Im sure they all sit around and lie about it...why, isnt that how you mustang guys run these mid/low 13's that I HAVE NEVER SEEN!? Most 05's run 14's where I am...maybe YOU ARE ALL LYING TOO!? HOLY CRAP!? Get serious. It is what it is, some freak drivers in a mustang GT can pull low 13's and some freak drivers in a GTO can pull high 12's. Deal with it.
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i think so far that everyone agrees that the GTO is faster. also. i said it is mid 13 car in the heat, which in return would mean that in better weather = low 13's.
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im with this guy. i have not seen one run better thena 13.9@101. but at the same time i have not seen a GT run better then a 14.0@100. but have heard that they are both faster then that, which i do believe. which i only seen them run in the summer, so in good weather, they are both solid mid 13 cars.
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I've personally have yet to see a Stock Gto run below 13.7.Take for what it's worth.You'll here alot of guys on here give advice from what they read in mags. etc.Or what they see a GTO Dyno at means absolutley nothing.Get out to the track and see for yourself.The GTO does have a nice motor but it's a pig and hard to get it to hook.Stock fo stock the Mustang will walk the GTO.Anyone who say's otherwise have not seen the cars enough in person.(Case in point the newbie GM hippo who seems to think the GTO is a half second faster LMAO)This ia what I'm referring to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR3CWpQIdic ^^^3 car lengths before second gear^^^
Not here to start any wars, just provide some info as i do have time behind the wheel of both of these cars and can tell you that the GTO will KILL a mustang GT stock for stock. If you do more searching you will find many people with STOCK GTO's running lower 13's over on the LS1forums! Don't find that here without mods! Yes there are people also running 14's and 15's also, just like here too, driver skill and track conditions are everything! Like I said before, i had the popular mods on my GT and it still wasn't up to the GTO stock! And as far as the torque comment winning races, your out gunned again by 75ft/lbs at much lower rpms with the GTO. I could really care less who would win races between the two as so many factors will decide the outcome. But to listen to people glorify what they have and not know the competetion based on what others done or in videos, thats just foolish! All things equal, the GTO will win every time, thats why car magazines do these test, to keep all things equal! When they do those shoot-outs, its on the same track with the same drivers in the same conditions. I'd love to see ya post a link for that were the GT out ran the GTO! Sorry for the rant but some people don't want to hear the truth, yeah i realize people bleed blue here but they also have to be openminded that there are other muscle cars that are always going to be faster and many even faster than a GTO! But hey, thats what mods are for!
One last time GO TO THE TRACK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU READ ONLINE.I could inflate my numbers claim to be stock but that doesn't make it fact.How do proffesional drivers get that car running 13.5 but theses guys rub 12's.Start thinking for yourself.and take off the blinders.
A little math for all of you. 05 GT= 3550# with a full tank of gas. The GTO is around 3850 with a full tank of gas. So we are talking 300# difference, ANY way you slice it (you race with 1/4 tank? reduce both weights accordingly).
Now...if your 280whp car can run a 13.3-4 like you people love to tell me, then WHY cant a car that weighs 300# more but makes a full 60whp more run high 12's? Yeah, LS2 GTO's lay down around 340 at the rollers. So tell me, I show you timeslips, I show you videos (or links to them) and I give you the numbers. If you cant accept it then it is your own ignorance saving your ego a bruising. I cannot enlighten that one.
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weather is cooling off now, here in the next 3 months all cars should be producing some good numbers. hopefully guys from this site will make an effort to go to the track and see what there car runs. and post back THERE results.
One last time GO TO THE TRACK AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.ENOUGH OF WHAT YOU READ ONLINE.I could inflate my numbers claim to be stock but that doesn't make it fact.How do proffesional drivers get that car running 13.5 but theses guys rub 12's.Start thinking for yourself.and take off the blinders.
I saw a sorry ass driver pulling 2.4 60's run 13.7@104. I showed you a timeslip with a damn good driver pulling a MEAN 60' and running 12.9@106. Sorry you cant understand that one. Its the driver mod. Yeah, I saw a lot of 05 GT's at the strip, they ran mid 9's in the 1/8th mile, or low 14's if you translate it. So I guess all your car is good for is a mid/low 14 huh? because thats all I saw and im very closed minded so ANYTHING you tell me to the contrary MUST BE A LIE! you are all liars with 14 second cars!!!!
Seriously...grow up, you would get your ass hammered by the GTO LS2. Accept it, its a fact.
weather is cooling off now, here in the next 3 months all cars should be producing some good numbers. hopefully guys from this site will make an effort to go to the track and see what there car runs. and post back THERE results.
If a time stands unopposed on LS1tech.com It is pretty sure to be legit. That forum runs like a well oiled machine and is moderated VERY! well (no offence JD, they just have more mods and more time on their hands). I would trust a time from LS1tech before I trusted a time posted here. Besides, they got a video of the 12 second passes.
Maybe you missed the link were the Mustang pulled 3 lengths on the goat video.I suspect youv'e never even been to a track in person.If you have you would see for yourself the GTO is to heavy to run with the Mustang.I personally raced a 05 GTO than ran 14.5 and 14.3.Time slips were posted earlier this summer.My Mustang has never been to the track Stock so I couldn't tell you what a conv would put down.But Iv'e seen other GTO race at Milan here in Michigan and have yet to see a stock GTO run mid 13's PERIOD.My heart gets pumpin alot faster when I line up with an LS1 Camero or Vette than a LS2 GTO have never personally lost to one and have never seen one run mid 13's stock.Saw a charger srt8 run low 13's twice but never a GTO.Your post is completley ignorant.
Ignorance is thinking you know it all! I don't claim to know all,lol! But quit watching races and drive the two cars for yourself! One test drive of a new GTO will answer any questions you'll have. That will keep the driver mod the same and you a$$ will tell you which one flattens it the most. No i didn't get to run my GT on the track as they won't let verts on without a roll bar, so going by my own trials! I can say that the tires on a GTO suck, and is alot of why they are hard to hook-up. Guys with stock goats on drag radials are under 13 sec. Changing the tires on a stock stang still won't come close to 12's as you can see here. Don't take my word for it, go over to LS1 forums and see for yourself. Those people are just as honest as any here! Just trying to give you guys facts. There are people that get 14's, 15's and even 16's with vettes and vipers too, so your stock stang is faster than those cars? Drivers can give cars a really poor image, but the car usually has alot more potential, so don't judge all from seeing a few!
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Maybe you missed the link were the Mustang pulled 3 lengths on the goat video.I suspect youv'e never even been to a track in person.If you have you would see for yourself the GTO is to heavy to run with the Mustang.I personally raced a 05 GTO than ran 14.5 and 14.3.Time slips were posted earlier this summer.My Mustang has never been to the track Stock so I couldn't tell you what a conv would put down.But Iv'e seen other GTO race at Milan here in Michigan and have yet to see a stock GTO run mid 13's PERIOD.My heart gets pumpin alot faster when I line up with an LS1 Camero or Vette than a LS2 GTO have never personally lost to one and have never seen one run mid 13's stock.Saw a charger srt8 run low 13's twice but never a GTO.Your post is completley ignorant.
Ignorance is thinking you know it all! I don't claim to know all,lol! But quit watching races and drive the two cars for yourself! One test drive of a new GTO will answer any questions you'll have. That will keep the driver mod the same and you a$$ will tell you which one flattens it the most. No i didn't get to run my GT on the track as they won't let verts on without a roll bar, so going by my own trials! I can say that the tires on a GTO suck, and is alot of why they are hard to hook-up. Guys with stock goats on drag radials are under 13 sec. Changing the tires on a stock stang still won't come close to 12's as you can see here. Don't take my word for it, go over to LS1 forums and see for yourself. Those people are just as honest as any here! Just trying to give you guys facts. There are people that get 14's, 15's and even 16's with vettes and vipers too, so your stock stang is faster than those cars? Drivers can give cars a really poor image, but the car usually has alot more potential, so don't judge all from seeing a few!
+1 but these guys here (some of them) dont want the truth, they want to stroke off over the 4.6L's and block out the fact that they arent as bad as they think they are.
You have a GTO? I challenge any 05 06 Stock GTO against me.I'm in Michigan and run at milan on WED afternoons.There isn't a Stock GTO that can hang with my Mustang PERIOD..
It think no one is lying. Some people can only manage low 14's in as GTO cuz they suck at driving. Some people can manage high twelves and low 13's cuz they are insane drivers. Everyone always says the biggest mod is driver mod, this is just proof.
I think the 4.6 3v motor is o.k. in stock form, but is a very good motor with mods! That is the basic point to the original question! How will a STOCK 05' GT compare? It is in a different league until you get all the bolt ons, then it can play with the GTO, GIVEN EQUAL DRIVER ABILITIES!
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Maybe you missed the link were the Mustang pulled 3 lengths on the goat video.I suspect youv'e never even been to a track in person.If you have you would see for yourself the GTO is to heavy to run with the Mustang.I personally raced a 05 GTO than ran 14.5 and 14.3.Time slips were posted earlier this summer.My Mustang has never been to the track Stock so I couldn't tell you what a conv would put down.But Iv'e seen other GTO race at Milan here in Michigan and have yet to see a stock GTO run mid 13's PERIOD.My heart gets pumpin alot faster when I line up with an LS1 Camero or Vette than a LS2 GTO have never personally lost to one and have never seen one run mid 13's stock.Saw a charger srt8 run low 13's twice but never a GTO.Your post is completley ignorant.
Ignorance is thinking you know it all! I don't claim to know all,lol! But quit watching races and drive the two cars for yourself! One test drive of a new GTO will answer any questions you'll have. That will keep the driver mod the same and you a$$ will tell you which one flattens it the most. No i didn't get to run my GT on the track as they won't let verts on without a roll bar, so going by my own trials! I can say that the tires on a GTO suck, and is alot of why they are hard to hook-up. Guys with stock goats on drag radials are under 13 sec. Changing the tires on a stock stang still won't come close to 12's as you can see here. Don't take my word for it, go over to LS1 forums and see for yourself. Those people are just as honest as any here! Just trying to give you guys facts. There are people that get 14's, 15's and even 16's with vettes and vipers too, so your stock stang is faster than those cars? Drivers can give cars a really poor image, but the car usually has alot more potential, so don't judge all from seeing a few!
1. Your ass can't tell .5 second difference...LOL
2. What track won't let you run your vert? NHRA and IHRA rules require nothing until 11.99. you running 11.99?
Either i have a sensitive ass or its more than a half second then, lol! The track by me is in Kaukana and i was hanging with a few stang members and they told me not to waste my time as they tried taking their vert on the track and was told no roll bar, no run!
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So you claim your GTO is a couple of clicks faster?But you have never had the stang to the track?Less we forget it's stock and heavier than a coupe Gt.I personall have never seen a 04 05 06 GTO run 13.5 or lower.And have spent alot of hours at the track unlike alot of internet racers.I've never claimed to be something I wasn't I am a realist.Was the first one here to come clean about loseing to the Charger srt8.Can only base my opinions on what I SEE not what I read.Or my brother in laws mother had a GTO and sold it and it beat mustangs all day until she sold it to the milk man who put some bolt on's on and has it in nascar now.
Hey, theres the humor! You guys get wayyyyy to serious over this stuff. Act like your losing money in the stock market or something when someone has a faster time slip than yours, lol! Hey just take it for whatever its worth, people ask questions, they get answers with facts (time slips and test info) not some joe blow that just bought this car with twice as many cylinders as they had before and made a moccary out of himself at the track!
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