Well, just got back from PowerHouse!!!! I must say, they are a great shop, never recommend something you don’t need, very helpful, answer your questions. And hanging out with Nav (another 4.0 owner) was cool too, unfortunately we didn’t have enough time to close the bar. Oh well…next time….

Anyway, thought I would post the list of modifications for this visit to PH, as follows:


· Precision Industries Torque Converter @ 3400RPM
· AEM Wideband install
· PowerHouse driveshaft w/safety loop
· K-Member Brace w/Engine TQ Limiters
· PH Panhard Bar
· TA Girdle

That’s it, oh, almost forgot….

· 11PSI Spring install!!!!
· Dyno tune for 11PSI

It’s time to get serious here, 4.0L SC’s going built motors, people hitting kick ass times on street tires…..so be it. The arms race continues……

….and don’t worry, I’m not beyond a built motor either….LOL, I may just have to look into that…or maybe I have already…..

I pick up the car next Saturday, and plan to hit Thompson Dragway the same day to see how she does.

You are the Greek god of the Mustang community. Congrats man! You'll be hanging with Z06 vettes and Lambos soon.

11 psi....can you say 400hp rygen? when you gonna drive to michigan and take me for a ride?

Thanks guys. I will be in MI for FFW next track season.

Holy Moly... any idea what you have invested in this ride yet? How can the 4.0L take such abuse?? Have you blown an engine yet?

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Holy Moly... any idea what you have invested in this ride yet? How can the 4.0L take such abuse?? Have you blown an engine yet?


Havent blown my engine yet, but I think I may have found a built 4.0 block that can take even more abuse. As for investment, well, I made a lot of mistakes early on, but after selling all of my old parts and recouping the mistakes, I was at the price of the GT I wanted when I got stella with performance and appearance packages. With this round of modifications, it has pushed me a little past that price. If you take the appearance mods out, I'm now matching the price.

I'll do a break down of cost after I catch up on all the threads this morning.

Also, keep in mind that lb for lb, boost is not the same for Turbo vs. SC. For engine stress, me running 8.5lbs of boost was more like a SC running 6lbs of boost. So, being at 11lbs of boost on the Turbo is more like an SC at 9lbs of boost.

Well, just got back from PowerHouse!!!! I must say, they are a great shop, never recommend something you don’t need, very helpful, answer your questions. And hanging out with Nav (another 4.0 owner) was cool too, unfortunately we didn’t have enough time to close the bar. Oh well…next time….

Anyway, thought I would post the list of modifications for this visit to PH, as follows:


· Precision Industries Torque Converter @ 3400RPM
· AEM Wideband install
· PowerHouse driveshaft w/safety loop
· K-Member Brace w/Engine TQ Limiters
· PH Panhard Bar
· TA Girdle

That’s it, oh, almost forgot….

· 11PSI Spring install!!!!
· Dyno tune for 11PSI

It’s time to get serious here, 4.0L SC’s going built motors, people hitting kick ass times on street tires…..so be it. The arms race continues……

….and don’t worry, I’m not beyond a built motor either….LOL, I may just have to look into that…or maybe I have already…..

I pick up the car next Saturday, and plan to hit Thompson Dragway the same day to see how she does.


Glad you went to 3400 over the 3000 GOOD decision, running a stall is also going to be a lot more fun to run at the track with the turbo and for some fun on the street!
The almost forgot 11psi post actually made my jaw drop (I thought maybe 9.5 or 10 psi ) Mr 8.5psi consevitive at first.LOL
Yep IMO you will put some distance now between you and the S/C boys more likely out of reach for a while and will most likely take a built motor to catch you on a stock motor!






Havent blown my engine yet, but I think I may have found a built 4.0 block that can take even more abuse. As for investment, well, I made a lot of mistakes early on, but after selling all of my old parts and recouping the mistakes, I was at the price of the GT I wanted when I got stella with performance and appearance packages. With this round of modifications, it has pushed me a little past that price. If you take the appearance mods out, I'm now matching the price.

I'll do a break down of cost after I catch up on all the threads this morning.

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Could give a little more (some?) details on the motor you found along with what year it is?

You didn’t make any mistakes IMO it was R&D’ing you were doing and really was a lot of help IMO to us last year.


Also, keep in mind that lb for lb, boost is not the same for Turbo vs. SC. For engine stress, me running 8.5lbs of boost was more like a SC running 6lbs of boost. So, being at 11lbs of boost on the Turbo is more like an SC at 9lbs of boost.

Great post on the above agreed IMO less pressure on the bottom end the turbo doesn’t have to produce the higher unseen hp per S/C to produce dyno rated seen (s/c) rwhp this is one of the reasons that makes the turbo so attractive to me and makes it such a great match for the 4.0 using stock bottom end. One other thing I like IMO it makes full boost by 2900 and done making power by 5300!!!

Well rygen I never like to over estimate but in this case I will you might just might be the first (non pro) in the 11’s and not running at 12 psi, Hmmm wonder if Mike is setting up a very fat tune for you this first round or maybe not just a good safe tune for you to go for it. LOL


GOOD LUCK!!!

Rygen i would just like you to know.....Your my idol lol. You have one bad a$$ street machine. If only i had the budget to put half the parts on my car that you have lol.

Rygen could you post the Dyno sheet next week along with the AFR would be really interested to see it.

I am trying to resist buying a turbo and you are not helping!

Thanks guys!!!!

@TJ,

Thanks for all the input. Powerhouse uses a Mustang Dyno, so if you are ok with that instead of a Dynojet, then sure! I found a SSM block, just stock compression, but stronger internals for even more boost. I spoke to the wife, and we are putting some cash aside if I pop the motor. LOL. I did a bit of research and I don't like the idea of stroker or messing with the timing chains for these 4.0's. I'd rather just have a super strong motor and throw more boost at it. Less to configure, simpler and yeild the results I want.

I think 11's may be a stretch without drag shocks and some weight reduction. I'm not ready to do drag shocks on my daily driver, I need to call Scrming up and ask him how his long distance drives are on the drag shocks. I will also need to do the front BMR sway bar delete kit, and lighter rims. I think it's doable, but got some more to do to pull it off in an auto.

Yea, 12's with the turbo at 8.5psi....hard to resist. The Boss is still 2-3 years out, and the only other car I would consider is the TA concept, which isn't confirmed yet. So I'd figure I'd have fun with the 6 and suprise some people with it.

@TJ,


I'll put it simply....

....get the turbo man. I know you will make very very good use of it!

i dont even know what to think... im drulling

congrats rygen.. i dunno i think you can taste the 11's

when will i be able to purchase th ph turboo do u kno?

I would call PH, last time I heard was the mail order kits are going out next month.

Can't post alot now, but that's awesome!!! Gonna be a long week for you I bet.

@TJ,

Thanks for all the input. Powerhouse uses a Mustang Dyno, so if you are ok with that instead of a Dynojet, then sure! I found a SSM block, just stock compression, but stronger internals for even more boost. I spoke to the wife, and we are putting some cash aside if I pop the motor. LOL. I did a bit of research and I don't like the idea of stroker or messing with the timing chains for these 4.0's. I'd rather just have a super strong motor and throw more boost at it. Less to configure, simpler and yeild the results I want.

I think 11's may be a stretch without drag shocks and some weight reduction. I'm not ready to do drag shocks on my daily driver, I need to call Scrming up and ask him how his long distance drives are on the drag shocks. I will also need to do the front BMR sway bar delete kit, and lighter rims. I think it's doable, but got some more to do to pull it off in an auto.

Yea, 12's with the turbo at 8.5psi....hard to resist. The Boss is still 2-3 years out, and the only other car I would consider is the TA concept, which isn't confirmed yet. So I'd figure I'd have fun with the 6 and suprise some people with it.




Wow can’t believe it (every one says their going stroker) I totaly agree with you no stroker no way for me either if I was pop the motor just a built straight 4.0! I would want to keep it simple (due to this 4.0 design) and go easy on this 4.0 motor design, and also from my research going stroked possible side load pressure and wear on the piston might have to rebuild after 15K -20K
I am a firm believer in larger C.I. (but really even stoked where you going c.i wise know what I mean)
but would make exception on a rebuild on this 4.0 and go straight 4.0 only.

Agree with you on your comment on the 11’s.

I am thinking high 12’s @9.5psi would be there on street tires with a stick no problem. Keep in mind EX-13 ran a 13.10 on street tires with the turbo @ 9.5psi and it was just months ago I was explaining to him on another forum what power shifting is and how to do it. His 13.10 run on street tires was another thing that was inspiring to me about this turbo. So a experienced power shifter with track experience will be able to run high 12’s on street tires at 9.5psi most likely mid 12’s on DR’s. No offense Ex-13 meant (I don’t even think he comes to this forum) if you read this,
That reminds me Rygen you need to correct something on your website, you have E-13 at 8.5psi should be 9.5psi.





Finally found something I can disagree with you on, :) In regards to your response on the Boss they are supposed to produce it late 07 possible not a 07 model but 08 . You can start ordering 08’s in June of 07 for 08’s or 2nd run would be ordering late 07 for the 08 Boss which means delivery the latest 1st or 2nd qtr 08. By my calculations possible in about 8-10 months the latest is 14-17 months out. If you have any info that that its going to be 2-3 yrs could you let me know or post.

I'll fix my web site, LOL. Thanks.

As for the Boss. I have no new info, wow, only a year to a year and a half out. Ok, well I will be signed up.

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Thanks guys!!!!

@TJ,

Powerhouse uses a Mustang Dyno, so if you are ok with that instead of a Dynojet, then sure!



Question for you, I know the Mustang dynamometer shows (heard other people give % estimates and some say as high as 15%) a lower rwhp reading than we are use to seeing on a regular dynojet in sae.

What would you in say in your opinion is the % is needed to add to your rwhp rating on a Mustang dynamometer to compare to a SAE dynojet rating?

I am just not clear on this one.

All the research I have found shows the difference is 10-12% for FI cars for the calculation for SAE on a dyno jet.

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

All the research I have found shows the difference is 10-12% for FI cars for the calculation for SAE on a dyno jet.


The difference we seen with my car was 12%...

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

All the research I have found shows the difference is 10-12% for FI cars for the calculation for SAE on a dyno jet.



Ok thanks rygn( & scrming) then that is what I am going to use in my calculations next week, you know if I remember correctly E-13 manual dyno at 328 rwhp at 9.5psi and Fazm said it was 368 rwhp on a dynojet and at the time I thought Fazm was a little high in his estimate, but you know what he wasn’t wow 368 rwhp at only 9.5 psi.
Rygen In post #16 I meant high 12's at 9.5psi I edited it now to read correctly

You know I sure hope Mike doesn’t have a sale on these PH IC turbo’s for guys like us who already have a X cal 2 say $4100.00 because that means I would have to make a trip down to my bank for a cashiers check. :)

what do you guys think of the non intercooled kit running say 7-8 psi??? it seems like with the numbers you are making right now rygen, the non intercooled could still make some pretty big numbers at low boost, but how are the temps without the ic? Im not looking for a rocket ship, but the x-charger just got to expensive for what you get and now im looking at other options.

ORIGINAL: 8cd03gro

what do you guys think of the non intercooled kit running say 7-8 psi??? it seems like with the numbers you are making right now rygen, the non intercooled could still make some pretty big numbers at low boost, but how are the temps without the ic? Im not looking for a rocket ship, but the x-charger just got to expensive for what you get and now im looking at other options.



Its 285rwhp@7psi non-intercooled IMO I wouldn't run 8 psi without an intercooler.

And here I was thinking I was gonna be able to compete with you N/A ;)

where can I get that stall converter?

Well, got an update on the work. Looks like Percision has to modify my stall to fit the V6, so its two months out. It's unfortunate as this will probably put me past race season. But its the first one, so I don't mind.

However, not all is lost. Percision is reworking my stock stall and adding 200-300 RPM (so hoping I can launch at 2800rpm, we will see) to it so I can at least improve my launches this season. So I'm very excited about that.

Also, for the TA Girdle, its been discussed before but wanted to remind people that you need a panhard relocation bracket in order to clear the 7.5 rearend. I only know 2-3 owners that have one and they had to have one. I'm going with the PH/CHE piece on this, but BMR also makes the bracket.

I'm hitting Thompson this saturday, but I'm not holding my breath, because that track is 1500 and the track I usually go to, Mason Dixon in MD is at 600ft above sea level. So I think my best times this season will be down there in the weeks to follow.

As soon as I get the drive shaft in, and other goodies I will provide a full report.

Racethis (handle of another 4.0L owner) thinks I should look into drag shocks. So I am now really thinking hard on those to.

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And here I was thinking I was gonna be able to compete with you N/A ;)

where can I get that stall converter?


You seem to be a track junkie, like a lot of us. I'm sure you will catch up. :)

You can get a stall from TCI or Percision, but everyone I talked to swears by Percision. They are stronger, and can be custom configured/built to your car. For the Percisiion piece, they needed my dyno data to build it.

You can also have your stock one reworked if you only want a few hundred RPM.

can't wait to hear about your track day!!

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

Well, got an update on the work. Looks like Percision has to modify my stall to fit the V6, so its two months out. It's unfortunate as this will probably put me past race season. But its the first one, so I don't mind.

However, not all is lost. Percision is reworking my stock stall and adding 200-300 RPM (so hoping I can launch at 2800rpm, we will see) to it so I can at least improve my launches this season. So I'm very excited about that.

Also, for the TA Girdle, its been discussed before but wanted to remind people that you need a panhard relocation bracket in order to clear the 7.5 rearend. I only know 2-3 owners that have one and they had to have one. I'm going with the PH/CHE piece on this, but BMR also makes the bracket.

I'm hitting Thompson this saturday, but I'm not holding my breath, because that track is 1500 and the track I usually go to, Mason Dixon in MD is at 600ft above sea level. So I think my best times this season will be down there in the weeks to follow.

As soon as I get the drive shaft in, and other goodies I will provide a full report.

Racethis (handle of another 4.0L owner) thinks I should look into drag shocks. So I am now really thinking hard on those to.



I can’t believe this WT* two months!

I wanted to see this car with the stall with the rest of package of upgrade all together I am pissed dam! I (IMO) wouldn’t even run it at 1500 feet I’d wait a week or so till MD but that just me I would want apples to apples condition right off the bat for testing get that nice surprise with the right conditions. :)

I am so pissed about that stall I was looking so forward to this setup. Rygen I went over a few things I am seeing a dip in the elevens very possible (aleast on the day you ran 12.82 ) when you get the stall in two months w/3400 stall due along with the below.

1. 11 psi over 8.5psi good for about 70rwhp more.
2. Light weight drive shaft 9( on a GT the JPC DS (19lb) saves 26lb not sure what your DS saves but if similar nice!)
3. 3400 stall
4. The K member brace , (I believe this is similar as BMR (8lb) which saves around another 24lbs should .

Your ET 11.95-12.20 in two months. Good Luck

Then you still have a lot left in the arsenal just some below.
1. 1-3 more psi (28-75 more rwhp )I say up two 3 cause PH is running 14 psi or working on it so may be in your future .
2. Shorter gears
3. Skinnies
4. Trans
5. Remove Cats or high flow
6. 2 stage setup like you use to talk about but at a risk



I have some questions for you if you don’t mind

You know you going to hit or exceed 400rwhp (dynojet) next week ( wow can’t believe it) have you looked into new fuel pump and putting the fuel pump or your stock one on its own (line) breaker/fuse?

Rygen did you talk to Mike about running a mech or electronic boost knob?

I was also wondeing (and his response) did you ask Mike if it is possible to use the 11psi tune on 8.5psi or 9.5psi for DD via the boost knob?
Or do you have install a 8.5 psi tune first?

What size are you DR’s what is the height?

Did you ever calculate what the gear ratio comes out to with the height of the DR's your running?


You know you gear is now coming into focus now and raises questions esp if the ET is low if you know what I mean not bad so far.

I had more questions and comments but didn’t save the original Looooong post in word and lost it.

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

Well, got an update on the work. Looks like Percision has to modify my stall to fit the V6, so its two months out. It's unfortunate as this will probably put me past race season. But its the first one, so I don't mind.

However, not all is lost. Percision is reworking my stock stall and adding 200-300 RPM (so hoping I can launch at 2800rpm, we will see) to it so I can at least improve my launches this season. So I'm very excited about that.

Also, for the TA Girdle, its been discussed before but wanted to remind people that you need a panhard relocation bracket in order to clear the 7.5 rearend. I only know 2-3 owners that have one and they had to have one. I'm going with the PH/CHE piece on this, but BMR also makes the bracket.

I'm hitting Thompson this saturday, but I'm not holding my breath, because that track is 1500 and the track I usually go to, Mason Dixon in MD is at 600ft above sea level. So I think my best times this season will be down there in the weeks to follow.

As soon as I get the drive shaft in, and other goodies I will provide a full report.

Racethis (handle of another 4.0L owner) thinks I should look into drag shocks. So I am now really thinking hard on those to.



I can’t believe this WT* two months!

I wanted to see this car with the stall with the rest of package of upgrade all together I am pissed dam! I (IMO) wouldn’t even run it at 1500 feet I’d wait a week or so till MD but that just me I would want apples to apples condition right off the bat for testing get that nice surprise with the right conditions. :)

I am so pissed about that stall I was looking so forward to this setup. Rygen I went over a few things I am seeing a dip in the elevens very possible (aleast on the day you ran 12.82 ) when you get the stall in two months w/3400 stall due along with the below.

1. 11 psi over 8.5psi good for about 70rwhp more.
2. Light weight drive shaft 9( on a GT the JPC DS (19lb) saves 26lb not sure what your DS saves but if similar nice!)
3. 3400 stall
4. The K member brace , (I believe this is similar as BMR (8lb) which saves around another 24lbs should .

Your ET 11.95-12.20 in to months. Good Luck

Then you still have a lot left in the arsenal just some below.
1. 1-3 more psi (28-75 more rwhp )I say up two 3 cause PH is running 14 psi or working on it so may be in your future .
2. Shorter gears
3. Skinnies
4. Trans
5. Remove Cats or high flow
6. 2 stage setup like you use to talk about but at a risk



I have some questions for you if you don’t mind

You know you going to hit or exceed 400rwhp (dynojet) next week ( wow can’t believe it) have you looked into new fuel pump and putting the fuel pump or your stock one on its own (line) breaker/fuse?

Rygen did you talk to Mike about running a mech or electronic boost knob?

I was also wondeing (and his response) did you ask Mike if it is possible to use the 11psi tune on 8.5psi or 9.5psi for DD via the boost knob?
Or due you have install a 8.5 psi tune first?

What size are you DR’s what is the height?

Did you ever calculate what the gear ratio comes out to with the height of the DR's your running?


You know you gear is now coming into focus now and raises questions esp if the ET is low if you know what I mean not bad so far.

I had more questions and comments but didn’t save the original Looooong post in word and lost it.






i don't know about 2.5 more psi being good for another 70rwhp, that seems high to me, but im not sure. The driveshaft will help him put a decent amount more power to the ground. Hell even if it only frees up a few percent of his power, he will still be making that across the entire span of the rpm's and it is definately stronger than our stocker, so thats one less thing to worry about. I can see mid-low 12's. Damn good man, you need to put some track times of your car with a vid of your engine on streetfire to represent us. I saw the vid of you and umm excepcion13? i think thats his name.... People were saying, "ha, look the turbo 6 still couldnt take that bolt on gt" because they thought you were a gt and wouldnt accept that you were another turbo 6! I get excited whenever you get a new mod. Keep us updated!

ORIGINAL: 8cd03gro

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

Well, got an update on the work. Looks like Percision has to modify my stall to fit the V6, so its two months out. It's unfortunate as this will probably put me past race season. But its the first one, so I don't mind.

However, not all is lost. Percision is reworking my stock stall and adding 200-300 RPM (so hoping I can launch at 2800rpm, we will see) to it so I can at least improve my launches this season. So I'm very excited about that.

Also, for the TA Girdle, its been discussed before but wanted to remind people that you need a panhard relocation bracket in order to clear the 7.5 rearend. I only know 2-3 owners that have one and they had to have one. I'm going with the PH/CHE piece on this, but BMR also makes the bracket.

I'm hitting Thompson this saturday, but I'm not holding my breath, because that track is 1500 and the track I usually go to, Mason Dixon in MD is at 600ft above sea level. So I think my best times this season will be down there in the weeks to follow.

As soon as I get the drive shaft in, and other goodies I will provide a full report.

Racethis (handle of another 4.0L owner) thinks I should look into drag shocks. So I am now really thinking hard on those to.



I can’t believe this WT* two months!

I wanted to see this car with the stall with the rest of package of upgrade all together I am pissed dam! I (IMO) wouldn’t even run it at 1500 feet I’d wait a week or so till MD but that just me I would want apples to apples condition right off the bat for testing get that nice surprise with the right conditions. :)

I am so pissed about that stall I was looking so forward to this setup. Rygen I went over a few things I am seeing a dip in the elevens very possible (aleast on the day you ran 12.82 ) when you get the stall in two months w/3400 stall due along with the below.

1. 11 psi over 8.5psi good for about 70rwhp more.
2. Light weight drive shaft 9( on a GT the JPC DS (19lb) saves 26lb not sure what your DS saves but if similar nice!)
3. 3400 stall
4. The K member brace , (I believe this is similar as BMR (8lb) which saves around another 24lbs should .

Your ET 11.95-12.20 in to months. Good Luck

Then you still have a lot left in the arsenal just some below.
1. 1-3 more psi (28-75 more rwhp )I say up two 3 cause PH is running 14 psi or working on it so may be in your future .
2. Shorter gears
3. Skinnies
4. Trans
5. Remove Cats or high flow
6. 2 stage setup like you use to talk about but at a risk



I have some questions for you if you don’t mind

You know you going to hit or exceed 400rwhp (dynojet) next week ( wow can’t believe it) have you looked into new fuel pump and putting the fuel pump or your stock one on its own (line) breaker/fuse?

Rygen did you talk to Mike about running a mech or electronic boost knob?

I was also wondeing (and his response) did you ask Mike if it is possible to use the 11psi tune on 8.5psi or 9.5psi for DD via the boost knob?
Or due you have install a 8.5 psi tune first?

What size are you DR’s what is the height?

Did you ever calculate what the gear ratio comes out to with the height of the DR's your running?


You know you gear is now coming into focus now and raises questions esp if the ET is low if you know what I mean not bad so far.

I had more questions and comments but didn’t save the original Looooong post in word and lost it.






i don't know about 2.5 more psi being good for another 70rwhp, that seems high to me, but im not sure. The driveshaft will help him put a decent amount more power to the ground. Hell even if it only frees up a few percent of his power, he will still be making that across the entire span of the rpm's and it is definately stronger than our stocker, so thats one less thing to worry about. I can see mid-low 12's. Damn good man, you need to put some track times of your car with a vid of your engine on streetfire to represent us. I saw the vid of you and umm excepcion13? i think thats his name.... People were saying, "ha, look the turbo 6 still couldnt take that bolt on gt" because they thought you were a gt and wouldnt accept that you were another turbo 6! I get excited whenever you get a new mod. Keep us updated!



8cd3go in my post I said about 70 more not sure or exact, but remember Mike puts down 400rwhp @ 12psi and (Rygen now 11psi) E-13 at 9.5 put down 328rwhp but of course I don't know for sure its just a estimate of around 70 could be 60rwhp more. We will have to wait for the dyno sometime next week per rygen.

ORIGINAL: TJ

I have some questions for you if you don’t mind

You know you going to hit or exceed 400rwhp (dynojet) next week ( wow can’t believe it) have you looked into new fuel pump and putting the fuel pump or your stock one on its own (line) breaker/fuse?

Rygen did you talk to Mike about running a mech or electronic boost knob?

I was also wondeing (and his response) did you ask Mike if it is possible to use the 11psi tune on 8.5psi or 9.5psi for DD via the boost knob?
Or due you have install a 8.5 psi tune first?

What size are you DR’s what is the height?

Did you ever calculate what the gear ratio comes out to with the height of the DR's your running?


You know you gear is now coming into focus now and raises questions esp if the ET is low if you know what I mean not bad so far.

I had more questions and comments but didn’t save the original Looooong post in word and lost it.



TJ,

Yes, it sucks. But I am the first one to get the percision stall so someone has to go through it. I'm just glad PH was able to get them to restall my stock TC @ shipping cost. So I will have a stall, and it looks like it will be around 2800ish...maybe 2900ish....I can still launch at 8lbs at that stall speed if I time it right and don't break loose. If I have all the time in the world, I might get it up to 10lbs.

Yes, I am sure MD will be the way to go for me. I'm still on the fence if I should bother going to Thompson with a 6 hour drive home following that. But I LOVE to race, so I'm leaning towards it. But the following weekend, I'm hitting MD for sure.

I spoke to Mike about a boost controller and he said it is doable, but I havent gotten serious about it yet. But since I have to go back up to Erie PA for the stall in a few months, I think it is a worth while project.

My DR's are 275/55/16's. They are 28in tall.......I'm guessing that puts me closer to a 2.55 gear ratio. Thing is when I trap on the 1/4 mile, I'm at 5500 RPM. I have a few 100 RPM to go, I'm thinking some shorter MT's and get the revving up a bit more to increase my ET's.

You know me man, I'm going to give it my all for 11's, just not sure how realistic it is.

ORIGINAL: TJ


ORIGINAL: 8cd03gro

ORIGINAL: TJ

ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

Well, got an update on the work. Looks like Percision has to modify my stall to fit the V6, so its two months out. It's unfortunate as this will probably put me past race season. But its the first one, so I don't mind.

However, not all is lost. Percision is reworking my stock stall and adding 200-300 RPM (so hoping I can launch at 2800rpm, we will see) to it so I can at least improve my launches this season. So I'm very excited about that.

Also, for the TA Girdle, its been discussed before but wanted to remind people that you need a panhard relocation bracket in order to clear the 7.5 rearend. I only know 2-3 owners that have one and they had to have one. I'm going with the PH/CHE piece on this, but BMR also makes the bracket.

I'm hitting Thompson this saturday, but I'm not holding my breath, because that track is 1500 and the track I usually go to, Mason Dixon in MD is at 600ft above sea level. So I think my best times this season will be down there in the weeks to follow.

As soon as I get the drive shaft in, and other goodies I will provide a full report.

Racethis (handle of another 4.0L owner) thinks I should look into drag shocks. So I am now really thinking hard on those to.



I can’t believe this WT* two months!

I wanted to see this car with the stall with the rest of package of upgrade all together I am pissed dam! I (IMO) wouldn’t even run it at 1500 feet I’d wait a week or so till MD but that just me I would want apples to apples condition right off the bat for testing get that nice surprise with the right conditions. :)

I am so pissed about that stall I was looking so forward to this setup. Rygen I went over a few things I am seeing a dip in the elevens very possible (aleast on the day you ran 12.82 ) when you get the stall in two months w/3400 stall due along with the below.

1. 11 psi over 8.5psi good for about 70rwhp more.
2. Light weight drive shaft 9( on a GT the JPC DS (19lb) saves 26lb not sure what your DS saves but if similar nice!)
3. 3400 stall
4. The K member brace , (I believe this is similar as BMR (8lb) which saves around another 24lbs should .

Your ET 11.95-12.20 in to months. Good Luck

Then you still have a lot left in the arsenal just some below.
1. 1-3 more psi (28-75 more rwhp )I say up two 3 cause PH is running 14 psi or working on it so may be in your future .
2. Shorter gears
3. Skinnies
4. Trans
5. Remove Cats or high flow
6. 2 stage setup like you use to talk about but at a risk



I have some questions for you if you don’t mind

You know you going to hit or exceed 400rwhp (dynojet) next week ( wow can’t believe it) have you looked into new fuel pump and putting the fuel pump or your stock one on its own (line) breaker/fuse?

Rygen did you talk to Mike about running a mech or electronic boost knob?

I was also wondeing (and his response) did you ask Mike if it is possible to use the 11psi tune on 8.5psi or 9.5psi for DD via the boost knob?
Or due you have install a 8.5 psi tune first?

What size are you DR’s what is the height?

Did you ever calculate what the gear ratio comes out to with the height of the DR's your running?


You know you gear is now coming into focus now and raises questions esp if the ET is low if you know what I mean not bad so far.

I had more questions and comments but didn’t save the original Looooong post in word and lost it.






i don't know about 2.5 more psi being good for another 70rwhp, that seems high to me, but im not sure. The driveshaft will help him put a decent amount more power to the ground. Hell even if it only frees up a few percent of his power, he will still be making that across the entire span of the rpm's and it is definately stronger than our stocker, so thats one less thing to worry about. I can see mid-low 12's. Damn good man, you need to put some track times of your car with a vid of your engine on streetfire to represent us. I saw the vid of you and umm excepcion13? i think thats his name.... People were saying, "ha, look the turbo 6 still couldnt take that bolt on gt" because they thought you were a gt and wouldnt accept that you were another turbo 6! I get excited whenever you get a new mod. Keep us updated!



8cd3go in my post I said about 70 more not sure or exact, but remember Mike puts down 400rwhp @ 12psi and (Rygen now 11psi) E-13 at 9.5 put down 328rwhp but of course I don't know for sure its just a estimate of around 70 could be 60rwhp more. We will have to wait for the dyno sometime next week per rygen.




Thanks man, I would be estatic with 12.3's. There are like 3 more vids of my car from that day that I posted awhile back.

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ORIGINAL: rygenstormlocke

Well, got an update on the work. Looks like Percision has to modify my stall to fit the V6, so its two months out. It's unfortunate as this will probably put me past race season. But its the first one, so I don't mind.

However, not all is lost. Percision is reworking my stock stall and adding 200-300 RPM (so hoping I can launch at 2800rpm, we will see) to it so I can at least improve my launches this season. So I'm very excited about that.

Also, for the TA Girdle, its been discussed before but wanted to remind people that you need a panhard relocation bracket in order to clear the 7.5 rearend. I only know 2-3 owners that have one and they had to have one. I'm going with the PH/CHE piece on this, but BMR also makes the bracket.

I'm hitting Thompson this saturday, but I'm not holding my breath, because that track is 1500 and the track I usually go to, Mason Dixon in MD is at 600ft above sea level. So I think my best times this season will be down there in the weeks to follow.

As soon as I get the drive shaft in, and other goodies I will provide a full report.

Racethis (handle of another 4.0L owner) thinks I should look into drag shocks. So I am now really thinking hard on those to.



I can’t believe this WT* two months!

I wanted to see this car with the stall with the rest of package of upgrade all together I am pissed dam! I (IMO) wouldn’t even run it at 1500 feet I’d wait a week or so till MD but that just me I would want apples to apples condition right off the bat for testing get that nice surprise with the right conditions. :)

I am so pissed about that stall I was looking so forward to this setup. Rygen I went over a few things I am seeing a dip in the elevens very possible (aleast on the day you ran 12.82 ) when you get the stall in two months w/3400 stall due along with the below.

1. 11 psi over 8.5psi good for about 70rwhp more.
2. Light weight drive shaft 9( on a GT the JPC DS (19lb) saves 26lb not sure what your DS saves but if similar nice!)
3. 3400 stall
4. The K member brace , (I believe this is similar as BMR (8lb) which saves around another 24lbs should .

Your ET 11.95-12.20 in to months. Good Luck

Then you still have a lot left in the arsenal just some below.
1. 1-3 more psi (28-75 more rwhp )I say up two 3 cause PH is running 14 psi or working on it so may be in your future .
2. Shorter gears
3. Skinnies
4. Trans
5. Remove Cats or high flow
6. 2 stage setup like you use to talk about but at a risk



I have some questions for you if you don’t mind

You know you going to hit or exceed 400rwhp (dynojet) next week ( wow can’t believe it) have you looked into new fuel pump and putting the fuel pump or your stock one on its own (line) breaker/fuse?

Rygen did you talk to Mike about running a mech or electronic boost knob?

I was also wondeing (and his response) did you ask Mike if it is possible to use the 11psi tune on 8.5psi or 9.5psi for DD via the boost knob?
Or due you have install a 8.5 psi tune first?

What size are you DR’s what is the height?

Did you ever calculate what the gear ratio comes out to with the height of the DR's your running?


You know you gear is now coming into focus now and raises questions esp if the ET is low if you know what I mean not bad so far.

I had more questions and comments but didn’t save the original Looooong post in word and lost it.






i don't know about 2.5 more psi being good for another 70rwhp, that seems high to me, but im not sure. The driveshaft will help him put a decent amount more power to the ground. Hell even if it only frees up a few percent of his power, he will still be making that across the entire span of the rpm's and it is definately stronger than our stocker, so thats one less thing to worry about. I can see mid-low 12's. Damn good man, you need to put some track times of your car with a vid of your engine on streetfire to represent us. I saw the vid of you and umm excepcion13? i think thats his name.... People were saying, "ha, look the turbo 6 still couldnt take that bolt on gt" because they thought you were a gt and wouldnt accept that you were another turbo 6! I get excited whenever you get a new mod. Keep us updated!



8cd3go in my post I said about 70 more not sure or exact, but remember Mike puts down 400rwhp @ 12psi and (Rygen now 11psi) E-13 at 9.5 put down 328rwhp but of course I don't know for sure its just a estimate of around 70 could be 60rwhp more. We will have to wait for the dyno sometime next week per rygen.




Yep, the dyno should be interesting. I am not worried about HP honestly, I want to get some serious TQ out of 11PSI and I think I will get my wish. If I can get close to 400 rwtq that would be insane. But probably get somewhere around 380-390ish. We shall see. Besides, I realized I still have a good ways to go with this car. It should keep me busy till the boss pre-order list comes out.

haha ironically ive jsut been spent the last 20 min looking for those videos of the 2 turbo 6's .. lol care to point me in the right direction rygen??

damn rygen, you just keep goin bigger and bigger. Are you gonna keep the 6er once you go with the boss? The boss is going to be amazing, but man...your 6 is just such a sleeper bad ass.

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haha ironically ive jsut been spent the last 20 min looking for those videos of the 2 turbo 6's .. lol care to point me in the right direction rygen??


lol i hate streetfire. Love the videos, but they designed it horribly. The search sucks and the server is always down.