RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 6:08:26 PM
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The fact that you said that Evo had 80 less hp and the Camaro weighs 5000lbs is why I'll never listen to you again....
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 6:08:30 PM
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All i have to say is, it's still a mitsubishi! If im going to shell out 30 grand for a rally car, its going to be the WRX, there's a better chance it wont fall apart.
i love you man. why would anyone buy an evo? 19 psi stock and 13.3 in the 1/4? bah. the sti runs 14 psi and pwnz the evo. plus the mitsu WILL fall apart.
First of all, my last car was a modded '04 WRX, and I loved it.
But you're in denial if you are honestly saying "why buy an Evo?"
An Evo will hand an STi it's a$$ on anything but a dragstrip. They are ten times the road car that the WRX is, because they are developed as a fast road car, whereas the WRX was developed as a rally car for the street.
If you do a little research, you'll see that the STi cant compare on a twisty road or a track.
Take Sport Compact Car's project STi vs Evo, for example. They've spent about $10,000 on the STi's suspension already, and it still gets beat by the Evo every single time. Even the brakes are better, and the STi brakes are damn good.
They're two totally different cars. They're a lot alike at first glance, ~300hp AWD turbo sedans with rally heritage, but underneath, they're two totally different animals.
Now, as far as durability, I wouldn't trust an Evo for sh!t. It is a mitsu after all. But then again, the WRX tranny was built for the 1st Generation 1.8L n/a Impreza, and recycled into a 227hp WRX . Those things break constantly, and Subaru will push it's mother in front of a train to avoid covering them under warranty if they do break. The STi 6-speed is bulletproof, though.
And this is coming from a Subaru freak, so trust me, I'm not hating on the WRX.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 6:11:13 PM
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The fact that you said that Evo had 80 less hp and the Camaro weighs 5000lbs is why I'll never listen to you again....
Yeah, that was a joke.
But the Evo does have 80 less hp, and a Z28 weighs, what? Like 3600-pounds, right? So the weight advantage should make up for the disadvantage in power, right? And it almost did, as you can see in the video. But turbo 2-0's have no top end. Just a fact of life.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 6:19:15 PM
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The fact that you said that Evo had 80 less hp and the Camaro weighs 5000lbs is why I'll never listen to you again....
Yeah, that was a joke.
But the Evo does have 80 less hp, and a Z28 weighs, what? Like 3600-pounds, right? So the weight advantage should make up for the disadvantage in power, right? And it almost did, as you can see in the video. But turbo 2-0's have no top end. Just a fact of life.
Nope....that Evo was no where near stock. Did you watch the video?
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 6:54:29 PM
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Now lets put them on a road that goes more than one direction, and see if the Evo has time to stop and call a towtruck for the Z28 which is now in a ditch somewhere. 
We can talk #'s all night...it's no fun.
And to that...who wouldn't have guessed it would come up....why don't I just go buy a used C5 and upgrade some suspension and then we'll run a road course. Or maybe an old Iroc for $1500 and throw in an engine and tons of suspension for less than the $30k price tag on the Evo....it's a neverending debate here.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 7:07:10 PM
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You could throw the whole $30K Evo pricetag worth of suspension parts at an IROC, and still not equal the stock Evo suspension.
But I agree, it's a neverending debate.
And C5's are Junk, by the way. I used to work at a Chevy dealership. I am very disappointed in the quality of all Chevy vehicles. But especially the $50K C5. The interior feels like a Cavalier, and the tranny feels like a half-ton pickup.
Never driven a Z06, though. Hopefully those are much nicer.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 7:11:18 PM
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You could throw the whole $30K Evo pricetag worth of suspension parts at an IROC, and still not equal the stock Evo suspension.
Where's Dan when you need him.....please read up on 3rd Gen Camaro's man.....
The ZO6 pulls more G's than a 360 Modena and demolishes nearly all in teh 1/4 mile.....it's a bish.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 7:20:03 PM
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I ran with a (merciful) Z06 in my modded WRX on the highway.
We were doing about a buck-40, I'm white-knuckling the wheel through corners, sweating like a pig as we pass slower traffic through highway-sharp sweepers....I look in my rearview mirror, and the dude in the Vette is right on my rear bumper, chillin, no body-roll, no nothin. Just toying with me at 145mph.
What a beast.
I dont know much about Camaros, but the ones I've driven at work felt cheap on the inside. Just my opinion.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 7:23:23 PM
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I dont know much about Camaros, but the ones I've driven at work felt cheap on the inside. Just my opinion.
Well then, I wouldn't go off spouting ignorant comments like before. How the hell did you get a job at a Chevy place again?
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 9:59:44 PM
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3rd gens with a slight and really i mean slight amount of work to the suspension can do some rather amazing things in the corners. my ws-6 would outcorner my mustangs stock for stock all day..
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 10:39:11 PM
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I dont know much about Camaros, but the ones I've driven at work felt cheap on the inside. Just my opinion.
Well then, I wouldn't go off spouting ignorant comments like before. How the hell did you get a job at a Chevy place again?
Whoa there, Mr. Badass.
How the hell did you get a job at Taco Bell? Just like you, I applied, and they accepted.
For your information, I have driven every single vehicle produced by GM in the last five years except a Z06.
And the only piece of steel with a GM badge on it that's worth a ten minute test drive is the trucks. Those things are solid.
Everything else is JUNK. Especially Camaros. Just the way it is.
One salesmen put it best when he said "That SS is nothing but a V8 Cavalier." And he owns one!
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/2/2004 10:42:15 PM
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3rd gens with a slight and really i mean slight amount of work to the suspension can do some rather amazing things in the corners. my ws-6 would outcorner my mustangs stock for stock all day..
A third-gen is like an IROC-style Camaro, right?
That's one thing I dont see much of up here. There are a few modded Stangs, both 5.0 and 4.6, one which was featured in MM&FF I believe. But I never see modded 3rd Gen T/A's or Camaros anymore. The older ones look good modified.
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RE: Evo (22psi) vs Z28 - 8/3/2004 5:51:30 PM
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I dont know much about Camaros, but the ones I've driven at work felt cheap on the inside. Just my opinion.
Well then, I wouldn't go off spouting ignorant comments like before. How the hell did you get a job at a Chevy place again?
Whoa there, Mr. Badass.
How the hell did you get a job at Taco Bell? Just like you, I applied, and they accepted.
For your information, I have driven every single vehicle produced by GM in the last five years except a Z06.
And the only piece of steel with a GM badge on it that's worth a ten minute test drive is the trucks. Those things are solid.
Everything else is JUNK. Especially Camaros. Just the way it is.
One salesmen put it best when he said "That SS is nothing but a V8 Cavalier." And he owns one!
And yet you continue to classify the Camaro as a POS and then you say, quote:
I dont know much about Camaros Makes sense to me. Classify something you have no idea about as a POS. Just because it makes more power N/A then nearly any car available doesn't make it a POS. I bought my TA for performance, I could give two ****s about the interior.
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