I had a similar water problem which would show up when the car was parked in heavy rain. The "leak guy" said it was from a clogged a cowl drain on the passenger side. After reading these posts I'm not so sure. We had a heavy rain here over the weekend and my '06 is wet again.
On another note, I had a rattle in the dash too, but my service rep said that is a known issue and they have a fix kit for it. Seems the clips that hold the dash covers in place loosen up over time. They replaced the clips and the rattle stopped.
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Ok, I'm hopeful I may have sealed the water leak. I removed the passenger side inner wheel well behind the tire. There is a pair of grommets there where a big wiring harness and the antenna come through the firewall (see the picture). Yesterday, I laid inside the car while the wife sprayed water on the right side of the car and it looked like water was coming in there. So today I spread clear silicone around the grommets, waited for it to cure and sprayed water on it again. So far, no water inside.
I'm curious though, how many people have noticed this problem only when parking their car facing uphill. I think it would lend some credence to my theory if it didn't happen when the car was parked facing downhill, as the water would run away from the grommet on the firewall.
Also, if anyone else decides to try this method, let me know if it works for you too.
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I just got my car back from the dealership for this issue (and a rattle in the center console which indeed they fixed by stuffing insulation into the console.... love not having that rattle now!).
I will post up the exact words from my service printout, but they did indeed refer to the grommet in the firewall as being "misaligned". They either re-alligned it or installed a new one correctly. They did say that thay saw water entering there during testing - not a lot, but then I am sure they did not test it for very long. I have not had an opportunity to put it to the test myself, but I will comment when I do and if it stopped the leak. I feel reasonably confident though that this is the place where the water gets into the passenger side inside and I was happy to see that they actually found an issue that some of you have found on your own. Much better than saying that they could not replicate it or that it was from a clogged drain plug or something.
I also took my own photo of the area where the water appears in the passenger floor area. The service guys really liked that rather than thinking I was a nut. They said they wished more people would bring photos of issues of this nature so that they can see for themselves just where to start troubleshooting.
I've been following this thread for a week or so, and we've had at least 2-3 hard days rain in SC and I haven't found any moisture in the padding near the kick plate on the passenger side. I plan to keep checking, but I wanted to chime in as one of those with "No problems so far". I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping this is not an issue for everyone with s197 body style.
Also its worth noting that there aren't any hills in the "lowcountry" so even when I wash or it rains, my car is pretty much flat/level always.
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I don't know if this is the problem but I keep seeing the bunch of wires coming through the rubber gromet on a downward angle. I know from my years in construction that when electricians or cable guys or phone co. run wires into a house they put a drip loop in wire so water can't run down the side of the wire. Has anyone tried to hang the bunch of wires higher inside the car so water can't flow in. May not be enough slack. Just a thought. I'll be checking mine tomorrow!
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And - as promised - here is the quote from my service receipt pertaining to the warrantly leak work I just had done Nov. 29th:
WIRING HARNESS BOOT MISALLIGNED AT BULK HEAD ALLOWING WATER INTRUSION UNDER HEAVY RAIN RE-SEAT BOOT DRY FLOOR AND CARPETING AND RETEST OK
Welper, that's it folks. I still have not tested it for myself. I am fairly busy much of the time and so I may not run water on it for hours..... but I very interested in test driving it through some puddles and heavy rain. If it does rain next when I am at home, I will go move the car from the garage out into the rain on the same slight incline that produced water in the carpet before. Once again, I'll post the results as soon as I know. For right now, I am only "hoping" that was really the fix. Fingers crossed!
Here are a couple of pics showing the wiring harness in question...
and a close up
I haven't decided yet, if I'm going to add silicone sealer in this area or not....
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And - as promised - here is the quote from my service receipt pertaining to the warrantly leak work I just had done Nov. 29th:
WIRING HARNESS BOOT MISALLIGNED AT BULK HEAD ALLOWING WATER INTRUSION UNDER HEAVY RAIN RE-SEAT BOOT DRY FLOOR AND CARPETING AND RETEST OK
Welper, that's it folks. I still have not tested it for myself. I am fairly busy much of the time and so I may not run water on it for hours..... but I very interested in test driving it through some puddles and heavy rain. If it does rain next when I am at home, I will go move the car from the garage out into the rain on the same slight incline that produced water in the carpet before. Once again, I'll post the results as soon as I know. For right now, I am only "hoping" that was really the fix. Fingers crossed!
First steady rain conditions since my dealership's leak "fix" of re-alligning the wiring harness boot and here are the official results:
I was in a moderate, steady rain long enough to eat breakfast and shop at Sam's. No major puddles, no parking on an incline even.
Needless to say I am PO'd! I'm going to show up at the dealership at 7am tomorrow morning and rent a car. They had better be prepared to pay for this car rental considering my service rep clearly stated last time "I am NOT going to let your car leave here with a leak in it".
This is really a hassle and is making me sick. I've gone from love this car to disappointed with this car to love this car to disappointed to love and now back to disappointed. If the leak gets fixed, I'll love it again provided nothing else rears its ugly head. I've had it long enough to work out most the kinks (including the fuel pump TSB), so maybe this is the last of the BS??? Please?????!!!!
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Hang in there, the leak problem should get resolved eventually....
Here is another promising fix to the leak issue....
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Hi. New to the forums here but found this after searching because of a horrible smell in my '06 GT. After reading the posts checked the passenger floor and sure enough under the carpet was wet. Took it to the dealer and just got it back last week. It was raining on the trip home about an hours drive and rained for 2 days after. The car appears to have stayed dry. Not much on tech terms but here's what they found , leak found around body seam on ps front under wiper cowl. Resealed seam and put cowl and wipers back on. Not sure if this helps anyone out but its worth a look. Also had the dash rattle and TSB06-4-1 seems to have fixed that as well. Car is stored for the winter now but will report back if the problem reoccurs. Good luck all!
I'm a little late in reading up on this thread, but from what I've read, I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. As far as I know, I haven't noticed any leaks and there's no musty smell which may indicate so. Actually, its still has the new car smell. Who knows, it may just suddenly happen on a rainy day. Well see. I'm knocking on wood that it doesn't.
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ok ive noticed the mildew smell and the water also enters the car from the slot between window sill and the body of the car, because when i open the door, it usually gushes out....from the door sill.......
but since i park on a hill upright, i was wondering if the mildew water would be in the same place or further down by the seats because i just wanted to see if i can find it today, after it stops raining
Most of what I've been reading is that those of you with the water issue are waiting for rainy days, doesn't this happen when you wash it? Let's say just by pouring water into the cowl area and then checking?
For me, I have only seen the water after the car was exposed to rain for a length of time (at least certainly longer than the typical car wash duration). Washing my car has never produced visible water in my floorboard, but I will admit that I never checked just under the plastic area for moisture, I always noticed my water visually protruding beyond the plastic kickplating into the carpet.
Most of what I've been reading is that those of you with the water issue are waiting for rainy days, doesn't this happen when you wash it? Let's say just by pouring water into the cowl area and then checking?
I can reproduce the problem by washing it. There's not enough water to bleed through the carpet, but the under-matting is definitely wet afterwards.
I don't know which of these threads is most followed.. LOL. The other is linked from the S197 INFO section above. But, here is my latest INFO that I posted to the other thread:
Here are the results from my 2nd visit to the same dealership for the leak issue that did not get fixed with the 1st visit (noted a few posts above):
A QCP C/S WATER LEAKING FROM RIGHT FRONT UNDER DASH CAUSE: 14498 77 WATER TEST VEHICLE NECESSARY TO REPLACE PASS FRT DOOR OPENING WEATHERSTRIP (20708) FOR COLLAP SED SEAL AT MIRROR MOUNTING MOUNTING LOCATION
20708A WEATHERSTRIP - FRONT DOOR OPENING - REPLACE 69000A DOOR AND WINDOW - WIND NOISE/WATER LEAKS - DIAGNOSIS 1 4R3Z*6320708*AA WEATHERSTRIP ASY - DOOR OPENIN
14498 77 WATER TEST VEHICLE NECESSARY TO REPLACE PASS FRT DOOR OPENING WEATHERSTRIP (20708) FOR COLLAP SED SEAL AT MIRROR MOUNTING LOCATION R AND RT FRT DOOR TRIM PANEL TO ACCESS ADJUST DOOR GLASS UP FOR MISALLIGNMENT DRY CARPETING AND RETEST NO FURTHER LEAKS FOUND AT PASS KICKPANEL AREA AT THIS TIME
I drove the car home from the dealership in a relatively strong rain, but for only about 20 minutes. I also hit every puddle I could find. There only the tiniest bit of dampness if I stuck my finger just under the where the carpet meets the kickpanel. I think that that moisture may have just been left over from when they dried out my carpet after testing, etc. I need to have the car in the rain for a couple of hours or so .... and a couple of times or so to truly conclude that this particular service visit actually fixed the leak. I'll post back here when that happens.
So far, so good.... but inconclusive until further reality testing provided by mother nature.
As a consolation, Ford did pay for my rental car this time.
Hi guys! I've been following this thread with interest since my 2003 vert had a leak problem during heavy rain and I've discovered some things that may apply, in general anyway even though my car is different. In my case water was accumulating in the floor pan behind the passenger seat and mostly in the middle and near the transmission hump. Only in heavy rain. Nothing else was wet, which was weird because it appeared that someone had poured a large glass of water right in the middle of the carpet. IOW there was no path of wet carpet leading to the puddle. Strange. The vert top was not leaking BTW but that was wjere I looked first, of course
After a little trouble shooting I found the problem. The water was actually coming in at the cowl/passenger side where the door meets the windshield. This is normal. The water is supposed to run THROUGH the rocker panels, or the frame of the car and then exit out the back through drip holes. By pulling up the trim covers over the rocker panels I could look through the holes and see the water running along in there kind of like a little river!
However, the water never made it to the drip hole because of a crack in the sealant that is smeared over the welds where the floor pans are welded onto the frame. The water would run right out of the seam and into the rear floor pan.
I smeared silicon rubber all over the seams and it has been fine ever since.
I don't know if Ford has changed the type of sealant that they used on my car to a different type but I can say that the problem is, the sealant, which looks like peanut butter, is rock hard not flexible and will crack.
They also seem stingy on it's use and I could see gaps where they missed spots so I smeared them with silicon as well.
Two things come to mind:
1. The source of the leak may be nowhere near where it puddles. 2. Check every weld and make certain if there is supposed to be sealant on top of it, their is enough of it and it has not cracked.
Just some advice from an 03 owner that feels your pain. Leaks suck and are as difficult to fix as intermittants.
I've had my car for about 6 months now and hadn't had any problems until now. I was feeling the carpet, still dry. I pull the right kick panel, stick my finger between the carpet and floor it feels moist. I rip the carpet back from underneath the glove box and the foam layer under the carpet is just soaked.
Im rooting around under the hood, and looking at the firewall dead on, to the right of the battery underneath the cowl is a sort of ledge, and there is a rubber gasket underneath. Quite big, maybe 1/2" by 3 ". Its wet. VERY wet. I pull it out and next thing you know, i have about a cup full of water comming out ! Enough to drop all over the cat, then pool on the garage floor. Its like all the water comes in from the wiper area and just pools there.
I dont have my camera handy so i can't take any pictures, but does anyone have the same thing?
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Just found this on another forum:: Topic: Interior water leak (ksmach1 -- 20th December 2006 - 06:26 PM) ............................................ I'm not sure were to post this so I'll start here. I own a 2007 GT500 and only had it for three weeks now. Just this past Sunday, I was washing the car and found water on the passenger side floor. Further investigation, I found that behind the kick panel was also wet. Beware that their is some kind of electrical module that is located behind the kick panel. I took the car back to the dealer and at first they could not duplicate the leak. During a few hours of testing, they moved the car to were the car was sitting at a different angle and than the water began run onto both passenger and driver side floors. Here is my take, the plastic panel that sits over the firewall that covers the windshield wiper linkage is the problem. This panel is attached to the firewall by pins that slide into insert cups installed in the fire wall. The insert cups have some sort of seal but I'm thinking that the seal is not able to hold up to any kind of water build up. Also, it just so happens that one of these inserts is located above the passenger and drivers side kick panels. <_< So what is the dealer doing, so far they reported their findings to Ford tech support and while their waiting on a response, they pulled my carpets up to dry everything out. If I am right about these insert seals not doing the job, this problem may not just be a GT500 thing. At this point I welcome any insight, suggestions, or if you had this same problem with your 05 to 07 mustang. As I get more info from the dealer, I'll post their findings and Fords master plan to make this right. Outside of this problem, the GT500 is an AWESOME PONY!!!
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