. . . soyou dont consider the 911 turbo a sports car? What a fine back seat they boast.
I've had the displeasure of sitting in the back seat of a 911. It's a design after thought. The mustang back seat is much more substantial.
Anyways, it's my opinion that the Mustang does qualify as a sports car, back seat or not. You still haven't actually gotten anywhere trying to prove the 350z is a better sports car, since you're unable to differentiate between what is factual and what is simply someone elses opinion. But since you decided to bring it up, both edmunds.com and msn autos gave the new mustang a Higher expert rating than the 350z and if I remember correctly so did Consumer Reports. Most of those sources also use more objective grading scales along with some subjective grading compared to Motortrends use of a single editorial opinion.
You could try actually formulating a complete arguement rather than changing subjects, isolating small errors and throwing in quotes here and there. If you're going to be a troll, at least try a little harder.
Also, writing single line statements like this...
...doesn't make your posts any cleverer, or your car any faster.
I only talk numbers and from personal experience. Everything I have said I have put the numbers up to prove it. They are just a lot of ignorant people in these forums thats all. LIke I have said before the Gt is just a hair faster than the 350z (06+ model) stock for stock. It is a complete drivers race, I am just a little pissed about that guy that flamed me earlier in this post was the same guy posting in the dodge magnum srt-8 that a Stock GT will own a a stock srt-8 and that is just Impossible, the srt-8 is an auto so driver doesn't really matter as it does in our car.
Att. Andrew
lol, i read all your numbers... and what confuses me about you is that you have a decent list of mods, and because of that list i would assume you know what you are talking about AND if you installed your mods it would seem like you would be a cool guy to chill with, race with, etc.... but then you post up that the 350Z is a drivers race. Have you ever raced a stock 350Z while you were stock? because the only way its a drivers race is if the mustang driver is on the shoulder taking a piss. A stock GT with fat passengers can own a 350Z from a dig and a roll and that is PERSONAL experience. So how about you not post up like you know what you are talking about until you have actally raced mutiples of the cars in question. if you HAVE raced them and you still think its a drivers race then either they were driving gods or you suck
im sorry if that was a little harsh, but you posted up HP numbers that you prolly got from the manufacturers(if you had posted up RWHP i would have atelast given you credit for that) and never once said anything about EVEN having SEEN them raced. There is nothing wrong with posting up numbers and making a GUESS. But you posted up numbers and acted like that makes you actually know something about it. Sorry again
now before the 350 driver gets his panties in a wad, im not saying the mustang is better, at all. i mean, I PERSONALLY think they are, but thats me, and i understand thats not fact and completely a personal preference thing. But the only luxury item my mustang lacks is Navigation. Otherwise i would rather drive my stang over pretty much any other normal car. THe only DD i really want more is a BMW M6.
Notice my post before you start talking I narrow it down to the 06+ 350z not the pre 06 model 350z(even though some anniversary editions had the 300hp I believe). 06 vs gt is a drivers race, I have raced a few of them I walked the 03-05's but the 06 are a tad faster. I got to race a few before I started modding heavy. Yes I did all my mods but for some I had the help from my neighbor that has a lift in his garage lol. Really love to work on cars. Like I have posted before I run on the local SCCA Chapter and I am sponsored so I must be somewhat of a decent driver ;). I drive evo's though not stangs they are no new stangs running yet here locally. BTW I street race a lot, I could scan most of the my tickets to prove it haha.
Why are you comparing 03's. The 05+ stang is by far the fastest ever produced(except the special stangs) the new Z isn't slow but it isn't really fast.
there are people out there with 03 stangs and 03 350z's still
No ****. Earlier you were comparing the new stang vs a new Z. The 2003 model has just about the same amount of HP if not the same as the 2004 and 2005; 2006 having +13 HP and ~10 Torque.
But the 2005+ stang has ~55 more Ponies than a new edge. So you are comparing an older stang with less power to a car who has the same specs.
this is a member on this sit, EVO's STI's 350Z's and M3's are all biting the dust, since you ignored the post last time, so in a straight line they get owned, and no matter how many articles you post, the video above is what ultimately happens in the twisties
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