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I dont know if they are different, I just wanted to say that there is nothing wrong with looking good while going fast. I wouldnt mind having a saleen or rouch body kit on my stang if I weren't so damn expensive.
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Why not a 347 stroker motor? Your gonna go to the trouble of building a stroker motor and not take it to 347 ci. Why? You sound like just another lying ricer fag in denial. You know when its all said and done your basically gonna have this pile of metal that looks like so many different things even youll be confused as to what it is and it will problably drive like ass. And even if you are building a stroker motor why mess with a body kit? Sounds like your trying to build a race car but you want to be all fast and the furious with it too. Now i suppose your gonna tell me you want "style and speed" too huh? Youll have so much money tied up in that thing and its just gonna be another piece of s**t wanna be like i see on the boulivard everyday. Save your money, sell the piece, and buy a real saleen!
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Why not a 347 stroker motor? Your gonna go to the trouble of building a stroker motor and not take it to 347 ci. Why? You sound like just another lying ricer fag in denial. You know when its all said and done your basically gonna have this pile of metal that looks like so many different things even youll be confused as to what it is and it will problably drive like ass. And even if you are building a stroker motor why mess with a body kit? Sounds like your trying to build a race car but you want to be all fast and the furious with it too. Now i suppose your gonna tell me you want "style and speed" too huh? Youll have so much money tied up in that thing and its just gonna be another piece of s**t wanna be like i see on the boulivard everyday. Save your money, sell the piece, and buy a real saleen!
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Well to answer your question, i am building a 331 because it has a much better rod ratio than a 347 and for a car the sees alot of street time the 331 is a more durable choice, but you probably have no idea what rod ratio is so you can take that as an insult to the little intelligence you have. this car will be on the street alot and since saleen doesnt offer a 331 car id rather make my own replica just the way i want it to look so it is more origninal than if i was to buy a done real saleen. half the fun is building the car you jackass maybe instead of criticizing me you should realize what the car craft really is, building a car because you enjoy it and driving it when its done. o and by the way if i added a saleen kit it wouldnt be a pile of metal, the kits are urethane and fiberglass not metal dumbass. i have no idea what type of point you are trying to get across all i asked was a simple question. if the post read "all jackasses with nothing better to do than spam please post here" then i would have known.
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If what your trying to do is improve performance by using shorter connector rods to change your connector rod ratio its really piontless unless your using nitrous which you obviously do not have or else you would have ranted and raved about how cool you were for having that as well. Basically the only reason you would be concerned about shorter connector rods would be to delay when the cylanders hit their peak pressure so nitrous could be introduced whithout frying the pistons. This also requires cylander head as well as camshaft modifications. So unless you are using nitrous oxide this modification is really unessesarry. So that still doesnt explain why the rod ratio of a 331 is "better" than that of a 347. Niether has a "better" or "worse" rod ratio. One is simply better suited for nitrous. Oh and about the whole body kit thing. Nah really they are made of fiberglass or urathane, waaaaaw! youre a real rocket scientist for knowing that. A car is mostly made of metal hence the phrase "youll have such a confusing pile of metal even youll be confused as to what it is". What? would you have rather me said something like " youll have such a confusing pile of urathane"? I guess so because according to some of the stupid s**t youve said you problably think thats all a car is composed of is a body kit and some cool technical words to back you up so you sound like you know what youre talking about. Yeah nice try at trying to insult me but i worked at a custom body shop for about 2 years and grew up around mechanics so you cant just throw around words like rod ratio or other components of and engine to confuse me. I know a thing or two ass wipe! Oh and youd never understand the art behind building a "custom" car because all you seem to wanna do is copy other peoples one of a kind automotive designs like that of steve saleen instead of creating something you designed. Again like i said its just gonna be another knock off saleen that has a semi fast motor that youve problably sank more money into than you would have done to have just bought a real saleen or building a true "custom" car. You dont like what i have to say? Bite my ass!
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Early foxbody saleens start at $10,000 and for that you get alot of car that is in fair to good condition with relatively low mileage for its age. Add about 6 to 10 thousand in mods over time and youve got a damn fast car that can rival many new saleens on the strip and on the road course Thats cheaper than a civic or a new GT,Cobra, or roush. If your gonna tell me thats too expensive for people then they need to find a new job.
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If what your trying to do is improve performance by using shorter connector rods to change your connector rod ratio its really piontless unless your using nitrous which you obviously do not have or else you would have ranted and raved about how cool you were for having that as well. Basically the only reason you would be concerned about shorter connector rods would be to delay when the cylanders hit their peak pressure so nitrous could be introduced whithout frying the pistons. This also requires cylander head as well as camshaft modifications. So unless you are using nitrous oxide this modification is really unessesarry. So that still doesnt explain why the rod ratio of a 331 is "better" than that of a 347. Niether has a "better" or "worse" rod ratio. One is simply better suited for nitrous. Oh and about the whole body kit thing. Nah really they are made of fiberglass or urathane, waaaaaw! youre a real rocket scientist for knowing that. A car is mostly made of metal hence the phrase "youll have such a confusing pile of metal even youll be confused as to what it is". What? would you have rather me said something like " youll have such a confusing pile of urathane"? I guess so because according to some of the stupid s**t youve said you problably think thats all a car is composed of is a body kit and some cool technical words to back you up so you sound like you know what youre talking about. Yeah nice try at trying to insult me but i worked at a custom body shop for about 2 years and grew up around mechanics so you cant just throw around words like rod ratio or other components of and engine to confuse me. I know a thing or two ass wipe! Oh and youd never understand the art behind building a "custom" car because all you seem to wanna do is copy other peoples one of a kind automotive designs like that of steve saleen instead of creating something you designed. Again like i said its just gonna be another knock off saleen that has a semi fast motor that youve problably sank more money into than you would have done to have just bought a real saleen or building a true "custom" car. You dont like what i have to say? Bite my ass!
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Dude you have a serious mental problem. anyway the 347 is also a very effiecent oil burner from were the oil ring lands on the piston. ye si know probe industries has made a 347 stroker piston to solve this problem were they raised up the oil ring but they also made the top so thin that it is prone to cracking,another reason why i would not want to live with a 347 everyday. and with the body kit thing, yeah im gonna use steve saleen's design, you know why because how the hell do u want me to make my own bodykit? out of garden trim? o and im very happy to see you worked at a body shop for 2 years, i bet you learned how to use a broom real well. i dont like what u say? no i love what you say its entertianing to see how some people are real assholes from the start i asked a question you gave quite a homosexual response but that ok caus ei can take it. but i wont let you off without proving you wrong. btw if i got an lx for 4k and a saleen kit for another 1k them whats the sense in spending 10k for a real saleen? an extra 5k for authenticity? i could care less if it was a real saleen i just like the way it looks. well i certainly hope you will find somehting better to do than to reply to this post or anyother post i make becaus ei could really do without your snide remarks and asshole comments, if you dont intend to help then dont bother posting!
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Besides you are a 19 year old asshole with nothing better to do than be gay and please do not try to tell me you grew up around mechanics becasue if you did then would have known the 347 is an oil burner and the rod ratio makes the wrist pin cause greater side loads on the cylinder walls causing increased wear. please do not reply to my posts justin smith i do not need your advice.
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I just want to throw my 2 cents in this mess.
Here....
This is my Babby. 1994 Saleen with a rebuilt 351 winzer. I have more money in the engine than my house. Everywhere I go people come out of the wood work and ask me about my car.
I always have to pop my hood to prove to people that it is NOT an all show no go car. If you get a body kit that looks like a saleen you will have the same problem. People will pull up along side you and give you the universal "spin your tires" motion. Everyone and there brother will want to race. I have had on 2 seperate ocasions people follow me home and ask a bunch of questions when all I wanted to do was to go Watch the game.
What I am trying to say is be ready for that. I would hate to see you make an expensive investment and be unhappy with it in the long run.
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[QUOTE=93saleen]Early foxbody saleens start at $10,000 and for that you get alot of car that is in fair to good condition with relatively low mileage for its age. Add about 6 to 10 thousand in mods over time and youve got a damn fast car that can rival many new saleens on the strip and on the road course Thats cheaper than a civic or a new GT,Cobra, or roush. If your gonna tell me thats too expensive for people then they need to find a new job.[/QUOTE]
For starters, anything that old and the banks (all to my knowledge) are only gonna finance for 2 years, on a 10k car your gonna be lookin at payments of $500.00 per month if you financed all of it. Yes then sale price is cheaper than most all new cars, but not the payment price. In addition, ALL banks would rather loan on a new car vs an old specialty car any day. That may not be a problem for you or I, but 3 years ago I could't afford that. The average 19 year old prolly makes 7 bucks an hour, and half the members here are that age.
All I'm really asking is for you not to be so critisizing with your advice. Alot of new people come here for advice, and we don't want to be driving them away because we call them idiots for not being as well informed as others. We all had to start somewhere right?
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thankyou for seeing my point, the attention problem your goin got get with alot of cars that look nice not just a saleen. i get the universal spinyour tires now anyway and any car that sounds like its got a pair is gonna get noticed. the purpose of the forum is to help each other right? therefore if i ask a question i am expecting an informative response not a snide remark.
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[QUOTE=94kbscobra]Besides you are a 19 year old asshole with nothing better to do than be gay and please do not try to tell me you grew up around mechanics becasue if you did then would have known the 347 is an oil burner and the rod ratio makes the wrist pin cause greater side loads on the cylinder walls causing increased wear. please do not reply to my posts justin smith i do not need your advice.[/QUOTE]
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I will say one final thing and you and others can take it for what its worth. First ask any mechanic and hell tell you a built up engines gonna wear out fast and burn a little oil and that messing with rod ratios in a small block thats not seeing nitrous is a waste of time. Second the idea behind saleen is not to build a car for pionting and going straight. The whole idea of the car was to enhance the driving experience as a whole (open track driving or tracks with varying multiple turns for you people who are strictly into drag racing.) Thats why i get insulted when i see replica saleens that may be a fast straight line car (even faster than a real saleen) but they have nothing in common except the look of a saleen. It pisses me off in the way one might get pissed at seeing that damn GT-R skyline logo on a mustang, or a mustang with a type R sticker on it, or the way one might get pissed who owns a bmw z3 at seeing those damn hondas with z3 fenders. I worked hard to get my 93 saleen and because i wanted to be different from everyone else. I guess i get carried away with what people do because i feel like i worked hard for something special and somebody can just get a regular stang and clone it and ive known people who have done that and passed it off as being real. yes i did push a broom at the body shop, but we werent a big businees so at one point or another eberyone did their part in broom pushing, but i also did body work. Im fully aware that saleens are not in any way the god of all mustangs nor are they the fastest. Their just a good all around fast car. I realize most of the users on the forum hate me now and im sorry for going off like a pr**k, or making demeaning comments towards them. I forget that a person who is building a car is not doing it for the soul purpose of pissing people off cause its not real, they simply wanted it the way they would build a car and could care less about s**t they dont want. I also would like to apologize to the guy who wants to put an s351 body kit on his car who i started $hit with. I used my words carlessly thinking you were just another ricer fag, and was very pissed when you said i was an idiot about cars, but i brought that on myself and turned this thing into a pissing contest just because of the fact i wanted to go off on someone for trying to make something like what i had. Again im sorry. Finally i would like to apologize for filling this post with bulls**t just cause i got pissed that someone wanted a saleen kit on their car. I should appreciate the fact that their are other people in the world that like american iron, and not all into putting "mufflaz" on their honda, and that this forum was created for people who love all mustangs(except riced out pieces of s**t ones) to help their fellow enthuisiasts with information. Id rather see fake saleens that were at least fast all day than riced out pieces of s**t. I hope that yall will accept this apology and in the future I will only post helpful information, or comments that are relavent to the conversation. I hope this offered a little insight to my asshole like behavior.
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