I seem to have found where the leak was coming from in mine. It required a bit of contortionist work to see. But when the leaking occurs I got inside the passenger side footwell and looked straight up. I could see water coming down all the way to where the frame met the door. Looking at the door seal I noticed there were two holes in the door seal about 1/4 of the way up where the seal bent. There was a hole that looked like a tear where the flap was. Although the hole was smaller on the driver's side. Seems like the door seals need to be replaced on both sides. I'll take some pictures tomorrow of it. I filled the holes with clear silicone and it seems to have fixed the problem. The electrical system works fine now. I own a 2006 Mustang GT Coupe.
verdict is in. it was not any of the areas on the TSB leaking. It was another pinch welded seam that was missing some sealer. I am picking it up this saturday morning and I will post pics of were the leak was.
panzermk2's experience here is living proof that Ford's watef leak TSB is flawed - and unfortunately, it is simply Ford's attempt at a cheap solution to the problem.
Most of the vehicles that have been posted about with leaks have been vehicles that have had body seam sealer problems - not enough sealer - or missing sealer - or no sealer. Ford's water leak TSB does not even address this.
The speculation is that Ford did not want to put forth a TSB that required 4 to 6+ hours worth of labor needed per vehicle to remove the hood; right front fender; etc.; to get to the body seams.
Even if a dealer performed the TSB work for you - keep an eye out. Certainly Ford is not looking our for us.
Ok I took my car in for the water leak issue. My car leaks thru the windows on both seats evertime it rains hard. The service guy told me they ran a hose over my windows and couldn't get it to leak, so they told me if it happens again to bring it back. Guess I will need to take pics for them to actually do something about it.
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These are the two holes in the moulding/door seal that I filled. This fixed the issue with water leaking into the car. I used basic clear silicone sealant. I'm sure you can use any color. Cheap two dollar fix for a potentially huge problem.
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Ok I took my car in for the water leak issue. My car leaks thru the windows on both seats evertime it rains hard. The service guy told me they ran a hose over my windows and couldn't get it to leak, so they told me if it happens again to bring it back. Guess I will need to take pics for them to actually do something about it.
Lucky, I took my 06 in for repair #3 last Friday (first two fixes were cowl related) and once again they confirmed the leak, but the leak guy said that Ford now has some revised clips that hold the windshield mouldings in that are known to cause the leak. Maybe you may have a similar issue if yours is leaking on both sides. They had to order the parts and its back in next week.
My dealer says they are well aware of the leaking issue and that it has many potential areas of water intrusion. A lot of what we spoke about from what others on here have seen done they were aware of..
These are the two holes in the moulding/door seal that I filled. This fixed the issue with water leaking into the car. I used basic clear silicone sealant. I'm sure you can use any color. Cheap two dollar fix for a potentially huge problem.
It seems to me that the places you sealed are drainage channels. If they are plugged up the water will still get in the car.
An update on my 2006 V6 Stang. I just took it to the dealer for the 7th time. My inital leak occured at 3K miles (I'm sure it was present earlier though) and now I am at 27K. Still leaking in the passenger side kick panel. They have done so many tests, seals, re-seals, weatherstrip, grommet fixes etc. There are too many to list. I got the the stang in Sept. of 06. It has been in the shop for about 33 days total. I just filed case with the BBB as I am tired of battling this car. It's a shame really.
Yep probably true, but it solved the problem. It just drains out the top now. Not enough water stays for it to matter. Check the seal on yours, it's at most a thimblefull of water in that pocket.
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I have the same leaking problem in my 07 GT. I guess the next time it rains, I will take it to the dealer..
Well here we go again. My 06 GT (the replacement for the POS 05 Musponge that Ford was required to replace by the BBB) started leaking on the passenger side last week. For all of you that have said it was "JUST ONE CAR", I now have had 2 cars with the exact same leak problem (an 05 Convertible V6 and a 06 GT Coupe.)
Parts were ordered and installed (cowl seal, clips and passenger side weather stripping). They also RTV'd the grommets around the wiring harness. I think I've just about had it. Ford you win. I'm not going to sit here and wonder if the leak is FINALLY fixed this time. I'm in process of unloading this piece of junk before I have to go through the same thing all over again. However, I win too. I will NEVER buy a Ford product again and will NEVER recommend one to anyone I actually like. I will however make it publically known what pieces of crap Ford Motor Company produces. (Though it's not really much of a secret.)
If Quality is Job #1, then Ford has no idea what quality is. I guess their definition of quality is screw the customer and lie about defects in their vehicles. If they can't keep water out of the passenger compartment on a vehicle, it really makes me wonder what kind of nightmares I'd be in for later on if I did keep this piece of junk.
I just wanted to update everybody. I took my car to a local ford dealership. They said their is a TSB on the water leaking issue. They were going to fix it but they didn't have the equipment to do so. They had to sub-contract a body shop to due it. They said they would have to take apart the dash and pull all of it out to find the leak. This is pretty crazy for a car that is brand new. I just bought it back in July. At least the dealer ship is paying for a rent-a-car. So until they get it fixed, I'll be driving a Chevy Malibu.
Throw 2 tons of RTV and seam sealer at the car in random areas until it the Mustang stops leaking. If unable to actually to get it to stop, make it look like you're still trying and waste the as much of the customers time as possible.
Dealership response :
Make sure to distract the customer, hopefully they won't realize that the car probably leaked from the day it was built. Avoid letting them know that Ford Motor Company's piss poor quality control and sub standard engineering allowed the problem in the first place.
Ensure to stress the fact that NOBODY else has EVER reported any kind of leaking problem with the 05-08 Mustang and they are the FIRST.
Eventually over time the dealership will just wear down the owner of the car and he wont be able to stand it anymore. Should the customer becomes agitated (because the incompetant service department can't fix it), immediately threaten the customer with your intent to call the police and demand that he remove his vehicle from the lot. Do not worry about any form of reprimand from Ford Corporate, as an independent dealership just claim that your responsibility goes not further than selling the car. (Wouldn't want to lose a Ford dealership that was able to lie to a customer and get the home office money. Why wouldn't Ford Corporate back the Ford dealer up ? After all it's only ONE customer.)
The owner may possibly do one of 2 things : #1) Drive his leaking POS Mustang through your showroom. #2) Trade it in.
Either way as a dealership the responsibility for actually fixing the car will be removed. The worst case is some other idiot customer will buy it and you can give him the same hard time that you gave the original owner until HE gets rid of it. So what if they won't ever buy another car from Ford. (Ford still got the customers money at least once, after all it is only ONE customer.)
Submissions for the New Ford Company Motto:
Ford Motor Company ... We make pretty cars, so what if they're actually junk.
Ford ... Buy a car from us then go screw yourself.
Ford Motor Company ... on the edge (edge of going out of business).
Ford Motor Company ... Making Japanese Cars Look Better And Better Everyday
Ford Motor Company ... We got your money, now go f&*k off.
Ford Motor Company ... Wadda you mean we have to keep water OUT of the cars ???
Let me get this straight ... You took this to a Ford dealership that wants to sub contract finding the leak and the sub contractor wants to remove the dash. You might want to let them know that the TSB specifically states DO NOT REMOVE THE DASH !!!
I thought Sunshine Ford in Newburgh NY was a dump. It sounds like you found a dealership worse than them (if that's actually possible.)
It's not like Ford is really going to actually help you with the problem. (You might be in for the screwing of a life time.) However, find someone that can read the TSB and let them do the work on your car.
What do you expect from UAW workers? GOOD WORK? Unions are the complete opposing force in the universe to quality work.
Thankfuly my dealership didn't BS me. They just grabbed my car, gave me a loaner and promised I would not get it back until it was fixed. AND thats what they did. Again Harvard Ford is a great shop
Time for an update! I did take the car to the dealership and two days later they said that it was fixed. When I got up this morning and got in the mustang, I found more water has leaked in. This time, I took pictures. I guess I will be heading back to the dealer ship.
Sorry to bring back an old post, but I ended up with the leak and wanted to add what's happened so far -
I live in the NW and we started getting our really heavy rains about a month ago. After a particulary heavy downpour, I got in the car in the morning (parked outside) and the passenger floor was wet all the way back to the seat. Wanting to verify that I actually had the leak I dried it all out and monitored. Came back on the next heavy downpour, but this time was only right under the SJB and wasn't showing thru the carpet (makes me wonder how many have this but don't know till the SJB starts freaking out)
Took it in to the dealer, and was assurred that they've already done several Mustangs for the exact same thing. Car was done late the next day. From the service invoice:
"..Removed the cowl panels LH and RH removed the wipers sealed up the cowl seam where sealer was skipped added sealer around the cowl panels clips and sealed around the wire harness grommet into the vehicle. Water leak tested water entry is no longer present. Reinstalled the carpet and trim and verified proper operation. Resealed per TSB 07-14-6 basic part number 63517C58 condition code 07. "
So I'll of course monitor to make sure it's fixed. But what was remarkable is that I asked the service advisor about how it said "sealer was skipped" and if that meant that it was missed at the factory completely and he said that is was. He also added that there were 3 more Mustangs there for the same thing. The repair came in at 5 hours, 100% warranty covered.
What I come away with is:
1) Now that we're getting heavy rains the issue is showing itself in many cars around here.
2) You may not know unless you open the access panel and feel the carpet directly underneath the SJB.
3) Given the volumes, and that he said it was skipped at the factory, it may be really widespread and worth having checked even if you live in the desert.
4) Now that there's the TSB, I'd imagine that Ford is going to make sure they don't come off the factory floor like this anymore. 5 hours of labor X a ton of cars = Big time $$$ for warranty repairs.
I'm glad things have work out for you with the leaking issue. Monday morning, I have an appointment to take it back to the dealer. This will be the second time.
Why in the world would they skip installing sealer from the factory? Someone screwed up big time.
I don't know if the sealer is robot or human applied. but I would think that it's more than some worker messing up, otherwise the sealer issues would be more random.. maybe they just didn't specify the procedure on the assembly line correctly.
But so far so good, been having rain and still dry - knock on wood...
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