er made it into the twelves. Congrats!
This is what I know at this time, and what I have accepted. I spoke with JBA this afternoon and they are surprised to hear the 0 to 1-2 negative horsepower readings. They do however trust Alternative Auto and their expertise. They have a customer guarantee that if you are not happy with your headers, you may return them for a full refund. This does not cover labor charges for the install/removal.
They stand by their product, and were sorry to hear of this performance problem. They have offered me a set of the JBA powercables, for my inconvenience. I have accepted their offer, and are also going to keep their headers. This was not the goal I was looking for, but at least they stand up and accept responsibility for their product.
I would still consider JBA products in the future, but may look closer at my options before making my final decision. I hope this helps anyone, whom may be planning a purchase of any JBA products in the future.
I have a new set of NGK V-power sparkplugs and soon will have a set of JBA powercables to install. Performance distributors will have their new coil ready in January of 2007, so that will be a nice addition to this combo.
P.S. – I also spoke with Powerhouse411 today, and they mentioned they have free shipping for anyone who uses PayPal and orders online. In my case, this may save me $15 towards the aluminum driveshaft and safety loop. ($549 combo)
That is what we expected....headers havent shown much before , as we had stated. The ignition upgrade probalby wont do anything either. The driveshaft will help since you are taking weigh off a part that the engine has to move. Dont get discouraged ..you just have to adjust your goals accordingly. Let us know whats JBA's answer ..should be interesting to see how they explain this. Remember weather conditions can affect the dyno readings ....since you tested on different days ...weather may have played a part on the readings. Good Luck
SAE correction should help with the weather variations...
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...i just got the jba headers also ..should be here in a week or so ...nothing better than a bit of friendly competition . If i cant beat you I will install the zex kit thats in the corner of my room and go for the fastest nitrous auto jejeje
