witch way do YOU do a burnout in a autimatic i cant get my car to do it unless in a wee bit of water than it just sits there spinning

keep a foot on the break, and slowly push the gas, when you break loose, let go of the brake

Rev in neutral, and shift to drive while revving?

Thats how I did it in my 95' stang when I had it.

used to do this...people say its not good.....i would trust people

NO NEUTRAL DROPS BAD BAD BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know not to do taht

ORIGINAL: twinturbomustang

NO NEUTRAL DROPS BAD BAD BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know not to do taht


Lol.

If you guys want to be racing you should be driving a manual. Then it actually shows true skill between drivers. Not just who has the fastest car, but who knows how to drive it.

thea auto was my parents i know how to drive a manual i drive my friends 400 HP 2nd gen rx7 all the time with no problem

ORIGINAL: twinturbomustang

thea auto was my parents i know how to drive a manual i drive my friends 400 HP 2nd gen rx7 all the time with no problem


I wasnt trying to imply that you dont know how. I was just saying it because I know there are many kids on here that think they are all cool when they beat a mustang that is potentially faster than theres because they have an auto and the other guy doesnt.

Hold your brakes with your left foot, and push on the gas with your right foot until you reach 3000 rpms then slowly release the brakes.... make sure you are in D!! NO NEUTRAL DROPPING!!! you only can do that in FWD cars...IMO

Dont do this often, it wears down your brake pads very quickly.. also if your rotors are hot, it may even warp your rotors... also engine wise, Remember,you are putting a load on the engine which is not good, it shortens the lifetime of the engine...

i just turn off Traction control put my foot on the break and punch it , but i have help from my little friend!

burnout in auto (http://www.2005stang.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=516&pos=2)

Just do it once and take a picture or get a video of it to remember, because it's hard on the car. You'll only be spinning 1 tire too.

I heard if you get an intake and tuner then you can get the tires to burn from a dig. I don't know if its true but i'm saving up cuz thats what im gonna buy. Right now i tried power braking and that dont work for me so im gonna see if that will work.

Its gonna be hard to power brake with a stock auto because of the rev limiters. They keep you around 2000rpms when you hit the brakes. I cant even get a squeek out of mine that way. the best way I have found is on a right hand turn. turn off the traction control and I take mine out of overdrive. I cant explain why it does better, but I can get more rubber that way and I accelerate a little faster. oh and whats the problem st4ng? did you get spanked by an auto and your a little sore about it? lay off us auto guys, I woulda bought a manual but they didnt have one on the lot and when I bought mine in june to get a manual with everything I had I woulda had to order an 07 and wait until about right now till I could get it.

Heres how I like to do a burn out and break the trans at the same time. Get goin like 15/20 in reverese then slam it into drive. I did that in a tempo once, left the meanest 20 yard patches, they looked like a check mark, lol.
-P.

ORIGINAL: ST4NG

Rev in neutral, and shift to drive while revving?

Thats how I did it in my 95' stang when I had it.



You must really dislike your mustang to do that to it. Dont worry...it wont last long. You should be rid of it soon.

yes.... NEVER do this... it isnt THAT important to leave a black mark on the road.... how long after that did your transmition last?

I put my car on R and hit the gas hard... It's safe and simple.

HELL YEAH!!! I always do that in REVERSE!! LOL ... like when im trying to reverse quickly I always spin the tires.. people look at me like im doing that on purpose.. when it just happens by accident... LOL...

Some of you guys are nuts. You DON"T REV your engine then slam it into DRIVE. Say good bye to the TRANNY. Jesus Christ? Drive in reverse then slam it into drive?? What the hell? Thats taking care of your car. Unbelievable.
Tom

haha (@ post above)

I live in an apartment and our parking area is just loose gravel and when im leaving and even hit the gas a little bit it digs into the gravel.....many have gave me looks like im doing in on purpose. lol.

ive just lost a **** load of IQ points listening to you guys.. reverse to D... neutral drops... i hope your car breaks.. im sorry i dont care if your mustang owners.. if you do that you dont deserve your car

Realize that by choosing an automatic you gave up most racing aspects of your car. No burnouts and no red lining. If you want these things get a manual.

uhhhhh, hold the brake down, floor the gas and slowly release the brake untill you hear rubber burning, keep letting out till you get to the point of front brake adhesion....... thats what i did with my grand marquis anyways

ORIGINAL: XtacY

Realize that by choosing an automatic you gave up most racing aspects of your car. No burnouts and no red lining. If you want these things get a manual.

thats the most ignorant comment ever

and to the rest of you.. you guys suck at life.. the auto in the s197 is a ver reputable transmission.. and with a tune alone , the car will dust the manuals..

i own a manual so im not biased

ORIGINAL: XtacY

Realize that by choosing an automatic you gave up most racing aspects of your car. No burnouts and no red lining. If you want these things get a manual.


That certainly isn't true. A little more effort when your stock, but nothing that can't be overcome. And I let up, could have been 3-4 more parking spaces longer.



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im sure an auto s197 with a tune would not beat a manual s197 with the same tune. And if you do nuetral drops and reverse to drive drops, well then you are the ones that suck at life. It doesn't matter how great your tranny is and how dependable it is. A nuetral drop will destroy it real quick. Although I wouldnt go as far to say that buying an auto is losing your rights to racing and having fun. I know plenty of racers that are auto, even a bunch on here. In fact, its much more consistent. Yes it may not prove whos the better driver, but its still fun as hell. Who really cares whos the best?

for once i agree with you blackfoot (on the whole taking care of your car thing, performance wise and abusing the internals). they don't deserve to have their cars.

oy vey:P

Our cars are not bullet-proof. Everyone that revs and slams or reverses and slams are nuts and must have rich parents or other wise very deep pockets. Because maybe not today, but one day you will leave your tranny on the pavement![sm=nothatway.gif]

Well what about rental cars? My buddy came back out here from iraq, and had a dodge stratus....fully insured, of course!
Well, he was slightly intoxicated, so I decided to drift a FWD car....Poor rear tires had so many flatspots....
But i would be going 30 mph, throw it in neutral, rev to 5k, and throw it in drive!
Did a few reverse 180's, and a few forward 270's!

Poor car....We (not me this time) actually crashed into a curb, both front tires went up the curb.......There was not one scratch on the bumper, tires were barely scuffed....I wonder why to this day....

ok ok ill give you the secret. first get your boost at about 7 psi and then floor it lol :P

ORIGINAL: petepete

ok ok ill give you the secret. first get your boost at about 7 psi and then floor it lol :P


Hey petepete since you already had two Mustang (Procharger & Vortech) s/c 4.0’s, how do you get 7psi of boost with a auto to floor it off the line to per burn out when they don’t start making kind of boost till around 3500 rpm or higher?

Interesting discussion on the merits of an auto vs a manual when drag racing. Generally, all things being even, if the stick can hole shot the automatic and doesn't miss a shift it will win. Again generally, if the automatic stays with him out of the hole the automatic will win due to faster more consistent shifts. Want the best of both worlds? Google clutchflite. I've don't have personal knowledge of anyone doing this with a Ford automatic, but it could probably be done. The other option the automatic driver has is a higher stall speed torque converter. The torque converter change will go a long way toward eliminating the sticks advantage and would be much simpler than modifying the transmission to accept a clutch assembly.

Of course the other way of looking at the clutchflite is that it has all the disadvantages of both the stick and automatic. ;)

Here's a paragraph from a Hot Rod Magazine article on hot rodding 30 years ago...

In drivetrains, automatics were only beginning to find a following. B&M was the premier automatic builder, with the torque converter the biggest drawback. This led to the proliferation of ClutchFlite and Clutch Hydro automatics, which fitted a clutch to the automatic and replaced the converter. This was the era when hot rodders reviled slush box automatics, a time when a real man would drive only a four-speed. HOT ROD was full of “crash box” techniques to produce quicker shifts.

Whole article: http://www.hotrod.com/thehistoryof/1996_hot_rod_history/

Oh yeah, and forget any of the suggestions about slamming the automatic into gear.

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Hey petepete since you already had two Mustang (Procharger & Vortech) s/c 4.0’s, how do you get 7psi of boost with a auto to floor it off the line to per burn out when they don’t start making kind of boost till around 3500 rpm or higher?

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Just keep it at redline!!! LOL nah

Like 3500rpm is about 1psi for me with my procharger I get up to 6psi at like 5500 - 6000 rpm. I don't think I get the full 6 in first and second though, more like 5psi I believe. 3rd and 4th get the full 6psi . I'll haft to check it again!!! LOL[8D]

Turn off traction control, hold brake, hit gas, (put a chip in it, it makes a difference) ease off break. where did you ever get a stupid idea to do a nuetral drop or reverse and hit drive? you won't have to worry about burnouts, as the transmission will be gone.

To the guy that laughed at my first post (page one), I happen to like my Mustang way too much to abuse the sh@t out of it and blow the transmission or a rod. Maybe mommy and daddy will pay for it, but I've worked way to hard to mistreat my Stang that way. As you get older maybe you'll start appreciating things more (hopefully).
Tom

I am not one that gets into the whole burning out thing and I don't have any performance mods on my car. I can tell you that the '06 autos will burn out. I was trying to pull out into traffic and got tired of waiting for a gap in traffic, so when i noticed a tiny hole I floored it and my tires barked and did a burnout. Not what I wanted to do, but my point is they did.

That same thing happend to me last week. I don't know how I did it but I did do a burn out. This was the very first time that it happend and I could never do it again. I guess its how you work the gas? I'm all stock also so it couldn't have been the tuner. It was around 1pm and it was sunny and around 90 out.

ORIGINAL: ricklmesa@cox.net





Hey petepete since you already had two Mustang (Procharger & Vortech) s/c 4.0’s, how do you get 7psi of boost with a auto to floor it off the line to per burn out when they don’t start making kind of boost till around 3500 rpm or higher?



Just keep it at redline!!! LOL nah

Like 3500rpm is about 1psi for me with my procharger I get up to 6psi at like 5500 - 6000 rpm. I don't think I get the full 6 in first and second though, more like 5psi I believe. 3rd and 4th get the full 6psi . I'll haft to check it again!!! LOL[8D]



id get a smaller pully and have a wastegate purge off extra air at certain psi... 1psi at 3500.. im sorry.. but to me thats not worth the money.. i would want to see atleast 5-8 psi at that rpm.. then it being maintained for the reast of the rpm range

ORIGINAL: workshop4ever

im sure an auto s197 with a tune would not beat a manual s197 with the same tune. And if you do nuetral drops and reverse to drive drops, well then you are the ones that suck at life. It doesn't matter how great your tranny is and how dependable it is. A nuetral drop will destroy it real quick. Although I wouldnt go as far to say that buying an auto is losing your rights to racing and having fun. I know plenty of racers that are auto, even a bunch on here. In fact, its much more consistent. Yes it may not prove whos the better driver, but its still fun as hell. Who really cares whos the best?


the only thing is.. a tune for the manuals dont get that much of a benifit compared to the autos.. a manual will probobly gain about 12hp off a tuner, while an auto will get that 12 hp also.. but have sooo many other traits granted by the tuner, in the transmission alone

Try this way too Put your wheels in mud and try going

ORIGINAL: McBudd

I am not one that gets into the whole burning out thing and I don't have any performance mods on my car. I can tell you that the '06 autos will burn out. I was trying to pull out into traffic and got tired of waiting for a gap in traffic, so when i noticed a tiny hole I floored it and my tires barked and did a burnout. Not what I wanted to do, but my point is they did.

First thing... I really like your car... the hood scoop looks really nice and I LOVE the sun roof... my 94 had one... they look mean with that thing tilted up.... Secondly, there is a big difference between a chirp and squeel when you gun it going into traffic and a smoke billowing burnout that leaves a 15 to 20 yard strip of rubber on the tarmac. I think this guy was wanting to know about the latter. I would say with an auto, the rev limiters really wont let you do it. You need to get a chip or a tuner. Then you can power brake it all you want and have no problem making a very nice show.

You guys are so funny. I have enjoyed reading this thread! :D

Lol only draw back to the tuner is coming up with like $600 (Might as wells get the intake at the same time, its cheaper)

Reverse, then drive... and floor it? Rev it in neutral and slam it into drive? Sounds like The Dukes of Hazzard to me. Next thing you guys will be trying to jump your stang over creeks and riverbeds after the boss hog and sliding across your hoods, jumping through the window into your car, LOL ROFL..... then one day "soon" your stang will give one last heaving buck and red fluid will be on the ground with metal chunks in the puddle....lol

Have fun guys!!

Turn off traction control. Do a little brake torqueing until tires spin, release brake and put the petal to the metal. Never do this on a turn because you could end up doing a donut.

I agree with what one guy said earlier. Do this one and have someone take a video. Post it on a web site for everyone else to see. This is too nice a car to beat up that way.

Don't expect anything like on TV. They stage the whole thing, putting bleach down under the tires for better effect.

I don't think anybody here is serious about going on reverse and slamming to drive or neutral drops. I think people are retarted if they believe that these are serious posts. Can't you guys tell if someone is pulling your legs?

Here's what I do. Throw it into drive and get up to about 60mph and then throw it in R for Race. Try that. It's just as effective as reving in neutral and droping into drive or going reverse and droping into drive.

Well I was going by the post from ST4NG, he not only stated that method as a viable method, he also said the he used to do that with his older model stang. I dont think he was joking, or pulling anyones leg, but I myself was joking, and no harm was meant to ST4NG, as im sure ST4NG isnt just posting BS posts, but I could e mistaken.....

[8D];):D:)[:-]

Xtasy and ST4NG ....What do your cars run with that "racing 5 speed T-5 " on it? [:-] Who cares if a car is potentially faster ...a win is a win.

this thread really makes me wonder why i belong to this forum....i can just see a honda owner reading this and thinkin "newbs" like we think of them "ricers". please lets just lock this thread so no more stupid juice gets spilled. my ****ing shirt is stained already. god damn.

ORIGINAL: Black06Auto

Here's what I do. Throw it into drive and get up to about 60mph and then throw it in R for Race. Try that. It's just as effective as reving in neutral and droping into drive or going reverse and droping into drive.


rofl i almost pooped myself reading this

sorry to ask, but i think he was joking about the goin 60 then popping it into reverse....were you kidding? seriously

Haha, yeah I'm kidding. DON'T DO THAT.
ORIGINAL: Dax21

sorry to ask, but i think he was joking about the goin 60 then popping it into reverse....were you kidding? seriously

LOL

60mph to reverse.. I did that by accident once in my uncle's Bronco II on a gravel road. Well, 60 km/h to reverse.

Was driving a little silly, and started to slide, so I went to "slap" the shifter to knock it into neutral to steer out of my fishtailing, and damned if that POS didnt slap right into reverse. Shouldn't have been able to happen, but it did. I stopped and expected to see the tranny in chunks all over the road, but surprisingly it still drove.

He ended up replacing the tranny (#4 at that point, iirc) in that thing a few months later, I never told him what happened.

Crappiest. Truck. Ever.

im sooo afraid ima do this sometime see when i pull up to red lights i put it in neutral whl im still moving so i dont sit there with my foot on the break ( plus i can be an ass when i see a friend or a girl and rev it LOL ) im always like AHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my mom used to have a bronco II. the problem with those things is they had the same transmition as a pinto! or at least that was what they guy at the transmition shop told us after the 3rd time we brought it back to get it replaced. we just got rid of it the next time it messed up which was on the way home from the transmition shop lol.....

Is it even possible to put your car on reverse when the car is moving forward? I thought there's a safety on cars that prevents this from happening? I have an automatic and sometimes when I'm cruising and put the car in neutral, sometimes it goes a little bit too far and I feel like it's letting me go to reverse.

I always just gun it and take a left had turn due to only one wheel spinning and the decreased weight on the pside rear tire you'll smoke um but be careful you could do a dognut or go to fast into on coming traffic.... of I throw it into RACE "R" like stated earlier...
THIS WAS SILLY thread[8D]

BUMP

ORIGINAL: stratjakt

LOL

60mph to reverse.. I did that by accident once in my uncle's Bronco II on a gravel road. Well, 60 km/h to reverse.

Was driving a little silly, and started to slide, so I went to "slap" the shifter to knock it into neutral to steer out of my fishtailing, and damned if that POS didnt slap right into reverse. Shouldn't have been able to happen, but it did. I stopped and expected to see the tranny in chunks all over the road, but surprisingly it still drove.

He ended up replacing the tranny (#4 at that point, iirc) in that thing a few months later, I never told him what happened.

Crappiest. Truck. Ever.



LOL! I did the same thing in my parents' minivan back when I was young and stupid (except park, not reverse [:o][:o][:o]). It made a nasty sound, like when you pull one of those wind up cars too far back. I was like "oh shhhhhhhhhh**********t" but it still ran fine so I never said anything.

Later, the transmission went out very suspiciously early. I don't know if that was a coincidence or not.

I'm not gonna comment on burnouts in an auto. Without a manual clutch, it's less a matter of ability than it is a matter of destruction. In order to keep the auto from doing what it's supposed to do (ie - move the car), you have to do something you shouldn't, like keeping the breaks hammered down. There's no good way of looking at it.

What I will say, though, is that there is a vast amount of misunderstanding and inexperience going around. First off, between the two trans (manual vs auto) more manual drivers are more experienced with their transmissions because they have to be. You're forced to deal with the response of the engine. Most auto users just pop it into D and go (and this includes all car drivers, not just 'Stangers). Trouble is, there are a LOT of drivers who just don't know how to drive an auto, other than that "D means go," and just as many manual drivers who think the same. It is very possible, as some of you know, to control the transmission of an auto and learn how it responds. Once you know how the car's auto transmission responds and what you have to do to make it tear off, you're only limited by the capabilities of the rest of the car.

Could the car perform better with a stick instead? Sure. If not, professional racers would use autos instead.

If it has an auto does it mean it's worthless? Heck no. That's just crap thinking.

Well powerbraking dont even work really. You could sit there for 10mns with the brake down and the gas on and it just doesnt turn because of which i believe someone said the rev limiter.

Burnouts are easy, don't listen to these haters. And cool too, especially peg-leg burnouts! All you need is some gasoline, a match and total like of common sense. Then get into the car...quickly, before the engine and tires burn...rev it up in Neutral, drop it into D and powerbrake. I call this a sooopa-burnout. Only for the uber-1337!

D dropping is bad 1st of all...and 2nd its not that we hating just alot of us actually cant do a burnout but i do like the gas n matches part lol

No kidding it's bad, but as long as the car's being set on fire, may as well go all out!

ORIGINAL: HurricaneStang

Well powerbraking dont even work really. You could sit there for 10mns with the brake down and the gas on and it just doesnt turn because of which i believe someone said the rev limiter.


Torque limiter.... the Spanish Oak (the cars computer) has a Torque management system that prevents the car from making too much torque.. this is what is preventing you from doing a burnout... (this is not to be confused with the traction control system)

Some cars must be differnet then because i can power brake 1 tire of course all day long in my 06 completly stock. Hell I have left a 40 foot long black mark in front of my parents house, just a couple weeks ago at the family reunion. Wierd i thought everbody could do that.

ORIGINAL: chadlet

Some cars must be differnet then because i can power brake 1 tire of course all day long in my 06 completly stock. Hell I have left a 40 foot long black mark in front of my parents house, just a couple weeks ago at the family reunion. Wierd i thought everbody could do that.



Nope... not everyone can... Based on my observations it appears that the 2006's are allow to develop more torque then the 2005's were... The guys that appear to be able to do big burnouts with automatics are 06's... so perhaps there was a change... Also the type of surface will play a big part in it...

BTW... I believe you are over in the Thumb...???? You should think about heading out to Ubly on October 14th!!! LOL!

Well that kinda sucks if the 06 autos can but not the 05's lol. I think im just gonna stop trying until i get the tuner CAI combo im told that will burn em which im looking forward to....Its alittle depressing that my friends 98 stang can burn the tires good and i cant even get a squeak lol.

when i first had my auto completely bone stock, i couldn't pull a screach either...nothin....then, C&L and xcal2, ummm lets just say it was a one tire fire show....

ORIGINAL: HurricaneStang

Well that kinda sucks if the 06 autos can but not the 05's lol. I think im just gonna stop trying until i get the tuner CAI combo im told that will burn em which im looking forward to....Its alittle depressing that my friends 98 stang can burn the tires good and i cant even get a squeak lol.


yep... that was the reason I bought the X-Cal2... I was a stop light and these guys in a pickup truck pull up next time... They are hooten and hollering... giving me big thumbs ups! They are shouting "NICE CAR!" They they said, "light'em up!" I just hung my head in shame and cried, "I CAN'T!" I went straight home and ordered my x-cal2!!!

ORIGINAL: acstone7

when i first had my auto completely bone stock, i couldn't pull a screach either...nothin....then, C&L and xcal2, ummm lets just say it was a one tire fire show....


another 05... hmmmm...

HurricaneStang Date 9/1/2006 2:35:25 PM
Well that kinda sucks if the 06 autos can but not the 05's lol. I think im just gonna stop trying until i get the tuner CAI combo im told that will burn em which im looking forward to....Its alittle depressing that my friends 98 stang can burn the tires good and i cant even get a squeak lol.


Mine's a 2005, and I couldn't squeak the tire if my life depended on it. Now with the C&L and xcal2 (Evolution 93 Extreme tune), I can light it up at will. Dead stop, punch it, and spin. Couldn't do that before. The torque at lower RPM's is much improved. Ford should have built it this way in the first place.