I saw a thread on here I believe where someone installed the Pioneer AVH-P6800DVD in there 05 Mustang but he mentioned he had to toggle switch the parking brake wire. My question is isn't there a more suitable way to do this? I don't want any extra wires or switches in the car that aren't necessary. I'm sure a professional shop wouldn't hook up a toggle to work the dvd player. Has anyone else installed this unit in their car? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I believe you are trying to get the unit to allow you to see DVDs from the front seat. Normally, you would have to have the parking brake engaged to watch a DVD. I had my AVH-68000 installed by a pro. As a favor, he installed a pushbutton switch under the dash, drivers side for me so I could bypass the parking brake signal. He first tried to take the parking brake signal to ground (as I understand it) but everytime you turn off the car, it would reset, so the switch was required. I just went and bought a black on/off switch I liked to go with my black interior and he installed it. So the process is: when the unit powers up and I choose to watch a DVD it comes up with the message illegal to watch a DVD from the front seat, I push my little secret button and it changes screens and gives me a message with an OK button. I touch that and I can view the DVD. Good luck.

A professional shop wouldn't install a switch. And you wouldn't be able to watch video unless your car was parked and the parking brake was engaged. But if you want to watch videos while driving, a switch or button is required. Also, it's pretty easy to hide it if you dont want anyone to see it.

I'm kinda going nuts on this [:@]. I hooked the dvd wire to the e brake like instructed and the "attention" screen will not go away but I hear the movie playing. Secondly, I'm only getting 4 out of the 6 speakers to work. The 2 lower ones in the doors are not working!!! I had this same problem I believe in my 93 mustang but I can't remember at this moment what I did to reslove the problem. My head hurts. I thought taking the car apart would be thr problem not the Pioneer stereo!!!?!

hook up the remote turn on from the deck to the hrns(blue to blue) and the bottom speakers should work. If you hooked it up to the parking brake the way you are supposed to it will of course have to be on to see it, and may need to do some kind of sequence to activate the video.

I didn't hook the remote wire to anything so yea maybe that will work, thanks. I tried a bunch of different things as far as the dvd video but the "attention" window would not go away. I don't have any reputible places I know of around here to do the install...maybe I'll return the unit who want to stop to watch a video anyhow??? Plus I don't want a damn toggle switch in the car to "trick" the unit. Oh well.

look over the install instructions and see if it needs a sequence to be put on the brake to turn on. Also check the back of the manual for troubleshooting tips to see if there are any other wires that needs to be hooked up.

ORIGINAL: IamtheChitt

A professional shop wouldn't install a switch. And you wouldn't be able to watch video unless your car was parked and the parking brake was engaged. But if you want to watch videos while driving, a switch or button is required. Also, it's pretty easy to hide it if you dont want anyone to see it.


Who are you to pass judgement as to whether I used a professional shop or not. In fact I did use a professional installer "as I originally posted". I used a pro because I did not want the hassle of trying to figure out the wiring as in this post. It was a job well done. The installer installed a switch as I requested. While I did not purchase this unit for DVD viewing, I wanted to be able to use all of the features. If I wanted to watch a DVD sitting still with the parking brake on, I would go in the house and see it on a big screen. Again I am glad my professional gave me an option.

I just think for that kind of money you should be able to use all the features the unit comes with. It should give you the options...not be set up from the factory as far as the dvd player part goes. I like things to be factory looking and a toggle switch even hidden is not what I want. I'm just one person though.

Well you are not going to be able to watch a DVD without the switch. I was told that it is this way by law. Supposedly some one in California killed themself while watching from the front seat, so a law was passed to restrict the rest of us. My installer did it discreetly. It may be against some law, but so is tinting your windows greater than a certain percentage and having a license plate on the front. I don't have a plate on the front cause I think it hurts the look of my car. I tinted to the percentage by law, and it is not dark enough. I will retint.
The switch is what I wanted to let me use that feature. If you find a way around using the switch I be interested in how you did it. Good luck!

ORIGINAL: oakman

Well you are not going to be able to watch a DVD without the switch. I was told that it is this way by law. Supposedly some one in California killed themself while watching from the front seat, so a law was passed to restrict the rest of us. My installer did it discreetly. It may be against some law, but so is tinting your windows greater than a certain percentage and having a license plate on the front. I don't have a plate on the front cause I think it hurts the look of my car. I tinted to the percentage by law, and it is not dark enough. I will retint.
The switch is what I wanted to let me use that feature. If you find a way around using the switch I be interested in how you did it. Good luck!



Ya could not be more wrong. It is illegal to be able to view moving video from the drivers seat. Putting a switch in to bypass the parking brake function does not make it legal, it makes it illegal. You can be pulled over and cited for this.

There was an accident where a man in alaska drifted over the center line and had a head on accident with an older couple, killing them both. They were really close to pressing murder charges if they could have proven that he was watching his DVD player. Don't be the dude that is the fist to have these charges pressed on them just for having the "option" of watching movies while driving, when really it is just to impress our friends and the ladies.

I could tell you how to bypass it, I just am not going to so that I can cover my ass........... its always about the CYA.........

OK, open your eyes wideand read what I said. I am not wrong. I agree it is illegal, but you are "assuming" you know what I want it for. You do know what assuming makes you? I have many music dvd's of bands in concert that I want to use while on trips. Anyone knows the drive had better watch the roadand not some little screen.
Perhaps my kids can watch a movie while on a trip. Whatever. I paid for the unit and I will use all of the options.
I thought these forums are about helping fellow stang owners with issues are they are dealing with about their cars. I was responding with comments about something I did to my car only a week ago. If you want to belittle somebody for trying to help - go somewhere else. It won't fly here.

when really it is just to impress our friends and the ladies.

I could tell you how to bypass it, I just am not going to so that I can cover my ass........... its always about the CYA.........
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By the way, I am old enough not to care about impressing anyone, let alone friends or ladies. I paid big bucks for the upgrade and install and I will use all of the features. Sounds like you are in the audio business and don't want to divulge a secret, that's cool with me.

Wooo didn't mean to start a bashing fest guys I just wanted a little help. No more worries though, I took the radio back tonight and I will put the money towards some other parts I wanted for the car. The Shaker works just fine for me for now. I do appreciate the help and advice from those that posted. Just to make one thing clear, I have kids and thought it would be nice for them to throw in a Disney movie when we were out running around. The other thing is I just appreciate Pioneer products, I've always used there radio and have the best luck with them. Thanks Again for your advice.

ORIGINAL: luvs2gofast

Wooo didn't mean to start a bashing fest guys I just wanted a little help. No more worries though, I took the radio back tonight and I will put the money towards some other parts I wanted for the car. The Shaker works just fine for me for now. I do appreciate the help and advice from those that posted. Just to make one thing clear, I have kids and thought it would be nice for them to throw in a Disney movie when we were out running around. The other thing is I just appreciate Pioneer products, I've always used there radio and have the best luck with them. Thanks Again for your advice.


No problem here, just don't like someone imposing their rules on others. Sorry it did not work out for you. You really, really would have enjoyed all of the features of this pioneer head unit. They went all out on this one. I agree with you about the Shaker, not bad, but it sounded a little muddy to me. But other posts in these forums say you can tweak the system to your liking. For me, I wanted to be able to get to my songs better and faster and with an Ipod controller attached, my whole library is accessible. The touch screens and different backgrounds are nice. Dvd feature was just a side benefit.
Know what you mean about other mods, go for it and make your stang unique to you. Roll on!

ORIGINAL: oakman


[quote]ORIGINAL: luvs2gofast

Wooo didn't mean to start a bashing fest guys I just wanted a little help. No more worries though, I took the radio back tonight and I will put the money towards some other parts I wanted for the car. The Shaker works just fine for me for now. I do appreciate the help and advice from those that posted. Just to make one thing clear, I have kids and thought it would be nice for them to throw in a Disney movie when we were out running around. The other thing is I just appreciate Pioneer products, I've always used there radio and have the best luck with them. Thanks Again for your advice.


No problem here, just don't like someone imposing their rules on others. Sorry it did not work out for you. You really, really would have enjoyed all of the features of this pioneer head unit. They went all out on this one. I agree with you about the Shaker, not bad, but it sounded a little muddy to me. But other posts in these forums say you can tweak the system to your liking. For me, I wanted to be able to get to my songs better and faster and with an Ipod controller attached, my whole library is accessible. The touch screens and different backgrounds are nice. Dvd feature was just a side benefit.
Know what you mean about other mods, go for it and make your stang unique to you. Roll on!




Calm down mang, not trying to be-little you and sorry if it came out that way. I didn't make the rule, it isn't mine and I am not enforcing it, but it is the law. I worked installing full time for almost 8 yrs before getting out of school and getting a new career, I do it part time for a local shop for the last 6 yrs. As a professional I cannot take the liability for hookin up somebodys video function so they can watch it while they drive, or giving info of how to online even. What if you or one of our friend on here is that 1rst guy to happen to have a wreck while watchin a video? Of course there is a written record of eveything I am typing now or have typed, whats gonna happen to me? It is illegal for me to wire somebody's stuff like that and it is just as illegal to give them step by step instructions on how to bypass it. You made it sound as if it was ok with a switch and I was quick to correct you because it is obvious that while you know your pioneer and all of its functions, you may not be getting the big picture of what you told him...............

In the end I will not loose any sleep over it, although I do not understand why you need to snap on everyone here. I was the 2nd person on just this post. Relax mang................

ORIGINAL: ttocs

ORIGINAL: oakman


[quote]ORIGINAL: luvs2gofast

Wooo didn't mean to start a bashing fest guys I just wanted a little help. No more worries though, I took the radio back tonight and I will put the money towards some other parts I wanted for the car. The Shaker works just fine for me for now. I do appreciate the help and advice from those that posted. Just to make one thing clear, I have kids and thought it would be nice for them to throw in a Disney movie when we were out running around. The other thing is I just appreciate Pioneer products, I've always used there radio and have the best luck with them. Thanks Again for your advice.


No problem here, just don't like someone imposing their rules on others. Sorry it did not work out for you. You really, really would have enjoyed all of the features of this pioneer head unit. They went all out on this one. I agree with you about the Shaker, not bad, but it sounded a little muddy to me. But other posts in these forums say you can tweak the system to your liking. For me, I wanted to be able to get to my songs better and faster and with an Ipod controller attached, my whole library is accessible. The touch screens and different backgrounds are nice. Dvd feature was just a side benefit.
Know what you mean about other mods, go for it and make your stang unique to you. Roll on!




Calm down mang, not trying to be-little you and sorry if it came out that way. I didn't make the rule, it isn't mine and I am not enforcing it, but it is the law. I worked installing full time for almost 8 yrs before getting out of school and getting a new career, I do it part time for a local shop for the last 6 yrs. As a professional I cannot take the liability for hookin up somebodys video function so they can watch it while they drive, or giving info of how to online even. What if you or one of our friend on here is that 1rst guy to happen to have a wreck while watchin a video? Of course there is a written record of eveything I am typing now or have typed, whats gonna happen to me? It is illegal for me to wire somebody's stuff like that and it is just as illegal to give them step by step instructions on how to bypass it. You made it sound as if it was ok with a switch and I was quick to correct you because it is obvious that while you know your pioneer and all of its functions, you may not be getting the big picture of what you told him...............

In the end I will not loose any sleep over it, although I do not understand why you need to snap on everyone here. I was the 2nd person on just this post. Relax mang................




Ok, ok we are cool, I understand, no hard feelings. Take care, keep rolling on!

:)

Oakman,
I never said that your pioneer was not installed by a professional. I was replying to luvs2gofast. But I would have to say that the professional who installed your unit was acting "unprofessionally" when he did the install because the switch he used is indeed illegal.
I installed professionally to get me through college. At my shop the professional thing to do is to abide by the law.

ORIGINAL: IamtheChitt

Oakman,
I never said that your pioneer was not installed by a professional. I was replying to luvs2gofast. But I would have to say that the professional who installed your unit was acting "unprofessionally" when he did the install because the switch he used is indeed illegal.
I installed professionally to get me through college. At my shop the professional thing to do is to abide by the law.

Well you know, good and reasonable Mustang owners can disagree. My reasons are well stated. I don't think my installer would appreciate you calling him unprofessional (he does this for a living day in and day out and not some part time to get me thru college thing). I find all of this funny cuz there are other posts on this forum from some installer telling some guy step by step how to install the "SECRET SWITCH". Posts on these forums tell other owners to install tinting that is "illegal". Posts that tell others to how to install aftermarket go fast gear that Ford deems to be "illegal". Some posts tell owners how to install audio gear that if the volume is turned up would violate most noise ordinaces in alot of neighborhoods - is that audio gear "illegal"? Many, many owners do not install the front license plate cuz somebody, somewhere says that is "illegal". I could go on but my fellow Stang owner, you get the point.
Bottom line is that you & I make the payments on our own cars and we will decide what goes in it or not. Right? Hey, but thanks for the lively discussion.

Well put actually. If you install something and you know its illegal then the only one paying the price is the owner. Trust me, I live in New Jersey and everything is against the law here when it comes to cars!!! People on here add tips to help out others thats all.

I think we are confusing things here. Compairing the potential damage that a switch wired to a screen is not the same as illeagal window tint, gears, or a loud radio as far as I am concerned. Giving someone step by step instructions on how to bypass this on here would have to be about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. I am not going to leave a trail of instructions with my name on it for everyone to read and I am amazed people come on here to ask. I am not going to give these instruction just like I am not gonna tell ya how to cook crack(even if I knew how).

"Bottom line is that you & I make the payments on our own cars and we will decide what goes in it or not. Right? Hey, but thanks for the lively discussion.
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I have the video function on my own DVD player bypassed because I know that I am not going to personally use it myself while driving, and have not done so after over a year. I/we do not know who we are dealing with when people come on here and ask. We could be giving instructions on how to do this to someone that is responsible as myself that undrestands the risks or it could be JR that just got his license and his dads credit card.

I had a kenwood dvd player in my old V6, and my installer just put it in so I could watch dvd's any time. I didn't need a switch at all. I think that he mentioned he just grounded the wire for the park brake. Not too sure though, I sold the car a while back.

ORIGINAL: ttocs

I think we are confusing things here. Compairing the potential damage that a switch wired to a screen is not the same as illeagal window tint, gears, or a loud radio as far as I am concerned. Giving someone step by step instructions on how to bypass this on here would have to be about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. I am not going to leave a trail of instructions with my name on it for everyone to read and I am amazed people come on here to ask. I am not going to give these instruction just like I am not gonna tell ya how to cook crack(even if I knew how).

I have the video function on my own DVD player bypassed because I know that I am not going to personally use it myself while driving, and have not done so after over a year. I/we do not know who we are dealing with when people come on here and ask. We could be giving instructions on how to do this to someone that is responsible as myself that undrestands the risks or it could be JR that just got his license and his dads credit card.

Man you just can't let it go can you? I am trying to be gracious to you and let you save a little face but you just keep buzzing around like a little gnat, don't you? Nobody cares if you want to keep the secret of "how to hook up some switch" to yourself. Some gestapo like group is not scouring these forums to find you and come after you for telling some one how to bypass something, and then drag you away in the middle of the night and take your mustang away. "We" aren't confusing anything. "You" are real confused. Fact is, too dark a tint is dangerous, just ask any police officer, when you can't see the other driver's eyes and read their intentions or when an officer makes a traffic stop and does not know what waits for him behind the dark glass. Loud audio gear wrecks the hearing of mainly younger people - read the statistics. Come on man, grow up and let it go! Keep your secret to yourself, their are plenty of installers who will take care of their customers.

ORIGINAL: luvs2gofast

Well put actually. If you install something and you know its illegal then the only one paying the price is the owner. Trust me, I live in New Jersey and everything is against the law here when it comes to cars!!! People on here add tips to help out others thats all.

Interesting, what's up with New Jersey laws? Why are they so prohibitive of what you do to a car? Some examples please. Later.

oakman,

i think you are just trying to find someone to argue with. lol... I have given members of this forum step by step instructions on how to install a switch. I never argued that it was a secret anyhow. Just in a professional setting, it is unwise to do so. If the person gets in a wreck while watching video, the install shop can be held liable. Not very smart. But you can't be liable for telling someone how to do it. And does it really matter if i installed to get through college? Lol...

ORIGINAL: oakman


ORIGINAL: luvs2gofast

Well put actually. If you install something and you know its illegal then the only one paying the price is the owner. Trust me, I live in New Jersey and everything is against the law here when it comes to cars!!! People on here add tips to help out others thats all.

Interesting, what's up with New Jersey laws? Why are they so prohibitive of what you do to a car? Some examples please. Later.


Here are some don't do in New Jersey:
No wiper washer lights on the hood
No tinting driver or passenger side windows--only back two if car is a 4 door & of course the rear window
No neon lights
No add on front lights that are hidden by a grille
No light covers
No neon or lighted license plate holders
Must have a front license plate
Must have cats on the exhaust but NO glass packs!!

Theres more I just can't think right now...most is simply ridiculous!!!

ORIGINAL: IamtheChitt

oakman,

i think you are just trying to find someone to argue with. lol... I have given members of this forum step by step instructions on how to install a switch. I never argued that it was a secret anyhow. Just in a professional setting, it is unwise to do so. If the person gets in a wreck while watching video, the install shop can be held liable. Not very smart. But you can't be liable for telling someone how to do it. And does it really matter if i installed to get through college? Lol...

Not trying to argue at all, just letting ttocs know to give it a rest. In fact, you are making my point, you have helped someone with step by step instructions on how to hook something up that they are asking advice for. Man I agree that if you are in the business, don't do it in a way that would jeopardize yourself. Hey, I am an Electrical Engineer and I am very hesitate to give out home electrical wiring instructions. Some guy would do it wrong and not according to the electrical code and blame me for it. I have to know to whom I am giving the advice to or actually help him to do the job, just provide lunch. In professional settings, I agree, you gotta be careful. But my "professional installer" did not write anything on the ticket for my switch install (just a shop material charge) and we mutually agreed that he was doing me a favor. I had already spent alot of money with him, the head unit, speaker changes and dynamat. But as a professional he probably sized me up and figured I was a responsible adult and would use the dvd responsibly and not take risks. Would he have done it for another person that as ttocs put it "just got his license and his dad's credit card", knowing this installer, probably not. Depends on who it is - you know!

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Here are some don't do in New Jersey:
No wiper washer lights on the hood
No tinting driver or passenger side windows--only back two if car is a 4 door & of course the rear window
No neon lights
No add on front lights that are hidden by a grille
No light covers
No neon or lighted license plate holders
Must have a front license plate
Must have cats on the exhaust but NO glass packs!!

Theres more I just can't think right now...most is simply ridiculous!!!
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Wow, tuff. You didn't say anything about gun racks LOL. I live in Texas you know.

who needs to give it a rest? I didn't feel a need to "save face" but I do feel a need to buzz around a little more.

Again compairing that your installer did it for you as a favor and posting general instructions on the net for anyone to read are different. I am not going to sit here typing as though I have never done it before after 10+yrs of installing professionally. If I think the person is responsible enough to use the equipment properly as I do I have done it. I think it is just irresponsible to give this info out to every little kid that has his learners permit, his daddy's stang and an internet connection. Would you want your kids driving your stang while trying to adj the video settings on the dvd player?

Don't scold me for giving responsible advise and compair me to an annoying bug. If you think you have a little more info then I do in the area of audio/video/security installation then hey, I bow down and will let you run with the ball to give responsible advise. I am willing to bet that since you had to sweet talk your installer to fix your video function that you are more like the annoying engineer that knows everything just like the ones I work with at my fulltime job(install is a side now since getting my degree in electronics). If you have good info to give here resposibly join the club. If you want to argue and they be-little the people that are on here giving good free info then like I said you can take over. After 10 yrs doing this I certainly do not need to give out what I have learned for free and I will not do it and be insulted at the same time.............

Whoa, got your blood up on that one eh? Glad to hear that you got a degree in electronics, congrats. Glad to hear that you are still installing audio gear. Sorry to hear you have a problem with engineers. No I am not an annoying engineer (can't speak for the ones you work with). I am a detail guy, that's what makes me good at my job. Also dealing with contractors day in and day out. I am old enough to know that I have learned there are some things I will do myself and some I won't. That is why I use professionals to get certain things done for me that I don't want to try myself. I used these forums to get educated about the gear I was planning to upgrade to. I learned of a bypass switch to be able to use all of the functions of my new unit. Did not have to sweet talk anyone, just mentioned it and my installer did it. I try to learn as much as possible so that I know enough not to be ripped off. Thank goodness for these forums cause I found out that you have to talk to several installers to find one that knows what they are doing, wouldn't you agree ttocs? Fortunately I had the money to invest in good gear and pro to install it. Please look at other posts, I am agreeing with you that it depends on who you are giving the information out too and by all means don't put yourself at risk.
Hey man, glad to see all of the advice you give others, sincerely. As a pro installer, you da man. It you want to wire up some really high voltage stuff - let's do it together! OK?

it was the nat comment.........

Yea you can have gun racks but they are really only good to lay fishing polls across!! No guns allowed!!

Hi,

I just got my avh-p6800 dvd and I am trying to figure a way around the parking brake sensor. I live in Norway and although lots of things are illegal, it's quite legal to play a dvd while driving. Might not be a good idea, but still..

I havn't tried to install the player yet, so I just want to share my thoughts about "disabling" the park brake sensor with you guys.

As far as I've figured, the park brake sensor turns off the disabling of playing dvds when the park brake is on, in other words when the park brake power circuit is closed. This means that when there is power on the park brake sensor cable, it should enable playing of dvds. Would it then be possible to connect this cable to the acc-cable instead? This would ensure power to the park brake sensor cable whenever the player is turned on - "fooling" the player to think to park brake is on.. What do you think about this?