1 mod and the 350z will dominate. 3.9 ring and pinion. . . takes the z to 4.5 zero - 60. . . not sure on the 1/4 mile times but believe me . . . I will let you know.
1 mod and the 350z will dominate. 3.9 ring and pinion. . . takes the z to 4.5 zero - 60. . . not sure on the 1/4 mile times but believe me . . . I will let you know.
When you start adding mods to the equation it's a whole different deal.
Don't turn this into an "x mod will make me faster" pissing match.
1 mod and the 350z will dominate. 3.9 ring and pinion. . . takes the z to 4.5 zero - 60. . . not sure on the 1/4 mile times but believe me . . . I will let you know.
Actually 4.10's would beat the **** out of a that.
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1 mod and the 350z will dominate. 3.9 ring and pinion. . . takes the z to 4.5 zero - 60. . . not sure on the 1/4 mile times but believe me . . . I will let you know.
Actually 4.10's would beat the **** out of a that.
and just think an S197 with 4.10's, that likes to rev, and has more torque anyway
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"The Mustang’s torque-to- weight of 182 lb-ft/ton is only a bit higher than the Nissan’s 170, but combine this with a flatter torque curve and you can feel the difference. You can, of course, keep the revs up on the 350Z and get some cracking good power coming out of a turn, but there’s something lovely about being able to ask the Mustang for power at any moment and get it. Rather lazy, this approach, but quite fun."
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"The Mustang’s torque-to- weight of 182 lb-ft/ton is only a bit higher than the Nissan’s 170, but combine this with a flatter torque curve and you can feel the difference. You can, of course, keep the revs up on the 350Z and get some cracking good power coming out of a turn, but there’s something lovely about being able to ask the Mustang for power at any moment and get it. Rather lazy, this approach, but quite fun."
whats the deal with this "torque to weight" thing. i mean, im guessing just like power:weight, except for torque:weight, but ehh.....i work on Z's all day long dude. im a Nissan tech. the 'Stang is faster. period. the Z sucks from a stop. trust me get 'em higher up, and theyre like every other import. good from a roll. but, then again, roll racing, isnt that.......its just speeding. haha. BUT, i do like Z's, just id rather have a 'Stang. i really dont see spending $26k on a USED 350Z(the one that is on our lot), when i could buy a BRAND NEW GT, built the way i want for under $30k, with warranty. i just dont see it being smart. thats all.
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"The Mustang’s torque-to- weight of 182 lb-ft/ton is only a bit higher than the Nissan’s 170, but combine this with a flatter torque curve and you can feel the difference. You can, of course, keep the revs up on the 350Z and get some cracking good power coming out of a turn, but there’s something lovely about being able to ask the Mustang for power at any moment and get it. Rather lazy, this approach, but quite fun."
whats the deal with this "torque to weight" thing. i mean, im guessing just like power:weight, except for torque:weight, but ehh.....i work on Z's all day long dude. im a Nissan tech. the 'Stang is faster. period. the Z sucks from a stop. trust me get 'em higher up, and theyre like every other import. good from a roll. but, then again, roll racing, isnt that.......its just speeding. haha. BUT, i do like Z's, just id rather have a 'Stang. i really dont see spending $26k on a USED 350Z(the one that is on our lot), when i could buy a BRAND NEW GT, built the way i want for under $30k, with warranty. i just dont see it being smart. thats all.
Torque is the big factor in the 1/4. You could make a pretty good stang for 30k. You could either go F/I or make one sick Bolt-On.
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"The Mustang’s torque-to- weight of 182 lb-ft/ton is only a bit higher than the Nissan’s 170, but combine this with a flatter torque curve and you can feel the difference. You can, of course, keep the revs up on the 350Z and get some cracking good power coming out of a turn, but there’s something lovely about being able to ask the Mustang for power at any moment and get it. Rather lazy, this approach, but quite fun."
12 lb-ft/ton is still more, so you didn't really prove him wrong if that was your intent. Not to mention that's based on peak numbers and the Mustang has torque over a wider power band.
As for the previous post, no one was comparing handling. The 350Z does handle better stock for stock.
Quit trying to stir things up. If you have something interesting to discuss, go for it. Your little one liner pokes and jabs just seem like pointless backhanded attempts to start some stupid "my car is better than yours" flame-war.
"The Mustang’s torque-to- weight of 182 lb-ft/ton is only a bit higher than the Nissan’s 170, but combine this with a flatter torque curve and you can feel the difference. You can, of course, keep the revs up on the 350Z and get some cracking good power coming out of a turn, but there’s something lovely about being able to ask the Mustang for power at any moment and get it. Rather lazy, this approach, but quite fun."
12 lb-ft/ton is still more, so you didn't really prove him wrong if that was your intent. Not to mention that's based on peak numbers and the Mustang has torque over a wider power band.
As for the previous post, no one was comparing handling. The 350Z does handle better stock for stock.
Quit trying to stir things up. If you have something interesting to discuss, go for it. Your little one liner pokes and jabs just seem like pointless backhanded attempts to start some stupid "my car is better than yours" flame-war.
Hese just keeping his pimp hand strong. I kind of like stupid posts, I love arguing.
Why any one would think that 350 Z's are fast is beyond my belief. Procharger is right across the street from my house and they have one with 14lbs of boost through a p1sc and it runs 13.20's at 107 with slicks
So?? a friend of mine has a black 06 with 23lbs of boost putting 712 RWHP and I can get the dyno sheets to prove it.
Att. Andrew
So?? No one seems to care about you friends 06 with 23lbs of boost, so no need to prove anything. Its funny Andrew, all you seem to ever do is defend OTHER makes and models in your posts, you should seriously consider getting a car you like and join a forum in which you can enjoy discussing it.
All cars can be made fast, Most people in here just think that our mustang is the last coke in the desert. I do have other cars but I do know what the other cars are capable. I know a stock gt is no match for a stock srt-8 who ever thinks so prob also pays someone to install their CAI. a 06+ 350z vs a 05+gt is a DRIVERS RACE the cars are just about equal. The 06 350z is 300 hp @ 6.2k with a 7k rpm redline and Weights 3,200-3,350 our Gt is 300hp @ 5.7k with 6,250 redline and weights at around 3,500 lbs, We do have a torque advantage though. The cars are almost equal like I said. I just hate it when people go up and down about how the GT burns every other car in production. I am still waiting to see someone say they owned a z06 c6 vette with just intake, exhaust, gears and tune. That will be the day, prob has been said already though.
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C'mon man, apples and oranges...apples and oranges. Don't be dumb like that!
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I only talk numbers and from personal experience. Everything I have said I have put the numbers up to prove it. They are just a lot of ignorant people in these forums thats all. LIke I have said before the Gt is just a hair faster than the 350z (06+ model) stock for stock. It is a complete drivers race, I am just a little pissed about that guy that flamed me earlier in this post was the same guy posting in the dodge magnum srt-8 that a Stock GT will own a a stock srt-8 and that is just Impossible, the srt-8 is an auto so driver doesn't really matter as it does in our car.
im just layin down the facts with no personal opinion . . . Z is the better sports car. . .
That is only true, because a Mustang isn't a sports car(4 seats), but otherwise that would still be an opinion. For instance, saying a 350Z is a better sports car than a Mazada MX-5 is still by definition an opinion, even if most people (including me) would agree with your opinion.
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I only talk numbers and from personal experience. Everything I have said I have put the numbers up to prove it. They are just a lot of ignorant people in these forums thats all. LIke I have said before the Gt is just a hair faster than the 350z (06+ model) stock for stock. It is a complete drivers race, I am just a little pissed about that guy that flamed me earlier in this post was the same guy posting in the dodge magnum srt-8 that a Stock GT will own a a stock srt-8 and that is just Impossible, the srt-8 is an auto so driver doesn't really matter as it does in our car.
I agree. Though I am hesitant to start calling people ignorant. I haven't been posting here very long, but I use numbers and personal experience myself. In fact someone tried to dog me on referencing a personal experience.
I haven't seen too many unreasonable claims about the Mustang GT here, barring, like you said a stock GT owning a stock SRT-8. I don't think it is unreasonable to say the Mustang is typically quicker in the straights than a 350Z, and that the 350Z handles better given a competent driver who knows how to take curves. That has been pretty much accepted as given for a long time now.
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I only talk numbers and from personal experience. Everything I have said I have put the numbers up to prove it. They are just a lot of ignorant people in these forums thats all. LIke I have said before the Gt is just a hair faster than the 350z (06+ model) stock for stock. It is a complete drivers race, I am just a little pissed about that guy that flamed me earlier in this post was the same guy posting in the dodge magnum srt-8 that a Stock GT will own a a stock srt-8 and that is just Impossible, the srt-8 is an auto so driver doesn't really matter as it does in our car.
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lol, i read all your numbers... and what confuses me about you is that you have a decent list of mods, and because of that list i would assume you know what you are talking about AND if you installed your mods it would seem like you would be a cool guy to chill with, race with, etc.... but then you post up that the 350Z is a drivers race. Have you ever raced a stock 350Z while you were stock? because the only way its a drivers race is if the mustang driver is on the shoulder taking a piss. A stock GT with fat passengers can own a 350Z from a dig and a roll and that is PERSONAL experience. So how about you not post up like you know what you are talking about until you have actally raced mutiples of the cars in question. if you HAVE raced them and you still think its a drivers race then either they were driving gods or you suck
im sorry if that was a little harsh, but you posted up HP numbers that you prolly got from the manufacturers(if you had posted up RWHP i would have atelast given you credit for that) and never once said anything about EVEN having SEEN them raced. There is nothing wrong with posting up numbers and making a GUESS. But you posted up numbers and acted like that makes you actually know something about it. Sorry again
now before the 350 driver gets his panties in a wad, im not saying the mustang is better, at all. i mean, I PERSONALLY think they are, but thats me, and i understand thats not fact and completely a personal preference thing. But the only luxury item my mustang lacks is Navigation. Otherwise i would rather drive my stang over pretty much any other normal car. THe only DD i really want more is a BMW M6.