I'm so printing out janine's picture and spanking to it tonight... yessssssssssssssss
That picture?
I think this one would be a little better for that.
You guys are all about mental images!
Crazy!
Lol... you thought you had guys PMing you before...you just opened the flood gates there
You got to be kidding me! With those two BS pictures? Mr Rogers say he had to "Wipe" off his screen after looking at them.
you missed his 'point' then
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OH! Okay. Now I see the point. Wow. I thought those pictures were beautiful. Never thought they would be used that way. I guess guys will be guys. I guess the selection was wrong. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't realize it.
OH! Okay. Now I see the point. Wow. I thought those pictures were beautiful. Never thought they would be used that way. I guess guys will be guys. I guess the selection was wrong. Thanks for letting me know. I didn't realize it.
I've been tempted to throw the B.S. sign on the death, but didn't However... after that little statement, I definitely will...
I dont know what all you have done to your car but why not just buy an 03/04 Cobra and invest in it?
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Janine - if you want to hang with a supercar, go buy one. You can throw $100,000 at your Mustang and it will be just that. $100,000 Mustang. There is no comparing the 2 and nothing you can do to a Mustang will make it a supercar. If you don't come to grips with the fact that there is always going to be something faster out there, you're never going to be happy.
Buy one? $450K. I am only 22. Between my two jobs -- one full time the other part time Saturday afternoon for 4 hours -- I only make around $74k a year. In NYC this an okay salary but nothing extraordinary. Look, I can handle a 10 or 15k upgrade on my Mustang for a TT -- and pay cash-- but buying a Supercar -- at this point in my life -- is out of the question.
I like the 700 hp 2001 Mustang with 4V engine in the video you showed me. Do you think 20k would buy the engine and everything involved to make 700 streetable HP? The rest of my Mustang is totally upgraded to handle the additional power.
I dont know what all you have done to your car but why not just buy an 03/04 Cobra and invest in it?
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ORIGINAL: janine
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ORIGINAL: BicketyBam
Janine - if you want to hang with a supercar, go buy one. You can throw $100,000 at your Mustang and it will be just that. $100,000 Mustang. There is no comparing the 2 and nothing you can do to a Mustang will make it a supercar. If you don't come to grips with the fact that there is always going to be something faster out there, you're never going to be happy.
Buy one? $450K. I am only 22. Between my two jobs -- one full time the other part time Saturday afternoon for 4 hours -- I only make around $74k a year. In NYC this an okay salary but nothing extraordinary. Look, I can handle a 10 or 15k upgrade on my Mustang for a TT -- and pay cash-- but buying a Supercar -- at this point in my life -- is out of the question.
I like the 700 hp 2001 Mustang with 4V engine in the video you showed me. Do you think 20k would buy the engine and everything involved to make 700 streetable HP? The rest of my Mustang is totally upgraded to handle the additional power.
I think the 03/04 Cobra will one day be the classic of classics. The 4V engines is the modern day Hemi of yester year. Many feel the 4V is the best PRODUCTION engine ever built. No other engine is amenable to mods like the 4V -- the smallest modification yields such great gains. With that said, the Cobra is a very good investment.
However, I already put 21k into my Mustang in aftermarket parts and labor. I paid 26K cash for it in May 2002 for a combined total of 47K. I am not crying about that. My Mustang is well worth it. I say this because I recently drove a bone stock 02 GT and there is a considerable difference in ride, feel, handling and power. So, I did get my money worth.
HP is addicting. I went up in power in increments. Each time, I felt that rush every time I floored it. But after while, that rush began to diminish. So I did something else to get that adrenline flowing again. This went on and on for 2 years until I reached the point I am at now -- 458 rwhp/479 TQ. Respectable power for the street. Hard to argue.
Even with that kind of HP, I still get beat every now and then and I don't like how that feels. Now I am looking for a little more HP. This vicious cycle progresses and progresses. What I am eluding to is that I am in it with my Mustang for the long run. To go Cobra now is counter productive and self defeating and extremely costly. Not only do I have to shell out 25 to 30k for a good 03/04 Cobra, but also for mods. So were are talking about 45k and a whole new set of "cause and effect" trials that can be very expensive. 45k is 18 months savings for me. No can do.
I learned somthing, we all can't have everything we desire. We need to be happy with what we have.
< Message edited by janine -- 9/22/2006 9:58:28 PM >
Yeah, you're looking at it the right way. You'll never get the money back that you invested in your Mustang if you decided to sell it to get a Cobra, which is fine. Just keep on going with the mods if you're getting bored with the power ^_^ Your block has plenty of legs left in it, push it a little more ;)
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2007 Acura TL Type S 2001 Lexus IS300 - Gone but not forgotten 2004 2.8L STI - 565 awhp/510 ft lbs on 110 leaded - SOLD!
Yeah, you're looking at it the right way. You'll never get the money back that you invested in your Mustang if you decided to sell it to get a Cobra, which is fine. Just keep on going with the mods if you're getting bored with the power ^_^ Your block has plenty of legs left in it, push it a little more ;)
My DSS built engine has 3212 miles on it. I am running a Vortech 3.25" pulley that gives 10 psi. Perhaps a 2.87 pulley will give me 2 more psi or even 3 psi -- due to the effect of the Anderson Power Pipe. Maybe 500 rwhp is doable that way?
Do you know what kind of car you could have had for $47k? For beginners, a Cobra that would be putting down well over 500 rwhp with a KB setup.
There is a point of diminishing returns for that GT and you've hit it. You are going to have to spend a disproportionate amount of money for added HP.
Yes, I pondered that for a lone time. But understand this: back in 2002, the great Cobra didn't exist. If it did, I would have had one. I went GT and got deeper and deeper. Done. Here I am. No crying. Just wanna go forward with it.
What do yo think you could get for your car as it sits now? Just curious.
What I can get for it and what it is worth is two different things. I put 21k into my Mustang. This includes a new Built DSS Long Block designed for blower applications -- 8.5 compression etc. Yet, IF I want to sell, I would be looking at 18k. More IF I found someone with $$$ who lust for the car.
Selling has never entered my mind. Not for 18k. Never.
Eh, you'd be surprised Ed. I sold my decently modified 2004 WRX for 17.5k, and that thing was fully loaded with sunroof, heated seats, premium sound, etc. The built motor might help her if she decided to sell (which doesn't sound like it will happen), but you just can't get the return out of it that you will ever want.
Hell, I saw one of the world famous 7 second 1/4mile street-driven Supras go for like 50 or 60k on Ebay.. which is a STEAL considering a used, TT Mark IV Supra I've seen for around 30k.
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you actually thought you could take out a Carrera GT with only 460RWHP.....
Good death though...
Look, I seen Porsches before and beat them out. But I never seen a Carrera GT nor read about them. I have not interest in them. I thought is was a 350 hp car and could beat it. I had no notion whatsoever that it packed over 600 hp and weighted 600 lbs less than my Mustang.
Like usual, I looked foolish.
edited since i had nothing nice to say...
< Message edited by turbostang21 -- 9/23/2006 1:50:10 AM >
Eh, you'd be surprised Ed. I sold my decently modified 2004 WRX for 17.5k, and that thing was fully loaded with sunroof, heated seats, premium sound, etc. The built motor might help her if she decided to sell (which doesn't sound like it will happen), but you just can't get the return out of it that you will ever want.
Hell, I saw one of the world famous 7 second 1/4mile street-driven Supras go for like 50 or 60k on Ebay.. which is a STEAL considering a used, TT Mark IV Supra I've seen for around 30k.
I wonder how many miles are on the body. I still think that 18k is way too low.
btw janine for as much as i/we bust on you for making comments like "upgrade your plastic pistons"...it's very cool you are into modded mustangs
"Plastic Pistons" So sorry of Ford to be so cheap with the entire GT series. They could of at least make forged aluminum pistons an $800 option -- or even a built block an option. I think a lot of GT buyers had "supercharge" in the back of their minds when they purchased their GT. The forged option would have sold.
The Cobra's block is built. Yeah, I know, Ford supercharged engines from factory get the forged treatment. GT's were not meant to be blown and therefore given cheap "plastic pistions" and a cheap plastic intake.
Even the 06/07 GT 3v get plastic. Such a fine engine. Sad. Those engines when blown make nice power -- too much for plastic pistons. There will be problems down the line. Mark my words.
Eh, you'd be surprised Ed. I sold my decently modified 2004 WRX for 17.5k, and that thing was fully loaded with sunroof, heated seats, premium sound, etc. The built motor might help her if she decided to sell (which doesn't sound like it will happen), but you just can't get the return out of it that you will ever want.
Hell, I saw one of the world famous 7 second 1/4mile street-driven Supras go for like 50 or 60k on Ebay.. which is a STEAL considering a used, TT Mark IV Supra I've seen for around 30k.
I wonder how many miles are on the body. I still think that 18k is way too low.
The speedometer has 14,300 and change. Actual miles. The body is pristine. But what does miles mean? I changed everything. This is what I done:
Maximum Motor Sports Coilover Suspension. Koni shocks and struts. Adjustable.
Maximum Motor Sports Caster Chamber Plates
Steeda blue sway bar. Front.
Brembo Gran Turismo Big Brake Kit. 13" rotors 4 piston calipers
Full Length subframe connectors -- welded
Alburn gear
31 Spline Axles
3:73 ring Ford racing
Steeda control arms
Ford Racing Aluminum Driveshaft
03 Cobra Polished Aluminum Wheels 17 x 9
Mickey Thompson Drag Radials 275 x 40 x 17
Magnaflow exhaust, Magnaflow catted X pipe, BBK short headers
Cobra Tank. 2 Focus SVT 255 LPM pumps. Cobra Ring (to house pumps) 1" fuel line. Aluminum fittings and filter. New wiring (thicker wire to support more amps for pumps)
42lb. injector -- need upgrade to 60 with additional power increase.
DSS Built engine (all the best stuff inside) 8.5 compression ratio. Stage 2 CNC ported PI heads, with large valves.
Stage II cams
Anderson Power Pipe
Vortech Charger and Aftercooler. 3.25 pulley
P51 intake with fuel rails
ProM 80mm
BBk 75mm TB
Build AODe tranny: wide ratio planitary gear kit (combined with 3.73 gears give 4.31 to 1 first gear and 4.11 to 1 second gear. 3 and 4 gears remain stock), shift kit, harden shaft, valve body upgrade, cooler and 3200 rpm stall converter (can only go up to 2500 before wheels break).
6 dyno tunes along the lines
Autometer Cobalt gagues: Boost, Fuel Pressure, D-Pic, Air/Fuel, water temp, Pyrometer, and 5" Tach.
Viper shift light
Top of line Alpine receiver, speakers, amp amd Kenwood subwoofer.
Optima Yellow Top Battery with trunk mount.
Viper Alarm
Roadlinks GPS
This doesn't include all the other stuff I put on and had taken off. I call this trial and expermentation. For example, I purchased 3 cat backs before I found one I liked. Two different sets of rings, different pulley sizes, etc.
< Message edited by janine -- 9/23/2006 5:53:59 PM >
btw janine for as much as i/we bust on you for making comments like "upgrade your plastic pistons"...it's very cool you are into modded mustangs
"Plastic Pistons" So sorry of Ford to be so cheap with the entire GT series. They could of at least make forged aluminum pistons an $800 option -- or even a built block an option. I think a lot of GT buyers had "supercharge" in the back of their minds when they purchased their GT. The forged option would have sold.
The Cobra's block is built. Yeah, I know, Ford supercharged engines from factory get the forged treatment. GT's were not meant to be blown and therefore given cheap "plastic pistions" and a cheap plastic intake.
Even the 06/07 GT 3v get plastic. Such a fine engine. Sad. Those engines when blown make nice power -- too much for plastic pistons. There will be problems down the line. Mark my words.
janine there is no such thing as plastic pistons i've told you before and joked with you hoping you'd at least take a hint...but it's still obvious you didn't. find someone or someplace else to get your information. you're talking about hypereutectic pistons (i hope)....they are still an alloy and can be made from different metals. the major benefit of forged pistons over hyper is that if detonation occurs a forged piston will usually melt....minimizing the damage to the engine. hyper pistons tend to crack and break and the pieces can cause catastrophic damage to the entire engine. an engine with forced induction is more prone to detonation so that is why you want forged pistons. please read this again and let it soak in
btw janine for as much as i/we bust on you for making comments like "upgrade your plastic pistons"...it's very cool you are into modded mustangs
"Plastic Pistons" So sorry of Ford to be so cheap with the entire GT series. They could of at least make forged aluminum pistons an $800 option -- or even a built block an option. I think a lot of GT buyers had "supercharge" in the back of their minds when they purchased their GT. The forged option would have sold.
The Cobra's block is built. Yeah, I know, Ford supercharged engines from factory get the forged treatment. GT's were not meant to be blown and therefore given cheap "plastic pistions" and a cheap plastic intake.
Even the 06/07 GT 3v get plastic. Such a fine engine. Sad. Those engines when blown make nice power -- too much for plastic pistons. There will be problems down the line. Mark my words.
janine there is no such thing as plastic pistons i've told you before and joked with you hoping you'd at least take a hint...but it's still obvious you didn't. find someone or someplace else to get your information. you're talking about hypereutectic pistons (i hope)....they are still an alloy and can be made from different metals. the major benefit of forged pistons over hyper is that if detonation occurs a forged piston will usually melt....minimizing the damage to the engine. hyper pistons tend to crack and break and the pieces can cause catastrophic damage to the entire engine. an engine with forced induction is more prone to detonation so that is why you want forged pistons. please read this again and let it soak in
I stand corrected. I didn't know hypereutectic pistions were made from alloys. I thought they were a plastic base.
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you actually thought you could take out a Carrera GT with only 460RWHP
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i've told you before and joked with you hoping you'd at least take a hint...but it's still obvious you didn't. find someone or someplace else to get your information. you're talking about hypereutectic pistons (i hope)....they are still an alloy and can be made from different metals. the major benefit of forged pistons over hyper is that if detonation occurs a forged piston will usually melt....minimizing the damage to the engine. hyper pistons tend to crack and break and the pieces can cause catastrophic damage to the entire engine. an engine with forced induction is more prone to detonation so that is why you want forged pistons. please read this again and let it soak in
