was wondering if the rumor is true about new camaro has anybody seen any pics of what it may look like yet?

Last time I seen any thing about the Camaro coming back out they had it retro like the Mustang.

yes it's true. yes it will be out in 06 (07 productioon year) and yes it will be a retroish car. It will also have mover power then any of the production vettes before it;s release. meaning that it will be over 400HP. It's also going to be spensive.


here a link with some info and pics


http://mainstreamtopics.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1185

that sounds like an awful lot of speculation there. funny chevy is ripping of the mustang again 40 years later, that compny has no imagination

Thats not the same one that I have seen but close.

there are several different artist reditions out. none of them are 100% correct but you can get the idea.


and that has nothing to do with ripping off a mustang. everyone if going retro. look at the POS thunderbirds.

too expensive. what happened to the day when the average american could afford a good, strong, domestic vehicle? looks like dodge is gonna make another killing. just like the original mopars. ford and chevy need to lower prices.

it's going to be a specialty vehicle like the vettes. would you not expect to pay a lot for a low 12 second car off the showroom floor?

i ppen to know a guy that used to be high up in GM. the new Camaro is being built to directly compete with the mustang. the base will have a v6 or i5 and the better version wil have the same engine that is in the 06 z51 vette, 400 hp. i don't know about the Firebird but he says its dead and to expect the return of the Le Mans with a v6.

ORIGINAL: matthockey32

i ppen to know a guy that used to be high up in GM. the new Camaro is being built to directly compete with the mustang. the base will have a v6 or i5 and the better version wil have the same engine that is in the 06 z51 vette, 400 hp. i don't know about the Firebird but he says its dead and to expect the return of the Le Mans with a v6.


I don't think f-bodies have been built since '93 to compete with Mustangs...

Maybe you meant the Cobra?

the f-bodies were actually built to destroy t-birds and cougars. the new 07 camaro concept is going to try to compete with the mustang, and it will make both cars better. i still think the 68 Z28 body style would be badass.

why was that car scrapped then only made after the design for the mustang was unveiled...what a coincidence i guess

the camaro concept is just plain ugly im not a fan

I never liked the body style of the Camaros I've seen, but that one is hot!

I know I'll probably get stoned for saying this, but I would buy one if they look like that. That is a killer body style. And 400+ HP? Just nasty.

yup. the new c6's dyno at around 350 ish. and the Z06 will be even stronger. So they say that it will ahve more power then any production vette before 07. so that means at LEAST 375 and probably a good bit more then that. and I need to find the better pics that I had.. it's nice

Those pics were from a designer named Kris Horton, who is in no way linked to Chevy.

THe Camaro will be retro, yes, it will ride on the next generation GTO platform, due out in 2 years.

Yeah it is coming back but the Firebird is dead but the Mustang will still out sell it like it always has because it is AMERICA'S PONY CAR. It is affordabel and for how much that new camaro is going to be you could buy a new Mustang and use the rest to make it just as fast if not faster and have some left over.:D

ORIGINAL: 92stang

Yeah it is coming back but the Firebird is dead but the Mustang will still out sell it like it always has because it is AMERICA'S PONY CAR. It is affordabel and for how much that new camaro is going to be you could buy a new Mustang and use the rest to make it just as fast if not faster and have some left over.:D


Congratulations on that post. No really, congrats. I'm glad to see you can form complete sentences.

I like it, but I like my steed too. I'll probably get tired of the Mach by '07 and want to get something else...maybe a Cobra, maybe a 'Maro.

I have heard the same about the lemans comming out looking like the GTO with a 6 cylinder. My personal opinion i think the new concepts of the camaro look like crap. Ford did and awesome job with the new stangs and gt500 concept, makes them look very similar to the older beter stangs and also brings in the new age look at the same time.GM seems to be on some heavy drugs when they were looking at these concepts. The GTO doesnt look bad nether does the Charger concept from dodge. But chevy needs to do something bout the camaro. I say ditch the camaro and bring back the chevelle, always been my favorite GM car. But than im afraid they will screw it up like the camor concepts i have seen. Ill stick with the new stangs before i buy one of the camaros. or i will buy a muscle car when it was muscle and bad ass lookig rather than being a supercomputer on wheels. Peace out guys have fun.

hey let them bring the camaro back. the mustang will still out sell it and they will retire the camaro again. the gto has some nice power but with that look it won't last very long either.

ORIGINAL: 96SilverLT1

yes it's true. yes it will be out in 06 (07 productioon year) and yes it will be a retroish car. It will also have mover power then any of the production vettes before it;s release. meaning that it will be over 400HP. It's also going to be spensive.


here a link with some info and pics


http://mainstreamtopics.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1185




Hate to break it to ya, but that was done by an artist who doesn't have anything to do with chevy. Actually, someone from Chevy took a look at the picture and commented that it was very nice, buuuuuut...needs more length from wheel well to front bumper, rides too low, doesn't provide room for safety equipment + material, and would just be overall too expensive to manufacture.

the reason mustang sells more is all about how they marketed it, they nailed it with the marketing...what that led to is when you think of mustang you dont think of real power, not like the Z28 image, at least not in the past where this image was derived, yet it still holds true...therefore the mustang is bound to be bought by every tom dick and harry and their grandparents too...it is a more drivable, timid, daily driven car for uncle fester and nephew billy too so it does get purchased more...the Z28 was seen as a rude, seriosuly powerful car...that didnt handle too well (actually it does)

just because something sells more doesnt make it better...but you all knew that right? the public is ignorant about many thiings and the media feeds on how easily people feed into advertising...without doing any real research...I mean sure the Mustang sells more...sold more I mean...so what...who needs to see a mustang in every fourth slot in every parking garage you enter or better yet....gotta love yet another cluless blonde in a stang.

I digress

nice image...mustang...the family car!
bet youll see a granny in one today!

Spoken like a TRUE NEWBIE!

ORIGINAL: Colvindesign

Those pics were from a designer named Kris Horton, who is in no way linked to Chevy.

THe Camaro will be retro, yes, it will ride on the next generation GTO platform, due out in 2 years.

Finaly someone who knows whats really goin on.
Looks like only Colvindesign did his research.

ya i agree its not very good lookin, what they sould have dont is to compete with the 05 stang they should have come out w it this year. this could have been huge but i think that they will screw it up :(

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camaro's have always been known as girl cars but i'm not sure if any chic i know can handle 400 HP;) but what ever i want to see a new WS6. Those things are badass.


Camaro's have been known as girl cars? Did you mean Mustang? The majority of Mustang owners are in fact women.

I read this in an article someone posted here on the site. Sums it up well. (http://www.stangbangers.com/96_CobraVsCamaroVsFirebird_Article.htm)

"Mustang, it's the grown up pony car for mature hot rodders. Camaro, if muscle is what you're after, look no further."

Charger concept from dodge

Hey does anybody have the dodge concept pic or link...and when is it coming out?

here is one i found

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v445/zimus/camaro.jpg

My bro. works for a local car dealer, and he had a concept pic, and the front end of the car is butt ugly!!!!!!!!! Give me a Stang any day!!!!!!!

This is it !!@!

The new camaro's are going to be sweet and the challengers are going to be completly bad@ass. I think i'd go w/ the challenger

i hope it doesnt come out i hate comaros

I like that car, ALOT actually..

If I had the money when they came out, I'd definantly keep the Stang and get one of those too, LOL!

If it were between the Camaro, Challenger and Mustang...I'd either go with the Challenger or the Mustang. I LOVE that new Challenger concept. The Camaro, on the other hand, has creases that remind me of the new Saturn Sky in a lot of ways. I'm not too hot on the front end of that car either. I'd hold my hopes that Pontiac will incorporate some retro cues in the GTO with a bit of a better "flow." Also, with the direction that GM/Chevy is taking, do people think that they'll price a base Camaro in line with, say, a Cobalt SS? In order to compete with base 'Stangs price-wise, they're going to pit at least some competition against the Cobalt SS. The Challenger, on the other hand, is an awesomely styled, appropriately named car, in my opinion. Near perfect.

400 hp is a little much. I read an article a week or so ago, and it had the actual pics of the concept. Not artist renderings. Its a bad ass car. They even kept the floor guages like in the late 60s. But from what I read, it is going to be made to compete with the new mustang GTs. So expect ford to be steppin it up too over the next few years.

By the time the maro comes out the new mustang will be close to ready or already be in the works. Camaros sacrificed build quality for speed, which in the end was their downfall. Don't get me wrong I love Maro's but I also love stangs. On another note, if you wanna compare the most likely more expensive 400hp hp Maro, then you better compare it to the stang closest to its price range which is probably more like the GT500. Just a thought. Don't get me wrong though I do like Maros, even the new one

It's Detroit muscle wars all over again, Mustang, Dodge Charger & Challenger, GM GTO & Camaro and do you think they will bring the Firebird back too.

What!!!? When has a F-body ever cost more than a mustang, I am a GM fan and I do think it is kinda ugly, but also your saying f-body's don't have as much quilty as what?.. mustangs, come on both cars are pretty much built the same, Ford will have to step it up.. even if there isn't a new camaro, The challen will have about 400hp and it took ford what 3 years to equal the power of a 02 Trans Am "Ls1" I do also hope they keep up with dodge as I would much rather own a mustang than anything made by dodge. They will all be mid 30k cars, These 'muscle cars" have always been america's bang for the buck,. The f-body's may of died for many diff reasons and Ford has stepped up. Finaly.. now dodge is going to make there run at it, Which just leaves ford. Camaro or firebird I sure hope one of them come out to compete with ford and dodge

I really thought I would learn alot from this site but my god, people be honest and open to all american cars, " A rip off of the mustang" my god its not shaped as a box with 250 hp is it??? no, "Built to keep up with thunderbirds" no i think you mean the Monte would be more of a challenge, "Gm hasn't build a camaro to keep up with the mustang sense 93" you mean 92 is the last year the mustang even came close, The intro of the getto slut Lt1 was the end of anything put in a mustang till 05. The Fox boxs did well untill the lt1 came out, After that no 5.0 or 4.6 was up to par with the Lt1 or Ls1, " I think 400hp is a lil much" I really have no idea where you where going with that one. The corba's are badass I do give ya all that, the 03 newer ones put down some hella power, I have always resecpted mustangs as foes and Friends on the street and strip, America pride is going away weather we all like it or not, " don't bring up that f-body's where built in canada". We are losing all of are bussiness to Honda and other imports, Mustang has been the only choice for a few years and the new models have sold a **** load. What is wrong with the GTO besides its weighs way to much. It has alot of power and is equal with the new mustangs Gt"s, price and power. I look forward to something else american made.... I'm sick of seeing nothing but imports, I"ll never be a fan of a 4banger even if it is in a evo kicking alot of V8 ass "yes thats you to mustang owners" The imports are getting faster and not everyone wants to own a mustang so welcome other american made cars to compete...

Who the hell cares if Wustang outsells the Camaro. Women buyers has alot to do with that stat. What does that tell you? Camaro is all in your face power and faster, thats all I care about. None of you Mustang faithfull want Camaro back, admit it. Remember, Mustang is the top of the line high performance car Ford has (not counting the GT40) and GM will never make a car faster than its flagship cars the Corvette's. Even with this handycap the Camaro has outperformed the Mustang since 1993! Ford has to continue slapping superchargers on there engines to give them BALLS and keep up with LS1,s. It seems that thats all Im reading on these forums, but...,but...,Mustang outsold Camaro, so what, as long as they build it Ill buy one! and if not, Ill keep on racking up the kills on my SS with anything Ford has to throw at me. Camaro does not appeal to everyone, only the true GO FASTER THAN YOU enthusiast!

Who the hell cares if Wustang outsells the Camaro. Women buyers has alot to do with that stat. What does that tell you? Camaro is all in your face power and faster, thats all I care about. None of you Mustang faithfull want Camaro back, admit it. Remember, Mustang is the top of the line high performance car Ford has (not counting the GT40) and GM will never make a car faster than its flagship cars the Corvette's. Even with this handycap the Camaro has outperformed the Mustang since 1993! Ford has to continue slapping superchargers on there engines to give them BALLS and keep up with LS1,s. It seems that thats all Im reading on these forums, but...,but...,Mustang outsold Camaro, so what, as long as they build it Ill buy one! and if not, Ill keep on racking up the kills on my SS with anything Ford has to throw at me. Camaro does not appeal to everyone, only the true GO FASTER THAN YOU enthusiast!

ORIGINAL: ssnakekiller

Who the hell cares if Wustang outsells the Camaro. Women buyers has alot to do with that stat. What does that tell you? Camaro is all in your face power and faster, thats all I care about. None of you Mustang faithfull want Camaro back, admit it. Remember, Mustang is the top of the line high performance car Ford has (not counting the GT40) and GM will never make a car faster than its flagship cars the Corvette's. Even with this handycap the Camaro has outperformed the Mustang since 1993! Ford has to continue slapping superchargers on there engines to give them BALLS and keep up with LS1,s. It seems that thats all Im reading on these forums, but...,but...,Mustang outsold Camaro, so what, as long as they build it Ill buy one! and if not, Ill keep on racking up the kills on my SS with anything Ford has to throw at me. Camaro does not appeal to everyone, only the true GO FASTER THAN YOU enthusiast!


This is true snake.........but if GM doesn't sell cars then all the Camaro enthusiasts will have to hold onto is what is on the streets now. That's all good and well, but there are plenty of GM fans who want a "new" Camaro that will not only perform well, but sell well enough to stick around to compete year for year with the mustang for a long time to come.
There are just alot of ppl out there who want to see the new Camaro come out and kick the dog***t outta Ford's new mustang....but many won't even be buying one if it does. GM doesn't need fanboys, they need customers. So you can slop off the whole "crappy sales" issue that killed off the Camaro in the first place, but I can promise you that GM won't build a new car that it will lose money on just to keep its enthusiasts happy for two or three years. "Who the hell cares if Wustang outsells the Camaro?"...........GM does. And if you want to see the Camaro ever return to the street in modern form......you better too.
I personally want to see the Camaro come out in kickass form. I can't imagine any "real" mustang enthusiast that would be so yellowbacked as to be afraid of the return of some real competition. As far as your disgust with the opinions on this forum....maybe you should look at the header at the top of the page: "Mustang Forums". What were you expecting? But to be honest, I've heard just as many negative comments on the new Camaro concept from Camaro enthusiasts as I have from Mustang guys. So pipe down dude, if your SS is so g**damn badass then it shouldn't matter to you whether a new Camaro will be hitting the streets or not.

Im with you Blood . I hate it when LS1 guys go on other sites and say how great there cars are , like they have the copyrite to the thing. Ford is out to do one thing . Make money. If Mustangs outsell F-bodys then I am sure Ford has no problem with leaving everything alona as-is. I like the new 05 body style. I also think people are underestimateing the Chalenger. I will be glad when everthing hits the street and people either put up or shut up...

Why walk into a pony corral and stir up trouble like it's been said before it is a mustang forum kind of silly to find too many sides to a die hard entusiast. most people either like it or hate it but at the end of the day their cash speccialy the members to these forums is going into their favorite pony...or in your case SS or whatever can't wait to see what they come out with...could care less if it kicks the hell out of my fox body...at the end of the day I will love my mustang pay respect where it is due and then go party with the HORDES of other pony enthusiasts with the same love for their cars as I have for mine.[8D]

Hey guys, Isnt the post about NEW CAMARO? I share my opinions on many forums. The Concept Camaro is all over "your" forums and as a Camaro loyalist Im interisted to find out what the competition thinks about it. Is that wrong? I see Ford owners all over the ls1 and camaro/transamm sights and love the added feedback and topics. Thisblood147 makes a good point, GM should care! I guess what I want to do is convince Mustang owners of the marvel that is the LS1/LS2/LS6 lines and even the LT1's. Their impressive in stock form and just plain nasty on only a heads and cam package! Not to mention reliable.

ORIGINAL: ssnakekiller

Hey guys, Isnt the post about NEW CAMARO? I share my opinions on many forums. The Concept Camaro is all over "your" forums and as a Camaro loyalist Im interisted to find out what the competition thinks about it. Is that wrong? I see Ford owners all over the ls1 and camaro/transamm sights and love the added feedback and topics. Thisblood147 makes a good point, GM should care! I guess what I want to do is convince Mustang owners of the marvel that is the LS1/LS2/LS6 lines and even the LT1's. Their impressive in stock form and just plain nasty on only a heads and cam package! Not to mention reliable.


WEll snake, visit the Street/strip section of our forums and listen to alot of our regulars. MOST of us actually do have plenty of respect for the LS fbodies. Hell, a few of our moderators OWN LS1 and LS2 cars. And just about ALL of us recognize that those cars outdid the mustang stock for stock, year for year since the early 90's. Oh yea, you'll see some trash talkin........but really that's to be expected. At the end of the day, many of us (myself included) don't need convincing to tell us what an awesome package the LS fbodies and LT1's are. Trust me, we know. lol. We've spent over a decade making up for 1.1 liter disadvantage that Ford left us with.....and I don't think there are too many of us who are disheartened by it.
As for the Camaro concept, well.....lets not all judge this egg before it hatches. It IS a concept car, and we all know how much cars change from concept to production. We'll just have to wait and see when it gets here, then we'll see where all the chips fall[8D]

Yeah, but his point is our '06GT is still slower then the old '98 LS1. Sad.

ORIGINAL: 05MidBlueGT

Yeah, but his point is our '06GT is still slower then the old '98 LS1. Sad.


True, but we both bought one didn't we? [sm=smiley36.gif]
I'm not too broken up about the stock power output, or lack thereof. I will go about increasing that hp in my own way as many other 05/06 owners will also. It's become something of the mustang culture since 94 to enjoy finding ways to get over that "hump" that Ford gave us that the fbodies didn't have to get over. I don't think its anything to get yourself down about. In the end, its all about how much you love and enjoy the car you drive. If it can outdo the guy next to you, so much the better. But, for me, I know I won't be disgusted enough to get rid of my car if it happens to lose to someone in a car I don't like. That would be dumb.
Drive it, love it........and if it doesn't feel fast enough........MOD IT!

I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY DO WITH THE CAMARO, just as long as they actually produce it, giving Ford some competition. Competition will hopefully force Ford to put out a better product and force them to keep the Mustang affordable. Maybe, someday in the near future, we may see dealerships actually giving out incentives to folks trying to buy new Mustangs. Right now, that sounds crazy, but the buzz about the new Stang is still fresh.

I LOVE the fact that chevy is poping out a couple new models! The camaro looks good but the challenger looks great. Like others have said all this will do is make BOTH companies work harder to keep our business which will in fact make all of our choices BETTER. As has been said B4 they are BOTH AMERICAN, so im glad its being done we need to KILL off the import cars!!!!

In the past, honestly, much of my Camaro dislike stemmed from the look of the car itself and not as much of the rivalry between their owners and Mustang owners. I liked the 67-69 style because it had some character. After 69, they just got worse and worse until it became a lifeless wedge of a car. Performance wise, they were definitely superior in the 90's all the way up until production stopped, but going fast and looks have to go hand in hand, which is why I've always preferred stangs. This new concept however looks amazing, I admit it.

It will be interesting to see if the car changes much from concept to production. The new style mustang changed (I believe) more than Ford promised it wouldn't, and for the worse. I still loved the 05's, but the concept had such an amazing and doable design I was left wondering why they felt they had to change it. One of the things that made me so excited when I actually saw the concept Mustang was that it didn't appear that it would have to be changed that much. I also seem to remember Ford not providing us with the engine it would have in production at the time of the concept, it was left a mystery for a few months. It's going to be interesting to see if Chevy can build this supposedly 400 hp monster for slightly under 30 to remain competitve with the Mustang. GTO's with the same engine are around 35, and the Charger with the 360hp HEMI can't be found for under 30. We'll see, it should be interesting. But I do hope they make it, and I hope the Challenger makes its return as well.