RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/15/2006 8:06:15 AM
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Redleg
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ORIGINAL: scramblr
I just looked at a buddies GT with Kooks catted LTs. They definately sit below the frame rail, by 1/2 to 3/4". Still wondering if this piece will clear the Kooks since Che states they won't clear the SLPs. I've sent them an email, so we'll see.
What is an SLP? Would like to know what potential future mod I'm trading away in favor of the Che piece.
Also...specifically....what does the K Member Brace/G-Trac do?
What specifically does the Torque limiter do?
Is the torque limiter the piece that allows you to shift without issue?
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/15/2006 12:52:54 PM
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Sherwood06GT
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ORIGINAL: scramblr
I just looked at a buddies GT with Kooks catted LTs. They definately sit below the frame rail, by 1/2 to 3/4". Still wondering if this piece will clear the Kooks since Che states they won't clear the SLPs. I've sent them an email, so we'll see.
What is an SLP? Would like to know what potential future mod I'm trading away in favor of the Che piece.
Also...specifically....what does the K Member Brace/G-Trac do?
What specifically does the Torque limiter do?
Is the torque limiter the piece that allows you to shift without issue?
SLPs make long tube headers, which the CHE K member brace will not clear without a fabrication mod. I understand you have to move one of the torque limiter brackets about 1/5/8 inches for it to clear the headers. Any good metal shop can do this, and can most likely be done through the performance shop that you work with. I have the SLP headers and I have the CHE K member brace coming in Tuesay, and I plan on having it modified to fit. There was a tread that contained this info.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/15/2006 6:29:04 PM
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Redleg
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ORIGINAL: scramblr
I just looked at a buddies GT with Kooks catted LTs. They definately sit below the frame rail, by 1/2 to 3/4". Still wondering if this piece will clear the Kooks since Che states they won't clear the SLPs. I've sent them an email, so we'll see.
What is an SLP? Would like to know what potential future mod I'm trading away in favor of the Che piece.
Also...specifically....what does the K Member Brace/G-Trac do?
What specifically does the Torque limiter do?
Is the torque limiter the piece that allows you to shift without issue?
SLPs make long tube headers, which the CHE K member brace will not clear without a fabrication mod. I understand you have to move one of the torque limiter brackets about 1/5/8 inches for it to clear the headers. Any good metal shop can do this, and can most likely be done through the performance shop that you work with. I have the SLP headers and I have the CHE K member brace coming in Tuesay, and I plan on having it modified to fit. There was a tread that contained this info.
Are SLPs better than other Long Tube Headers? Can I assume that if SLPs won't clear then other brands will have the same problem? Thanks.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/15/2006 7:31:42 PM
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Riven02
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SLP Is the only brand I have heard will not fit. I know of members with the Dynatech and the kooks headers that have no issues with the brace.
I will be ordering one of those shortly.
Dynatech and Kooks are known to be some of the top headers avalible. Not that there is anything wrong with the SLP, just there is nothing that I am aware of that would make them better.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/25/2006 10:51:50 PM
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Riven02
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1. yup do not torque it to the 85 they have in the instructions. Ford says 33 I beleive.
2. Never heard anyone talk about this and dont see why it would change the aligment. It didnt on mine.
3. when u get under there you will know where the bolts go. The instructions say just above the starter if I remember right but it is acutally below the starter. But as stated before you will know. It is almost imposible to put in the wrong one.
Mine is holding up perfect I have been under the car many times since the install. It is a very easy install.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/25/2006 11:13:59 PM
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Riven02
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A person on another site had thier bolt break also. It seems to me the aluminum block should strip before the grade 10 bolt.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/26/2006 10:11:32 AM
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sport55
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Hey guys, go careful here. There is another post about the 85 ft/lbs being incorrect since Ford calls for 33 ft/lbs. Perhaps that is why the bolts are snapping.  Apparently, CHE is being notified about this issue but I have not seen confirmation that CHE has replied. Since so many members are finding out about the advantages to installing the k member with torque limiters, can anyone check on this issue and confirm whether the bolts should be torqued to 85 ft/lbs or 33 ft/lbs.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/26/2006 6:02:16 PM
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4wheelkillr
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I have the brace and limiters installed on my car....
I think the problem is that CHE used a V-6 model for the instructions...
that's why the torque specs and instructions are wrong...
it's obvious you cant use the bolt above the starter on the rt side of the engine to install the limiter because it just wont reach that lcoation....however the torque spec according to the ford manual is 33lb-ft....
I dont know where they got 85lb-ft...
I believe it's possible that CHE, because they used the V6 (which i think is an iron block), read the ford specs for that block and assumed it would be the same for the GT which is an aluminum block, but never checked it against a V8 aluminum block for the actual torque specs and the install location on the GT....
BOTTOM LINE:
Do not tigthen then to 85lb-ft or you are likely to break the bolt, or given the amount of stress that the bolt absorbs during corners likely to strip the block or break it durning cornering...
Tight it to b/n 33lb-ft to 40lb-ft or so and you should be ok..
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ORIGINAL: sport55
Hey guys, go careful here. There is another post about the 85 ft/lbs being incorrect since Ford calls for 33 ft/lbs. Perhaps that is why the bolts are snapping. Apparently, CHE is being notified about this issue but I have not seen confirmation that CHE has replied. Since so many members are finding out about the advantages to installing the k member with torque limiters, can anyone check on this issue and confirm whether the bolts should be torqued to 85 ft/lbs or 33 ft/lbs.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/26/2006 6:30:25 PM
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Gig4Fun
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IF YOU HAVE: BMR K-Member and want to put the CHE brace with the torque limiters on, here's what I did:
I put the CHE bar with the torque braces on my car. I have the BMR K-Member and I suggest you cut 1 1/4" off of the top of the tube to make it clear the ground better, AVOID having to get longer bolts. As you can see in this picture it is above the K-Member. Had I not cut 1 3/8" off of it it would have been the lowest thing under my car. With the 1 3/8" cut off I only had 1 1/2 turns left in the turnbuckle adjustment, so you may want to try a 1 1/4" cut first.[image][/image]
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/28/2006 1:22:30 AM
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Riven02
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Not really I dont have the specs at home but the sheer strength of a bolt that large is going to be very high and the boss it mounts to in the block is quite a chunk of aluminum.
< Message edited by Riven02 -- 10/28/2006 1:23:47 AM >
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 10/29/2006 3:50:52 PM
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Riven02
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I looked in my Ford manual to verify and it says 33ft/lbs for the torque limiter bolts. If anyone needs I can send the pdf.
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RE: K Member Brace With Torque Limiters Install - 11/6/2006 9:39:17 PM
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Riven02
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Did you adjust the limiters after they were installed and maybe angle the trans over a little? Just a shot in the dark as to why it might get more notchy.
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