RE: How do you no if your a Ricer?
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/1/2007 7:02:31 PM
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mustang_pa
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/16/2007 9:31:48 PM
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To the guy who says that our muscle cars don't las very long, I hate to burst your bubble but my 1982 5.0 mustang has 312,000 on it's original engine and it still runs strong.
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/16/2007 10:06:46 PM
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Oh, this is so easy....No one in my typical middle-class neighborhood gets a woody when all the high school boys with their rice-grinders drive over to see the horny little cheerleader a few doors down. HOWEVER, when I back my 90 GT 5 spd with mods out of the garage they all spill there coffee on their slippers, wish just once I would let them do a big smoky burn-out with it, drop a Blue Oyster Cult CD in and head out on the highway..........
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/19/2007 11:24:30 PM
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hey evoVII, do you think your funny?
3 words for you dude: don't smoke crack!!!!!
< Message edited by 02 GT -- 1/19/2007 11:26:23 PM >
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/29/2007 2:15:53 PM
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dynamho
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StoneWolf and HomerSimpson15, to me, seems to be the sane ones in this funny thread.
We've got import fanbois that seem to be declaring superiority of forced induction and domestic muscle fanbois declaring the superiority of torque and big displacement.
There are many ways to make power (categorized into 3 different ways), each w/ their advantages and disadvantages. Horsepower is directly proportional to the amount of fuel combusted per time.
1. burn it with a larger combustion chamber (big displacement)
2. burn it by cramming more air (which needs more fuel) into the combustion chamber (FI)
3. burn more by burning faster (high RPM NA engines - VTEC and rotaries)
Each method is a valid way of getting HP and each has its disadvantages.
Big Displacement = heavy engine = heavier car
FI = comparatively numb throttle modulation
HiRPM NA = weak low-midrange output
Research if you wanna know more.
HP is well and good, but what happened to the rest of the car? Where's the discussion on vehicle dynamics? If you want to debate, debate the whole car please, and not just the engine.
BTW, KTownGT, your statement of "HP isn't everything... Torque Wins Races" is pretty vague and misleading.
1. What type of race are you talking about? There are so many kinds of races! I assume you're talking about drag racing?
2. It's not really engine torque that wins drag races, but how much SUSTAINED torque a car puts to the driving wheels. The sustained part is important because that's what HP does. You can increase torque with gearing and wheel size. If you what you say is true, diesel heavy equipment and semis would be winning drag races across the country.
BLackie, I found your comment regarding the bomb distasteful and irrelevant. Couldn't come up with a more logical argument?
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/29/2007 9:59:47 PM
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99.9% of street raceing is in a straight line. Who the hell cares about other performance? Truely I dont Id rather have a nice drag/street car rather then some ricer witha giant wing and fart can attempting to drift and saying that a Honda Accord is fast....
Speed is speed pure and simple. If a car is fast then its fast. I could really care less what type of motor you have. But thats just me.
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 1/30/2007 12:54:48 AM
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dynamho
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ORIGINAL: Redneck97
99.9% of street raceing is in a straight line.
Only in our country.
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ORIGINAL: Redneck97
Who the hell cares about other performance?
Quite obvious you don't. Apparently, unlike you, Ford cared to inject some money into the rest of the performance for the S-197 Mustangs. Somehow, I feel that you would be happier if Ford invested that money instead on a bigger supercharged engine while settling for skimpy brakes and sedan shocks all around.
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Id rather have a nice drag/street car rather then some ricer witha giant wing and fart can attempting to drift and saying that a Honda Accord is fast....
I'd rather have neither. I'd rather have a performance car.
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ORIGINAL: Redneck97
Speed is speed pure and simple.
Speed or acceleration? Please don't get the two mixed up.
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ORIGINAL: Redneck97
If a car is fast then its fast.
I agree. This has little reflection on the driver's skill. It only proves that the driver owns a faster car.
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ORIGINAL: Redneck97
I could really care less what type of motor you have. But thats just me.
Hmm. I'd try a jet engine!! That would rock! Unbeatable in a straight line. Put some wheels on it. King of the Streets!
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 2/6/2007 7:38:17 PM
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that is damn funny, but oh so true
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 2/14/2007 3:48:09 PM
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I would never trade my mustang for any kind of rice rocket but I do have to admire SOME of them. I see a guy out at the track with a 99 hatchback civic with slicks on the front. At first I thought, oh great another civic that thinks hes fast. That was until he ran a 10.2. It blew my mind. I still love the purr of a v8 though
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 2/25/2007 9:54:41 PM
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First off let me say that mustangs always have and always will be my favorite but. I have a friend who a couple of hours ago lost to a BoostStang, with a stock EVO 8(exhaust, intake) I'll try to get the video up but. The same friend has a 88 RX7 that puts 355 to the wheels and beats 911 turbos on the highway. Nothing beats the feel or sound of a V8, but everyone here has to have some respect for some of these cars. I.E. Skylines, Supras, 3000GT's, EVO's. I mean there all 4-6 cylinders and capable of easily 1000hp. Im not sayin you have to like them but you have to atleast respect them.
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 2/25/2007 9:57:42 PM
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i forgot to say he lost by no more than 1 maybe a car and a half. You can try to make up any excuse, but both cars had a near perfect launch, quick shifts, and both had 1 person each in the car.
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 2/26/2007 7:42:30 PM
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thats o so true!
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 3/1/2007 11:59:45 AM
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ok ive read some of these posts and i woud just like to state that there are some nice I4's and v6 's but you guys havent mentioned that horsepower sells cars and torque wins races. take a look at a buick gnx they have close to a little over 200 horse but they have over 300 torque. they run mid to low 13's stock. not bad. just thought id put in some info. im basically neutral in this except for the "punk attitude" thats y i am building an s10 with a 350 that has some tricks done to it. that should beat ALOT of the little hondas =]
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 3/3/2007 6:14:26 PM
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Before I chime in let me throw some persepective, I do not have a mustang but I own a 73' Dodge Charger SE , I also have a 3000gt, and a 99 Eclipse RS with a Hahn stage 4 turbo on a bored over 4cyl.. I have a 4cy, 6cyl, and 8cyl. I love them all, but you have to know where to apply them.
Now as for this thread, yes naturally v8's stock push more hp and tq, however Ford is supercharging thier mustang to make it keep up, just as other are using TT's. Set aside how n why, look to application.
when you get to 1300hp on a vr4 which you can do for just over 10k, by supercharing it and using the TT's. Thomas Knight.com put it out, so its not so hard to achieve now. An AWD veh can and will apply its hp/tq to the ground with much more efficiency then any RWD Mustang , Dodge, Corvette or other wise. I am not being biased I am being realistic. Further more you take that 500hp mustang on to a mountain and try to apply the power and a stock VR4 with 320hpTT AWD will eat it for lunch cornering.
Now for the other side, there is just no replacement for raw Muscle, I can let go of my the steering wheel on my charger at the line.. drop my foot and roast the rubber till if falls off; and it will rise up, settle down and tear dead forward. My 5.0 Back end went way right everytime I broke loose... (thats my personal complaint about mustangs, light in the a$$). However, what V8's do very much do better then TT's is apply instant power when ever. I am not saying you cant have your TT spooled up ready to launch, what I am saying is you can be criusing at 35mph in any gear in your V8 and romp the gas and instant BAM your at 95mph shifting into 3rd. no spool up time at all ( At least thats how my 73 Charger moves.)
The point in burly 4cyl's is to have a light car that pulls the same kind of times your heavy american v8's pull and do it while getting 20mpg in gas., and having the comfort in knowing your little motor can do what big motors do (yes built little motor to stock big motor)
Now 6 cyls I think some of you underestimate dramatically. IF 6 cyls were making 6liter 6 cyls eating monsterous amounts of gas they could put out the same 350+ hp. But if you notice the 3.0- 3.5L 6 cyls NA put out 220 - 250 hp. Which is the same kind of hp a stock 289 or 302small block puts out. Lets see here thats a 4.7 L or a 5.0 L V8 putting out the same power as a 3L or 3.5L V6 both N/A. (more cylinders does not mean more juice)
More Cubic inches means more juice!!!!! Case in Point.
(why dont 6's make the blocks bigger then? Cause its more efficient to use turbos, supercharges, and technology to make the power rather then massive engine blocks) If you take all these cars you are talking about, then put them in a 24 hour road race the gas guzzlers would get F'd. And for what? The idea it gets more power? How much more? Where can it really be applied? Is that advantage going to make up as much time as an extra pit stop for fuel?
Any how,
My Charger only pushes abouty 450hp, but shes like a roller coaster with out a track, I will never ever sell her.
My 3000gt is a nice ride and my commuter, its nice to have a commuter thatll do 140mph.
My Eclipse pushing 300fwp is a toy, just that a toy and could be sold at any given time for upgrades to the charger or 3kgt.
Every one of them has thier place, some are more worth keeping then others, some are harder to replace.
Hope my opinions didnt ruffle any feathers, I am not on one side or the other when it comes to engine size. More over who knows how to take advantages of their machine of choice and exploit them for the win!
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RE: How do you no if your a Ricer? - 3/3/2007 6:24:04 PM
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lol. I think that alot of the ppl signing onto this site just to defend the use of 4 and 6 cyl performance applications are still overlooking the simple fact that this thread is largely just a joke meant to poke fun at all the "poser" guys who bling out their rides to make 'em look fast..........without ever bothering to actually "make" them fast. And FWIW, u don't have to drive just a 4 banger or a Japanese car to fit into the "ricer" category............not anymore anyway. Equal opportunity.....yay.
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