RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again!
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/7/2004 8:29:10 PM
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I'm about sure there will be a different type of engine besides the LS-1 in 2007 for that Camaro. Especially if gas prices keep acting the way they do.
You're right, there will be. More than likely the LS2 will go in it. A Camaro with 400 stock hp.....mmmm. My LS1 gets 22+mpg around town and over 30 on the interstate though....so I don't think it's b/c of gas prices.
Looks like Ford needs to copy GM and go more cubes plus pushrod to make power.....not GM copy'ing Ford. If they did that, they'd have a Caddy with a 4.6L motor with more than 60HP over a GT Mustang....oh wait, they do.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/7/2004 8:31:43 PM
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they'd have a Caddy with a 4.6L motor with more than 60HP over a GT Mustang....oh wait, they do.
Sure...Use my line...
Besides. For the record, the Caddy is a 4V 4.6, that would make it LESS hp then the pre 03 Cobra, or the Mach 1.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/7/2004 10:36:41 PM
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LS2 gonna be modular?
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/8/2004 8:11:19 AM
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the problem with the GTO is simple, it is a Holden Monaro with a grand prix like front. the 05 mustang GT has almost 300 rwhp, that is more power than the mach 1. and they only weigh about 100-200 lbs more. on top of that, just about anything is gonna seem slow compared to an 03 cobra
Id race a 03 Cobra with a 2000 Cobra R That wouldnt feal slow
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/8/2004 11:15:46 AM
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You're right, there will be. More than likely the LS2 will go in it. A Camaro with 400 stock hp.....mmmm. My LS1 gets 22+mpg around town and over 30 on the interstate though....so I don't think it's b/c of gas prices.
Looks like Ford needs to copy GM and go more cubes plus pushrod to make power.....not GM copy'ing Ford. If they did that, they'd have a Caddy with a 4.6L motor with more than 60HP over a GT Mustang....oh wait, they do.
I bet they'll use something like a Northstar motor in it... everything is going to way of the DOHC 4 valve. Also don't forget Lincoln had the 4.6 Intec as well. Can't remember which came first though.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/8/2004 1:51:05 PM
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LS2 gonna be modular?
Bored LS1 basically....pushrod.
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Sure...Use my line...
Besides. For the record, the Caddy is a 4V 4.6, that would make it LESS hp then the pre 03 Cobra, or the Mach 1.
More than the Mach....and even to an N/A Cobra. 320hp.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/9/2004 12:50:30 AM
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How can you just now be reading about this? This concept has been in the works for a year or two now...I heard all about this just after they stopped building Camaros in 2002.
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LS2 gonna be modular?
Bored LS1 basically....pushrod.
:withstupid: The Corvette LS2 has a 101.6 mm bore over the LS1s 99.0 bore.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/9/2004 1:20:20 AM
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Arnt Modular engines more Efficient or somethin?
and Pushrods are Old Fashioned?
Not too sure, just speakin out the Ole Bum
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/9/2004 1:42:54 PM
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Arnt Modular engines more Efficient or somethin?
and Pushrods are Old Fashioned?
Not too sure, just speakin out the Ole Bum
your correct. pushrods arent as efficient as over head cams.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/9/2004 3:30:14 PM
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I really don't know the technical stuff on those motors but I do know that my LS1 gets better mpg than the new GT's, Mach 1's, and Corba's. With more cubes and more power. I don't get how the modular motor is anymore efficient?
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/9/2004 10:33:26 PM
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DOHC engines are more effecient with respect to displacement but not overall size. Pushrod engines put the rods and cam (only one, so cam swaps are 1/4 as expensive) in the unused space in the block. DOHC motors have to have huge heads, making them larger on the outside. Ever see a Mach 1 or Cobra motor? It looks like a big block. The pushrod design allows an engine to have more displacement while taking up less overall space in the engine bay. Not to mention torque. I am not a really smart gearhead or anything, I've just read about this stuff in mags.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/10/2004 2:50:27 AM
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Thats too bad. I love the f-body and it will be dearly missed.
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RE: Chevy Coming Out With Camero Again! - 8/10/2004 10:55:55 AM
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I do not see GM using the northstar in any again. They were a good idea at first, like the Olds Quad 4, but maintenance and reliability are the down fall for both. For example, The Northstar's starter is in the center of the engine. Have to remove the intake to replace, plus there are many other problems that require almost complete disassembly for one little part. MAN, I hate those engines!!! Caddy even did away with the n-star and went to LS1/LS6 (cts-v).
As for the pushrod vs. ohc debate. Pushrod motors will create more tq on the bottom end is relatively no good for high rpm without serious mods (lifters, hardened pushrods, guide plates, etc), --- where-as ohc setup is has the ability to rev to astounding rpms, especially when you have the variable timing control.
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