I received my CDC Shaker Hood and C&L Intake today. They will be me and Mrs. Labor day weekend project. Ill post pics as I go. Espicially will be sure to get one of the 1st cut on my hood [:@]

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Riven,
So, what did you decide upon for that infamous....."first cut"......[:o]

I am going to use a jig saw with an extremly fine tooth blade. This was based on 2 things. 1. I am good with a jig saw but have very limited experience with a die grinder, and 2. professor wizard said so :)

Best of Luck, may the force be with you....If my hood scoop gets here by this weekend, that's on my list. Hell, I'm nervous about just drilling holes for God's sake.....:D:D

You will love it!!!! Very easy install if you take your time. Can't wait to see how you make the shaker work with the intake... here's mine-

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wow....i dont think i have the balls to cut my hood...lol

btw, it looks like the air reverses direction after it comes it...kinda odd...now i undserstand why people say its almost only mod for looks

ORIGINAL: Intrcepter

You will love it!!!! Very easy install if you take your time. Can't wait to see how you make the shaker work with the intake... here's mine-

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That look is beautiful.

Total newb question...do the Shaker and CAI actually work together? From all the posts on the forum, people seem to agree the Shaker is more or less for looks alone (doesn't provide more than single digit HP boost). So do "2 air inputs" actually have some sort of positive affect on performance? Did you have to reflash your system?

ORIGINAL: Redleg


ORIGINAL: Intrcepter

You will love it!!!! Very easy install if you take your time. Can't wait to see how you make the shaker work with the intake... here's mine-

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That look is beautiful.

Total newb question...do the Shaker and CAI actually work together? From all the posts on the forum, people seem to agree the Shaker is more or less for looks alone (doesn't provide more than single digit HP boost). So do "2 air inputs" actually have some sort of positive affect on performance? Did you have to reflash your system?


take a look at this, the flow of air totally changes directions

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granted, it will push some extra air into the intake, but i dont think the "ram" of the air would be very powerful

ORIGINAL: Riven02

I am going to use a jig saw with an extremly fine tooth blade. This was based on 2 things. 1. I am good with a jig saw but have very limited experience with a die grinder, and 2. professor wizard said so :)


Riven, Just a couple of suggestions with the jigsaw from when I did mine (PW may have told you this already)

1. Put a cardboard box or something under the front of the hood to keep it slightly elevated. This will keep you from cutting into the intake.
2. Put something under the hood, about center of the piece that is going to be cut out. Its going to start to sag after you start cutting
and will place a lot of strain on the blade. I had a blade break and it shot the saw in the air. The only thing that saved my hood from a massive
scratch was the protective tape I ran per the instructions. Even still, I did get a little scratch, so be careful with that
3. Measure about 3 times for the center alignment. This is the most crucial step. The shaker leaves a bit to be desired in the adjustment dept
as it is and if you are off on your measurements it will make it that much harder to appear centered.
4. You might want to trim the shroud for the shaker where it goes over the throttlebody bolts. It is extremely hard to get the
bolt and socket under there as it comes from CDC. I actually cut mine with a dremmel tool to give me more access to the bolts.
To make it look a little cleaner, I then just covered the opening with black door trim moulding.

You'll love this thing, especially the first time you jump on the gas and you watch it torque with the motor!

Good luck

Awesome Riven!

Can't wait to see those install photos.

For another example of tieing the Shaker into your CAI, here is how I did mine.

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What Pull said is important - - I put a blanket on the engine, then cardboard. Put a 2x4 under the hood to support it while I was cutting. Measured like 5 times to make SURE I had everything centered. and I use the best FINE blades I could get for my saber saw.

On the "Ram Air" comment - - yes, tieing it in with a CAI you lose the pressureized ram air affect, but you gain a lot in feeding fresh outside cool air into the CAI Intake box.

This is the idea Brenspeed provided me. He also sent the blue adapter piece. I think it looks good, and I do not have to modify the shaker. So If I go in for waranty repair I can put the stock box back in.



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On the measuring...... Shouldn't the ridge be in the center of the hood? I was thinking that aligning the template to the ridge in the hood would get the template centered. Is this not correct??

It should be, but it is best to measure and find out for sure.

I would mask of the entire hood, fenders, bumper cover with plastic or a sheet. Don't want metal shavings or flying saw blades landing where they could scratch your finish. BTW goggles are a must!!! Take your time, enjoy the finished product.

Ok guys tomarrow morning is the day.................. I am going to cut my hood................. Wish me luck................


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Best of Luck!!
Don't ya just hate mulling it over and over in your mind the night before??[&:]

Yeah Im dieing here. I really think I can do it no problem but at the same time I am very nervous :) I havnt cut a hole in a hood before..

Well Its is under way.. I will just upload some pics for now. I will try to come back and add some comments when I have more time. (I am still installing as we speak.




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As you can see the dmg is done =) I think everything is going well.

Well I am having a little alignment issue with the shaker and the hood. RIght now it is off about 1/8 of an inch to the passenger side in the rear. So I am cutting down the bracket in the back so I can shift it to the drivers side some. This really put the brakes on things so I will didnt get as much done as I wanted but Ill see what I can get going tomarrow. I am getting frustrated tonight, and when I get frustated I end up over muscleing things and then I have broken parts. So I think it is better to just wait a night.

Sorry to hear the issues. Is it something you did or the kit it self? Seems like a lot of money and time if it's the kit being off. Is it just me or does the engine cover part look pretty cheaply made from the upclose pics I'm seeing?

The hole I cut is in the center is TOTALLY in the center of the hood, and the shaker lines up in the front. The back however is a little off. I really dont think anyone would notice, but I am VERY anal about that kind of stuff.


The engine cover is the weak link, but it still looks nice I think. The only part that looks a little cheap is the raw cut edges of the plastic. They are facing downward and are not very noticable but I might put some rubber trim around them to make it look a little cleaner. I havnt decided yet.

The Scoop itself is very nice quality.

Wow I will never have balls enough to do that. But one thing why dont they just have the shaker go strait into the throttlebody and forget abou the cai. Have a filter under the scoop.

I'm doing it when I get some money back from Ford they owe me. Maybe a month or so. Can't wait

Good luck Riven, it's going to look great when you're done!

==But one thing why dont they just have the shaker go strait into the throttlebody and forget abou the cai. Have a filter under the scoop==

It doesn't flow enough air by itself. I read where one of the guys blocked off the air inlet on his stock intake box so that all of the air was coming from the shaker. He said it sounded really cool, but when he started getting on it the car threw a trouble code.

Well I dont think it would work mouting it strait to the top since these cars are not carberated. If it was mounted to the top and fed strait into the intake where would the throttle body go?

More pIcs. We are almost done. We just have the inner trim ring hood blanket and the tune to go. RIght now we are waiting on the upper trim ring to dry.




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Riven,
Looks fricken awesome so far!! Great job, keep it going......

Mike

OK we got it finished... Its dark outside so I couldnt get good pics. But we got everything installed got it tuned (Brenspeed 93 oct) The 1st drive was very impressive. WOT I can definatly feel the difference.3rd is now very easy to bark. (It would chirp before but took effort) However the biggest improvment was the throttle response. It feels like I have a direct link from the peddel to the throttle body. This is accually foregn to me now. I had gotten used to the poor throttle response and the hanging revs between shifts, now I have to retrain myself on how to drive it. :) Thats still a great thing though.


In the next few days I will go back and add some comments to all these pics to aid in anyone else trying to install a shaker / C&L combo.




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Riven,
Looks good man. I love the look of that Shaker on the Silver.....Bet you're glad this is behind you now....

Oh, and I still remember my first drive with Brent's 93 tune....Smile lasted for hours, and miles.....

Congrats,
Mike

Well a couple days driving it now and the increase is power is amazing.


One question though... Why would a CAI make the exhaust louder? The drone seems to have increased and the overall volume is without a doubt a good bit louder. I didn’t expect this....... I am not saying it is a bad thing but I am confused as to why it got louder.

This has made it hard to make sure I am not pinging also. The added volume has increased my dash and shifter rattles. I am a little nervous that I might have a ping and not hear it good due to the loud exhaust. Is the pinging on these cars very distinguishable from a dash rattle?

I would just say more air going in, more air going out

Yeah I expected it to be louder at WOT due to the more air in more out, but at idle and light throttle It doesnt seem like it would be sucking any more in than before the CAI.... Not a big deal just kinda suprised me and it has made the drone a little worse.

What keeps the fresh cut hood from rusting?

I don't think the hood skin is metal....

Yup, the hood is aluminum...

OK I knew it wasn't steel....

I had some touch up paint ready for it but when we started cutting it we saw it was all aluminum (skin and bracing) so I didnt waist my time painting it as alum will not rust.



I am also still trying to get the time to go back and add some good pics of the finished result. I just dont get off work untill after dark so it will prolly be this weekend. The pics I posted dont do it justice.

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OK we got it finished... Its dark outside so I couldnt get good pics. But we got everything installed got it tuned (Brenspeed 93 oct) The 1st drive was very impressive. WOT I can definatly feel the difference.3rd is now very easy to bark. (It would chirp before but took effort) However the biggest improvment was the throttle response. It feels like I have a direct link from the peddel to the throttle body. This is accually foregn to me now. I had gotten used to the poor throttle response and the hanging revs between shifts, now I have to retrain myself on how to drive it. :) Thats still a great thing though.


In the next few days I will go back and add some comments to all these pics to aid in anyone else trying to install a shaker / C&L combo.




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Looks sweet bro... Nice job!!

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Well I dont think it would work mouting it strait to the top since these cars are not carberated. If it was mounted to the top and fed strait into the intake where would the throttle body go?


I think the biggest thing to remember is that the shaker has its "plumbing" in a kinda convoluted fashion for a reason.. to keep water out of the intake!
The twists and bends it takes along with feeding into the airbox (in addition to filtration) is so that water will not get sucked into the motor.

Water + Intake = Motor grenade!

I finally got the chance to take some good pics. (Busy Week)

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Notice in the last picture I added some grommets to the holes. I would suggest this to everyone with a shaker hood. I think over time the wires could get dmged by the raw plastic edges. Also It looks better IMO.
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When i was looking at your pics i couldn't believe you were actually making a whole on your hood!!!

But now that I see the end result it's definetly worth it:D

With my luck, i'd mess something up and have to end up buying a new hood [&:]

Congrats your car looks freakn' sweeeeeeet!!!

-DG

Riven,
Nice, nice job....did you decide on an emblem for the shaker?? Really looks sweet....

With my luck, i'd mess something up and have to end up buying a new hood

LOL...no kidding. I was nervous as hell just drilling for the hood scoop, let alone a cut like that!!:D:D

The cutting of the hood wasnt to bad. I actually did not do the sawing, I had my dad help me out there. (Your never to old for a father son project :D)It wasnt something I would have been afraid to do though because there is some room for error due to the trim ring. He is just a little better with a saw than me. I really think laying the template out and getting everthing lined up was the hardest part.

Also a BIG tip; In the instructions it says to attach the trim ring before mounting the shaker to the motor. I would NOT do this. If you mount the shaker 1st this will allow you to adjust the trim ring some to make sure you get a perfect gap all the way around the scoop. The ring has about .250" of play in it. If I would have followed the directions my shaker would have definatly been off a little and stuff like that bothers me to no end.

I also sanded off about .300" from the lip on the front of the engine cover. It was a VERY tight fit with the C&L and I was afraid the motor would torque over a little to much and break the plastic lip on the cover.

As stated and shown above I would strongly recomend some grommets.

Well I was leaning towards putting a 281 Logo and a cobrajet logo and make it look exacly like the shaker on the 69 cobra jet (only with 281 instead of 428) but the more I think about it the more I think that might be poserish. Ill post some pics of some of the ones I have found and get your guys opinion. I have to fish them out.

Ok guys, here are some emblems I have found that I thought might looks good. Please help me pick one or a combo of a couple. I am thinking 2 per side might look really good I just cant decide LOL. ANY AND ALL OPINIONS WANTED. If you have something not shown feel free to post that as well.





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I am very pleased with the 281 emblems from Autobadges...well priced, and quick....



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Hate to stray away from the topic... but Mlcrycc, what kind of hood scoop is that?

It's a Roush, pre-painted....Just went on yesterday....

Mike

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I am very pleased with the 281 emblems from Autobadges...well priced, and quick....



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Is the 281 logo a matte black background or glossy? Also does it have ribs behind it or it is smooth? (For an example of the ribs look at the GT emblem I posted, It is factory for a 67 mustang GT)

I think I want to go with one of the 281 or GT logos but the main thing I am not sure of is wether I should put another logo after it. Like the long black powered by ford logo or the high performance logo something like that. There is just alot of blank room if I only put 1 logo on there. For an idea of what I mean look at the cobra jet pic. If it only had the 428 emblem there would be alot of free space.

The background is matte black, not glossy. It does not have ribs as in the GT logo you posted, but rather, is what I would call "rough cut". Not smooth, but does not have the ridges like the GT logo.....Maybe this one will show it better....



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How thick is the emblem?



I am trying to see if it would match any of the other logos. It being Matte black cuts out the Powered by ford logo I think becuase it looks glossy.

about 1/16 of an inch....give or take a hair....

ohhh so it seems like it is more of a decal than an emblem. Is the 281 and the border raised at all? I thought it had atleast raised lettering.

No, it's definately an emblem, not a decal. Just not real thick....maybe they hedge toward an eighth of an inch, at the most....The border and 281 are slightly raised from the background......not by much.....They are secured with 3M....

Alright thx alot man I was full of questions :)

Great job Riven! Quality work like that gives much inspiration to us newbies.

Question: has anyone determined how much HP/TQ gain, if any, this setup has over just the CAI/Tuner? Or is it purely a cosmetic thing?

The Shaker isnt going to add much HP. While moving you are definatly going to be getting colder air, but that is really the only advantage. I installed it because the wife thought it looked really good and wanted one since we got the car. It was a present for her that I wanted also and you cant beat that :D.

ORIGINAL: Riven02

The Shaker isnt going to add much HP. While moving you are definatly going to be getting colder air, but that is really the only advantage. I installed it because the wife thought it looked really good and wanted one since we got the car. It was a present for her that I wanted also and you cant beat that :D.


Thanks, I definitely feel you on that one. Reason I'm looking at the Shaker/CAI is cause I think it will be easy to convince my better half that it is "necessary" :D

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Well a couple days driving it now and the increase is power is amazing.


One question though... Why would a CAI make the exhaust louder? The drone seems to have increased and the overall volume is without a doubt a good bit louder. I didn’t expect this....... I am not saying it is a bad thing but I am confused as to why it got louder.

This has made it hard to make sure I am not pinging also. The added volume has increased my dash and shifter rattles. I am a little nervous that I might have a ping and not hear it good due to the loud exhaust. Is the pinging on these cars very distinguishable from a dash rattle?



It's not really the CAI that is making your exhaust sound louder, it's the tune. When I was at the track I was switching from my Brenspeed to Evolution tunes and someone said that my car sounded a lot louder with the Brenspeed tune.

I think a good but of the new noise has come from cutting a hole in the hood. There is a good bit more engine noise now.

On a side note. A S&B filter came with the shaker hood. It is a factory replacment filter. Since I went with a C&L CAI I am selling the S&B filter HERE (http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1977581/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#1977581). If anyone is interested.

I ordered the 281 logo about 2 weeks ago now but they are backordered hopfully I will get those soon.

Good job, Riven02.

Congrats for joining the Shaker do-it-yourself club.

I'm totally happy with my install. Now you've got me thinking about the CAI mod...you and the Professor.:D

I just did the cuttin last night and did the rest of the install this morning, I will not do it again. I had to enlarge the bracket holes that go on the throttle body 3 sizes to finally get it. Not a very well made piece for the money IMO

I didnt have to enlarge any of the holes. It did take a little tweaking to get the aligment just right though. No big deal though. I thought the quality was very good and I am VERY pleased. I get a TON of complements now. It really makes it stand out from just another mustang.

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I didnt have to enlarge any of the holes. It did take a little tweaking to get the aligment just right though. No big deal though. I thought the quality was very good and I am VERY pleased. I get a TON of complements now. It really makes it stand out from just another mustang.



What he said, except I didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary. Lucky ducky, here. X2.

That is gonna be really schweet! 1 ? tho, is there any way to do away with the plastic shroud they provide? I know the mounting brackets will be hanging out but its gotta be better that the plastic IMO otherwise lokks awesome!

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Where did you find this one?

Damn... I was biting my nails while reading this thread. Great job, looks sweet!!! Thanks for a great thread!

I went with a CDC shaker CAI, then swtched to a Paxton 2200... Lot's of fun:



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Ok guys, here are some emblems I have found that I thought might looks good. Please help me pick one or a combo of a couple. I am thinking 2 per side might look really good I just cant decide LOL. ANY AND ALL OPINIONS WANTED. If you have something not shown feel free to post that as well.





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Where did you find this one?



That emblem is a shelby Cobra emblem from I THINK a 67 mustang. Any classic mustang shop should have it.

My Shaker just arrived. I have been waiting for six months, trying to save the $800 for it. I am going to install it myself. I just couldn't see paying the dealer another $1000 to do the install. I thank all of you for your thoughts and suggestions. I have a real good friend and Mustang lover coming over to help me get the courage to make that infamous first cut. I will try and post pictures when I get it installed.

what kind of power does the shaker hood add is it worth 800?

Its just for looks little or no power.

Per the Shaker Hood, has anyone noticed the inside openings while looking into the frontof the scoop? The seams on the insideare not sealed.Allot of air getting misplaced and not going to the air filter? Is this an added design to remove water?

Thanks

Your right they are not sealed (I took mine completly apart). I really dont think it would matter much though. IMO the shaker is just not going add HP wether it is sealed or not. Sealing it would make it so the scoop wouldnt drain anymore, but the tube that runs to the filter is raised off the scoop floor. So it would still take alot of water to get in there. Then even if it did the water wouldnt make it into the motor since it would be deposited below the filter.

Wish I could spend $800+ for a Shaker when a non-functional scoop would do the same thing.

Anyone??? Baba? Please explain- what's the "appeal" of the Shaker? (love their stereo though...)

Shaker is retro, shaker is functional, (I would never glue a scoop to my car) Shaker shakes, shaker looks bad ass, cures hook shake at high speeds[8D], engine cover is fairly nice. (It cover the ugly valve covers and tons of wires) Im sure i could think of more:D

It's not more functional than a CAI and tune - especially for the money.

What do you define as "functional"? Is it the "shaking" you like? Maybe there is a market for a "shaking" non-functional hood scoop... Howard would love you too...


Also - if you like the retro "shaking" so much, WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED WITH HOOD SHAKE??????

Sorry - please try again later:( when it has worn off...

Baba

This does not take the place of a CAI. It just supplies the filter will cool air. You can have both. Function means it will lower under hood temp and supply cold air. It is functional in the same way a cowl induction hood is. If I was poor I wouldnt put it on but I am not and I like the looks so money has nothing to do with it. If a taped on scoop does it for you then great, but it doesnt do it for me. It is much more functional that stripes, spoilers, plenum covers, etc. If you dont like it then dont buy it. I really couldnt care less if you like it or not.

Whats with the Howard Stern crap. Are you 9 years old?

Riven -

I'm really not trying to change your mind. I kind of think you do care if I buy it or you wouldn't be so harsh. I will have to consider it... You make a really good case for it

(also - I have the "hood shake" you mentioned already but I actually LOVE IT! Sorry it is a problem for you though...) I would pay to get it if I did not have it but I would have to save up.

BTW - I am actually 11 years old and almost as smart as you about cars and stuff - I have a girlfriend too ;).

Howard Stern is our father...;) It's all good - because you can afford something I can't and do not care about the cost"because it shakes". Shaking is good.... I like how the Shaker on your car really shakes on your posts.

Anyone else (please) with an opinion on why a Shaker is worth $700 more than a "paste on" hood scoop (other than looks - retro, etc... -Please!!!!)

Baba

I am not trying to be overly rude about this. I know sometimes on the net it is taken as hostile sometimes when it isnt meant to be. I am mearly stating what led me to buy one.

The only part that was meant to be hostile is the Stern thing, and I can tell by all you extremly imformative posts that you know a ton about cars, so I wouldnt dare argue with you about cars. (Sarcasm can be hard on the internet aswell see previous sentence LOL)

Baba - you stupid idiot! Stop using my PC!!!!

A Shaker hood IS functional and provides added airflow which = HP. It is claimed to give you 10-15 hp over stock and looks awesome IMHO. In combination with a CAI and tune it can almost provide the same hp gains as a supercharger. The Shaker hood was used on some classic Mustangs and most recently on the 2004 Mach1 which put out 310hp - that's STOCK buddy.

It is a great option that you obviously can just not afford - so sad [&o]. Yeah - get a paste on hood scoop and with your hood shake it should do it for you just fine right now.

Sorry everyone.

Baba's dad

riven,,,that looks great. i to like a shaker better than a hood scoop, but thats just personal choice. if a guy likes a scoop, more power to em. but the shaker just has the looks and the workings that make it nice. you did a fine job. and for what its worth, i hate howard stern.

Sorry if I was misunderstood - I never said I liked the non-functional hood scoops or not - my question was - For $800+ is it worth it - Shaker? I think you can get the same look and more hp with a CAI+tune+non-functional hood scoop. That's all. Please turn down the sensitivity meter. The thread WAS about CAI+Shaker... just expressing an opinion. I'm sure there must be lot's of Howard Stern fan's that drive Mustangs - they go together. I like him long time.

Baba

Are you ****ing high?


ORIGINAL: bfoster01

Riven -

I'm really not trying to change your mind. I kind of think you do care if I buy it or you wouldn't be so harsh. I will have to consider it... You make a really good case for it

(also - I have the "hood shake" you mentioned already but I actually LOVE IT! Sorry it is a problem for you though...) I would pay to get it if I did not have it but I would have to save up.

BTW - I am actually 11 years old and almost as smart as you about cars and stuff - I have a girlfriend too ;).

Howard Stern is our father...;) It's all good - because you can afford something I can't and do not care about the cost"because it shakes". Shaking is good.... I like how the Shaker on your car really shakes on your posts.

Anyone else (please) with an opinion on why a Shaker is worth $700 more than a "paste on" hood scoop (other than looks - retro, etc... -Please!!!!)

Baba

He's a ricer from a forum w/ nothing better to do because they can't make there cars any faster than 18's. So don't even listen to him

well said redfire. and your car looks A+

Thanks

ORIGINAL: bfoster01

It's not more functional than a CAI and tune - especially for the money.

What do you define as "functional"? Is it the "shaking" you like? Maybe there is a market for a "shaking" non-functional hood scoop... Howard would love you too...


Also - if you like the retro "shaking" so much, WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED WITH HOOD SHAKE??????

Sorry - please try again later:( when it has worn off...

Baba


I don't respond much to things said on this forum but on this one I am going to finally lie waste once and for all to those people who claim the Shaker RAM Air has no functional value. And I am going to use facts to show how little thesedetracting types of people like Baba really know or understand about the mechanics of air flow. First off I am going to state that I have the CDC Shaker RAM Air on my 2006 Mustang GT. I also have a Hypetech Hyperpac that is connected directly into the OBD2 port that povides real-time engine monitoring.

Myfirst test was to doa baseline prior to installing the Shaker RAM Air. The initial air intake temperatures read directly off the ODB2 port wererecorded to be 17 degrees higher than after the Shaker RAM Air was installed. All thetests were done on the same day with the outside ambient temperatures holding to the same degrees atall test times. This particular first test was just at traveling speeds on city streets with normal stop and go patterns.

My second testwasto see at what airspeeds the Shaker would actually conduct air down to the filter. I directed a 3 speed fan at a distance of 1 foot from the Shaker scoop opening. At the lowest speed of the fan (15 mph airspeed) the air coming in at the Shaker could be "hand" felt at the K&N cone. Needless to say it was felt as well but with greater force as the fan was stepped up in speed setting. And the air measured to be cooler the faster the fan was stepped up.

The third test was done driving the car at highway speeds.At speed the OBD2 air-intake temperatures fell 17 degrees from initial readouts however at 67 MPH there was not only the 17 degree drop in measured air intake temperatures but there was an additionalsudden drop of measured air intake temps of5 additional degrees below the initial 17 degree drop in measured air intake temperatures. The throttle response was significantly peppier but I hadn't felt like there may have been that much noticeable power or torque gain....some perhaps but not convincing in my mind.

With this highway result in mind I decided to revise how the Shaker was delivering its air into theheat shield that comes with most cold-air kits. Having the C&L CAI kit the first thing I revisedwas to create a better seal between the heat shield and hood blanket by fitting and securing with 3M adhesive spraya 1" thick foam insulation hose that I split down its lengthonto and around the upper lip of the plastic heat shield . This would then guaranteed that the heat shield is forming a complete seal against the hood blanket when the hood was closed and latched down.

Next turning to the Shaker Ram Air kit itself, for those not familiar with the CDC Shaker RAM Air kit, the lower plastic air delivery pipe is round at its top and then flattens when it goes verticle to attach to the heat shield. This to me is a certain restriction to the Shaker's air-delivery capability and Shaker functionalty. So this in my mind had to be corrected.

To resolve this I cut tolength (plus 2.5 extra inches beyond that)a piece of 3 inch diameter pipe scrap left over from an installation on another car. The angle of this scrap piece was a perfect mandrel bent 45 degrees. I permanently removed the useless lower CDC Shaker angular flat pipe thatcouples into therubber coupler that bridges to the upper round pipe coming off the back of the Shaker scoop. I then substituted in this 3 inch diameter scrap pipe for the discarded lower CDC pipe piece and secured it into the rubber coupler to the upper CDC round pipe coming off the Shaker scoop. I then replaced the plastic heat shield with another C&L plastic heat shield I had from another car.CDC directions calls for cutting the heat shield hole to locate the lower pipe into the bottom of the heat shield but instead on this second heat shieldI cut the receiving hole for the Shaker to locate higher near the top of the lip that seals to the hood blanket.

Now instead of feeding the scrap pipe into theheat shield so it just clears the heat shield hole lip which on a CDC design would haveit sitabout 2.5" below and from the K&N air cone, I instead by having the extra 2.5" length to the pipe now fed the pipe through the heat shield opening andlocated its end tofit directly flushagainst the mesh side of the K&N air cone. In addition I added a thin rubber coupler around the end of the scrap pipe where isfeeds through the heat shield in order to provide a friction-based seal where the scrap pipe goes through the heat shield.

Iclosed it up and went back out onto the highway.This time when I hit 67 MPH not only did the temperatures drop the5 degrees down from the usual 17 degree drop buttheintake tempdropped an additional8 more degrees for a total of 30 degrees. And here comes the surprise....when I hit 67 this time there was a sudded and very noticeable surge in power and torque that felt like someone bumped into the back bumper of the car. I did this test a few times at speed to make sure I wasn't imaging the "surge" I was feeling when I hit 67 MPH. The surge repeated each time. And why I am mentioning a torque increase as well is because as the surge occurs the backend of the car slightly drops down and I can feel the tires "digging" into the pavement.

I am positive that because I created a better seal between the heatshield and hood blanket and because the incoming colder air stream was nowbeing directed straight into the K&N cone side mesh and being immediatelyvacuumed up by the motor that this was allowing the heat shield to actually form a pressurized space which is what the Shaker RAM Air design is supposed to do.

So there you have it. The SHAKER RAM Air system does work if it is installed properly to seal the the heat shield and directly feed the air into the K&N cone. And there is a consistent and noticeabledrop in the intake temps with a concurrent surge of powerand torqueevery time 67 MPHis reached in my car and it continues to this day.......and that was NOT occurring prior to installing the Shaker Ram Air kit.

Now for those of you like Baba who continue to want to detract from Shaker functionality,we really don't want to hear the feeble diatribe unless you have the kit and can prove otherwise with some numbers coming right out of the OBD2 port. So Baba you can shut up now that the only thing you have proven is that youcan open your mouth to just change your feet.

Vista Blue....ya got any pics you can post of your revisions? Sounds like you did a great job!:)

Pics would be great!


ORIGINAL: Scotty07

Vista Blue....ya got any pics you can post of your revisions? Sounds like you did a great job!:)

I will go ahead and take pics this weekend and post them to my website and place a URL link to this forum under this message. It has to wait until the weekend because I travel out-of-town for my job and I am home only on the weekends. Look for it this weekend.

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Yours is real close looking to how mine is configured. I use a thicker foam inulation on the lip of the heat shield to form the seal.

Whereas yours hasa very slightspace between the cone and the pipe coming from the Shaker,mine goes right onto the mesh screen of the cone....but yours is close enough to demo the way mine is setup.

You used flexure pipe while mine is made of metal with a smooth internal surface. I think that using flex pipe could cause someresistence to the incoming air flow from the scoop. Don't know if it would be much but some disruption I would think.

But on the whole yours is similar to mine. Good job!

I am going to do the shaker hood, but am not sure of the CAI. Am I crazy to just do the shaker?

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Thanks, I couldn't find a pipe that would take it in the direction that the flex tubing did. I planon putting some type of powder on the top of the heatshield and then close the hood and see if it leaves marks on the hood. And if it does then atleast I'm sealing it pretty well. I'll post results.

GrabberOrange,

That was my plan as well, but since the JLT was at a good price I eventually bought one. Its all up to you my friend.

Well I put some powder around the top portion of the heatshield, and have to say I wasn't happy to see that it only left a small mark.


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Powder is a good idea. Its easy to get off.

ORIGINAL: praztek

Well I put some powder around the top portion of the heatshield, and have to say I wasn't happy to see that it only left a small mark.


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Precisely why I went with the 1" thick foam insulation hose. You can get a 6 foot piece for $4.00 at any Home Depot in the plumbing department.

Grabber

I have a new BBK CAI with a heat shield that has already been cut for the CDC Shaker. If you want it I will sell it for$180 plus shipping. That's $90 off the street price. It was on my 06 Mustang GT for about4 months. I switched to the C&L which look identical to the BBK except the C&L has a larger MAF intake which requires a tune. The BBK does not require a tune. Also while the C&L heat shield is made of plastic, the BBK shield is made of light weight powder coated aluminum. Looks brand newand the filter cone has been thoroughlycleaned and re-oiled per the BBK oil spec. Can't beat this price anywhere on the street.

Let me know if you want it or anyone else for that matter.

Here is an image of my Shaker Ram Air I spoke about above. Notice4 things: (1) The thick foam insulation pipe wrap I use around rhe heat shield to guarantee that a seal is actually formed when in contact with the hood blanket; and (2) the 3" inlet pipe I subsituted in for the removedplastic CDC lower inlet air tube going into the heat shield; (3) the subsituted pipe passing through into the heat shield at the top edge of the shiled rather than the bottom as CDC designed it to be and (4) having the subsituted inlet pipe stop directly against the K&N cone mesh rather than 2.5 inches from theK&N cone.


Link to Revised Shaker Intake Direct to KN Filter

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Thanks for the pics, I was looking at the insulator tubing, but thought it might look too big along the heatshield. But if it seals correctly , then I guess its worth it. I'll try playing around with my current setup and see if I can't make a tighter seal before going with the larger foam piece.



ORIGINAL: Vista Blue GT

Here is an image of my Shaker Ram Air I spoke about above. Notice4 things: (1) The thick foam insulation pipe wrap I use around rhe heat shield to guarantee that a seal is actually formed when in contact with the hood blanket; and (2) the 3" inlet pipe I subsituted in for the removedplastic CDC lower inlet air tube going into the heat shield; (3) the subsituted pipe passing through into the heat shield at the top edge of the shiled rather than the bottom as CDC designed it to be and (4) having the subsituted inlet pipe stop directly against the K&N cone mesh rather than 2.5 inches from theK&N cone.


Link to Revised Shaker Intake Direct to KN Filter

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ORIGINAL: praztek

Thanks for the pics, I was looking at the insulator tubing, but thought it might look too big along the heatshield. But if it seals correctly , then I guess its worth it. I'll try playing around with my current setup and see if I can't make a tighter seal before going with the larger foam piece.


I thought the same thing at first but then I asked myself - Am I looking for function or am I looking for compliments? The foam can always be removed when displayng the car and put back on after showing it. Nobody is going to see it when the hood is latched.

I couldn't agree more!

Thanks Again

Cut turned out great..

I WANT A SHAKER HOOD!... Ya know what... I am gonna get it, I hope that I can count on your guys if I need any help?!?:D

-John

im buying one too. i have owned the car for less than 6 hours and i already made my mind up

Yikes! This is like declawing a cat. The end result is desirable, but the cruelty involved is almost too much. In the end though it's all worth it I'm sure.

No animals were hurt in the posting of this reply

2 questions.....wheres the cheapest place to get it? and how hard is it to cut the hole....it just seems like id be shaky and how much error can i have? I dont want to have to buy a new hood (prove my dad right)

Nothing like waiting a year to post an answer to a question. Here is the link which shows the insulation tubing I used to seal off the CAI box to the hood blanket. I know it isn't the prettiest but it works to seal off the shield as thetop of the insulation tubing going around the air box edge has a flattened line a 1/2" wide made by the hood blanket contact to the insulation tubing.

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ROFLMAO!!! Uh take that off man. I am sorry, but the amount of benefit (which is slim to none) you are making there is not worth how UGLY THAT IS!!![:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(][:'(]

I agee with Boozshey.
Don't do this to your car people... Not for the amount of improvment gained here.

Laugh all you want..it works to make a GUARANTEED complete seal to the hood blanket. No one can see it with the hood down and when I show the car I just remove it.

ManI leftconversing withintelligent folks a year ago and now look what a year of time has done to you people....

And I think I told you the same thing a year ago... lol @ u