Im a 17 year old looking to buy a 07 Roush (stage3) Mustang. I know some of you grown men are going to be saying "how would a 17 year old afford a car like this" and my response is years of working! Ha, but besides that if i get talked into buying it, i will buy it. I was introduced to the stage 3 by looking into the stage 1 and talking to the sales person. As i talked about the upgrade of a supercharger in a GT, which would cost 9,000gs, the sales person asked me about the Roush Stage 3. So anyways is the Roush Stage 3 really worth it for 51, 650? :eek: *Also i went to the dealership to look at the GT500 but that car was running up to 73,000+ = they must be crazy but it is a sweet car :D

If i do get it these would be the additional mods (not specific):
1. CIA
2. CHIP/TUNE
3. ADJUSTED CATBACK/TEST PIPE



if you guys have any suggestions please post i am open minded to everything, thanks.

Welcome to the forums... You might get a better response to your questions in the model specific forum.... :)

For the Stage 3 price I would just get a new Vette.

^ +1 Or a Saleen. I think the Saleen is much better than the Roush overall, but it really depends on what you personally like.

If you do some research online and ask questions in our special stang section for roushes, you should learn a good deal and make the decision that best suits you.

Saleen for the win bro. F roush although there isnt anything wrong with them.

Saleens are nicer.....
9 Grand for a supercharger?!
Dude for us sixers, we can supercharge for about 4 grand....I dont see how it can go up to 9 grand...
How are you going to afford the insurance? No offense, but im 19, and I could afford a GT, but not the insurance!

i say get it, cool cars

ORIGINAL: autie


If i do get it these would be the additional mods (not specific):
1. CIA
2. CHIP/TUNE
3. ADJUSTED CATBACK/TEST PIPE



The stage 3 has these mods done to it already...

Does it come with the modifications?? Such as the CIA & Flash?? Im going to put the car under a company name so it would come out cheaper and i also advise you to get some insurance because thats a [sm=badidea.gif]. Well they put in the SC at the dealership and it comes under warranty which is awesome but i rather have a ROUSH. I looked into saleens and im the type of person that wants the BEST!! and the saleen extreme is the best saleen mustang but a little toooooo far out of my reach.


Also thanks guys for responding to my post and giving a little pony lover some good advice and closure on the car. I would like to pucker up the baby to around 500hp (485+ rwhp) but i cant figure out any other way to get it there with out NOS...

i have a Stage 3 Roush '06 Screaming yellow.

The car is great, I believe way better then the SALEEN, and better then the GT 500. Here is why.

I think the SALEENs lack the true appeal of a mustang the body kit just doesn't work for me. The GT500 is a great car, great motor, to heavy and why pay 70K... You will NEVER get that back Shelby or not. In 20 years Jack Roush will be the next Carol Shelby. And my Stage 3 is one of two that to be produced, and now that Screaming Yellow is out for the new Competition Orange my car is VERY rare. This will be true far ALL of the Stage 3 cars though. Think about it. Carol Shelby built the old Shelby cars at his shop, So does Roush, Carol Shelby was at the top of his game, so is Jack Roush now. He has two Nextel Cup Championships back to back, tunes for Ford, and is helping Ford build and produce cars, Just like Carol Shelby did.

Getting a Stage 3 for 51k is a good deal, mine was 56k+ with all the goodies I got. That is vert, stripes, light bar, tool kit, I think that was it.

The Stage 3's come with a Roush ecm tune for the RoushCharger, cat back, and a Roush intake tube.

As for a Vette over the Roush, NO FN WAY. you can get a bone stock Vette like everyone else for maybe 55k, YIPPY. The Stage 3 with keep up or win. Or you can get a higher end Vette maybe for almost 70k. The Vette has it's place but it certainly is not in my garage.

People keep in mind I am comparing the Stage 3 to a basic model Vette, I don't like the Vette's, but I am not stupid.

Bottom line the Roush Stage 3 is the best bang for the buck.

Haha i guess i made out on a good deal; 06Roush_st_3 if you re-read this forum do you mind telling me on some modifications i can do to the R3 to get it up to 500+ hp? Also your very true about the SALEEN they tend to take the stang and convert it into thier own car and not keeping the nice curves of the body. SALEEN = tooo boxy

Altough I have my doubts about you actually buying a Roush and most of them stem entirely from your typing.

If you really want to make 500+rwhp, the best thing you can do is NOT start with a Stage 3 Roush. The reason is the Roush s/c is one of the least efficient s/c available for the 3v 4.6, it is also too small to readily support high hp. I strongly suggest you do a LOT of research and reading before jumping into this.

Oh im buying it; even tho you doubt it but i already made my decision. I dont know how you can not believe someone over these forums but just to make you happy ill take a picture of it when it comes in :D. Im saying all that because you can still add modifications to the roush and even tho it may have it already how; do you know it wouldnt make the car better. I also said 500hp and not 500rwhp... big difference.

once again if you re enter this post may you tell me why you dont believe me that im getting a roush? Is it because of the age or the senseless talk about the modifications?

Well, if you are getting it then I will believe you. I just take everything on web forums with a grain of salt and even more so when coming from a teenager and when people start talking about extensive modifcations. But 500bhp is hard to measure, there are lots of inaccurate formulas to figure out what your bhp is based on rwhp. Either way I wouldn't start with a Roush, their suspension components are sub-par and the car is overpriced IMO.

Well considering the fact that buying a GT at my dealership for around 30,000k, then adding the supercharger which eqauls to 9,000k. I would be in and out of the shop constantly with additional mods. I think the ROUSH is a rare car; i havent seen many people with R3 stangs; but i have seen SALEENS.

Well, I have less than 10k in mods to my car with the turbo, exhaust, 2k in suspension mods and several appearance mods and 25k for the car, so I stand by my feeling that it is overpriced. But if it's what you want it's your money but for another 15k my car would be running DEEP 9s in the 1/4.

The warranty is overrated. If you supercharge your car outside the dealership you will save 5,000, yes you will void the warranty but only on the MOTOR the rest still has bumper to bumper for 36k miles. Can you seriously go thru 5k in repairs on the motor after making it supercharged?, for 9$ I can get my motor supercharged and fully built with forged pistons and made 5.0. You can get the roush 3 body kit so you still have the looks and get a much better supsension package not to mention much better audio. But hey it is your choice, if you just want the looks just do what my dad did to my mothers mercedes benz. She wanted a S 550, So we got an S 500 and put S550 emblem on the rear and to this date she thinks she has a S550.

Att. Andrew

everyone is right on thier opionion but look the roush is a good investment; GT500 are going for are 20k over list OMG and the ROUSH is right behind the GT500 in 1/4mile. Once again its a collectors item as well; im going to be saying its a ROUSH insted of its a Mustang GT.

The only problem with that is it is still a Mustang, Roush cars don't hold their resale like a Cobra or a Saleen the reason it is a GT with a body kit and some aftermarket upgrades. On Saleens, Saleen is actually considered the manufacturer Roush is considered an aftermarket upfitter like a customizing company for conversion vans. IMO if you want to spend the money look at a Steeda Q, much better suspension and a built motor that makes the HP you want straight from Steeda.

well ROUSH is going to surpass caroll shelby; shelby did the same thing took cars and put in a bigger motor. Thats all the Base Price: 2006 Ford Mustang Steeda Q 525 - $62,000 now if you want to send over another 10k for me please feel free. But thats no reach for me and i dont think its fair for a 17 year old with a 60k car... 50k neither but hey IMO.

ROUSH got good ratings and i like the car; and i cant change my mind now; already on its way; so either its take it or leave it.

So how are you affording a 50k car when you're 17?

ORIGINAL: autie

well ROUSH is going to surpass caroll shelby; shelby did the same thing took cars and put in a bigger motor. Thats all the Base Price: 2006 Ford Mustang Steeda Q 525 - $62,000 now if you want to send over another 10k for me please feel free. But thats no reach for me and i dont think its fair for a 17 year old with a 60k car... 50k neither but hey IMO.

ROUSH got good ratings and i like the car; and i cant change my mind now; already on its way; so either its take it or leave it.


You are spectulating alot about roush surpassing caroll shelby which I really really doubt. That is unless Roush can win 2 Lemans or more like shelby did finishing 1,2,3. Shelby cars are a racing legend pint end of story. Also the only reason because the gt500 is overpriced is because it just got released. If you take economics it is all about supply and demand. There is a lot of demand for the car right now. If I am not mistaken the first one sold for around 200k on auction. Just wait 6 months or so and you will see how the price will drop to around 40ishK. Your main reason to buying a roush is all on the presumption that they will become the next shelby. Someone doesn´t become an auto legend from night to morning and dont expect roush to do so. Why dont you stick with the numbers on the car? Roush is an aftermarket moder, saleen is considered a manufacturer, not to mention saleen is a much more reputable and recognized name that is why more people by the saleen than the roush.

If you indeed are getting it, id like to know what the hell youve been doing and say good luck not killing yourself. Thats alot of horsepower. I got my 04 GT a coupe monthes ago. Im 16 not far off from 17, but the first thing i did was take it on I75 for the top speed test. 140+ mph almost hitting a semi scared the **** out of me and im sure if i would have had an extra 250 hp i would've been going much faster. Nobody that has a mustang pussy foots around with the gas and thats not what im asking you to do but dont exceed your abilities or your investment and your life might be over. So good luck with that.

ORIGINAL: 1QuickShortBus

The only problem with that is it is still a Mustang, Roush cars don't hold their resale like a Cobra or a Saleen the reason it is a GT with a body kit and some aftermarket upgrades. On Saleens, Saleen is actually considered the manufacturer Roush is considered an aftermarket upfitter like a customizing company for conversion vans. IMO if you want to spend the money look at a Steeda Q, much better suspension and a built motor that makes the HP you want straight from Steeda.


You should also know when you are selling a car you gotta strip out all the mods you have made and sell them piece by piece. Modding a shelby, roush or anything similar you wont get the money you put into it same as with any other car. All I am saying that if you want to mod the car, for example for 10k I can do ALL of the mods a stage 3 has and with better components and more efficient supercharger. So then it would be what? 35k total?, in 3 years I can sell the parts for around 6k give or take. and the car for around 18k I suppose give or take. thats is 24k out of a 35k investment. So you are telling me the 55k stage 3 will sell for 44k after 2 years? I seriously doubt it. 35k vs 55k your choice, but like I said if you just want a stage 3 just because for the name then go for it. If you really want performance you do it yourself.

Att. Andrew

look basically the R3 comes with all that jazz; I may just put between 50 to 100 shot and the chemical boost intercooler; thats 100+hp right there. = 485rwhp+

on nitrous 500rwhp is ez, I am just saying if you plan to mod it excesively the R3 is NOT a good buy at all. Roush comes with 415hp and 385 torque. For the ammount they charge it is really weak. Just getting a centrifugal supercharger for example a vortech for 4.4k intecooled with injectors gives u 150-200 hp. that pumps it up to 460-510hp on a stock GT with just 4.4k in parts and with labor take it to 30k. So 30k total on a stock gt already smokes the stage 3. Roush or not, I dont go by name, I go by numbers and I think 95% of the people are behind me on that. Oh also before I forget the gt500 does have a BIGGER engine it is not the 4.6L like the Stage 3 so expect to be blown away by any gt500 with just a pulley change. This is what it includes The stage 3 inclues:
CORE COMPONENTS - $21,000 + S&H
ROUSHcharged 4.6L powertrain system
ROUSH 7 Piece Aerobody Kit
Lower Valance Fog Lamps
ROUSH 18-Inch Forged Chrome Wheel & Ultra-High Performance Tires
ROUSH Rear Exit High Performance Exhaust w/ Chromed Tips
ROUSH Fender Badges
ROUSH Decklid Emblem
ROUSH Embroidered Floor Mats
ROUSH Front Windshield Banner
ROUSH Billet Aluminum Shifter Handle
ROUSH Pedals w/ Dead Pedal
ROUSH Stage 3 White Face Gauge Cluster
ROUSH Stage 3 Sport Leather Seating
ROUSH Suspension System
ROUSH Brake Kit
ROUSH Serialized Engine Bay Plaque

NOt to mention they charge exta for:
Mustang Racing Stripes - $530
Interior Dash Trim Kit - $350
Quarter Window Louvers - $315
Locking Lug Nuts - $60
Convertible Light Bar - $910
Billet Aluminum Shift Knob w/ Grips - $63
Short Throw Shifter - $340
Short Throw Shifter w/ Chrome Shifter Arm and White Ball Knob - $445
Short Throw Shifter w/ Chrome Shifter Arm and Black Ball Knob - $445
Trunk Mounted Tool Kit - $295
Door Sill Plates - $57

On a summary I still dont see where the 30k extra for a stage 3 are.

Att. Andrew

There is no way Roush will surpase Shelby. On the track maybe, as Roush is dominating the nextel cup curcuit. Shelby was the first person/company to sell brand new modified mustangs. Which makes them all the more unique. Roush is in highly competitive market with companies like Steeda, Saleen, etc. Though they are a very nice car, there is no reason to think that they will surpass their other compition. My grandfather just sold his 1969 Shelby GT500 Conv. 428 SCJ for 200k. No way will a Roush sell for thirty times its original value forty years from now. The car that you can buy today that will be the most collectable will be the GT500. Look at how well the OEM cars like the 03/04 Cobra's or 2000 Cobra R's retain their value comparied to Saleens or Roushs from the same year.

The car will be awesome but just don't compare it to a classic shelby.

you make alot of sense and i know where your comming from; but WARRANTY plays a big part as well; im a 16 year old turning 17 in about 2 weeks. The car would be here before i drive haha; but the point is i dont have time and the money; im going to be paying 416/42 months for this car as well as insurance. I can build any car from the ground up because i know people who have done it and have done it well; a good friend of mine, his dad a has a chevy malibu running around 10s all day on motor. So if i wanted to build a car from the ground up it would be alot of money because i simply would want the best.

I just can't see how anyone thinks a Roush Mustang will be as valuable as a vintage Shelby. Remember, vintage Shelbys went through the 70's as 'used' cars. Carroll also built the Cobra 260/289/427 and had a hand in Ford winning LeMans with the GT40 program. In this day and age things are 'pre-sold' as collectibles even before they've reached the market(biggest way to lose money-example the ZR-1 'Vette). The '07 Shelby may or may not be as collectible as enthusiasts are hoping for. Although it is a
Ford product and has a huge network in support. Besides the Shelby with the S/C 5.4L will ALWAYS have more potential than the
4.6L in all other variations(Roush/Saleen/Steeda) of Mustangs. Heck a Saleen 281E makes 550hp with a handbuilt engine with
expensive internals, that's a pulley change for an '07 GT500. When I was 17, I too thought I knew it all, but hey if you can afford, get what your heart desires. Just don't come crying when in 10 years when that 50K+ Roush3 is worth 20K or less. I lusted after an '82
when I turned 17, everyone thought that would be the last hurrah for performance cars.....hmmmmmmmm what are '82 GT's going for now? I say do your research(with supervision-you are a minor! j/k) and homework and I'm sure you'll make a decision best
for your current situation. Although we'll never predict the future, look at recent Roush products and see where they're at value-wise.
Good luck with your decision. I choose GT500!

can you please read the post instead of talking blabberish?????? 418$ a month for 42 months LOL how much did u put on downpayment?? 30k? haha as I told you before if you supercharge a car the only warranty you void is the one on the motor. The electronics, bumper to bumper warranty is still in effect. As you have been told time after time and I just posted a list of the options the car has. With 30k in options you could be running 600rwhp all day w/o breaking not to mention much better interior, exterior and the best suspension money can buy. You are paying 30k extra for crap I gave u the list of things that is different on the car. You cant tell me that short list is worth 30k, hell they charge 450$ for a chrome shortshifter and 500 for the racing stripes that cost 100$. The supercharger is crap and cant go that better because it is NOT efficient. last but not least a chevy malibu running 10's on motor alone if that is true it is not a daily driver unless your "friends" dad drives it with no upholstery, rear seats, a/c, power steering among other deletes. and a daily driver?? numbers just dont add up bro. 418 a month thats 20k only Without interest or anythinge. Are you sure you bought a stage 3 roush and not a VW jetta?? haha

Andrew

35k down = 416/42months; and no his car is a drag car. But dude i understand and i like the fact that your trying to help me out but i really do like the car and i have the money. I have seen all the stuff the R3 come wiht on roushpref.com; also im still in highschool i dont care if i can get 500+ rwhp but the fact is its going to be TIME IN THE SHOP for the car! Your telling me all this when your dad bought an S500 and put S550; doesnt make sense trying to show you have money? I am buying the car for the overall look and i feel in love with. There are other R3 owners that adore the car.

Get the Stage 3 Roush.I have a 2006.Great car!...This website has a Saleen bias.The new Shelby is a faster car,but you seem satisfied that you want the Roush...get it.The resale value is probably less ,but you won't sell it for a long time.I get many compliments on the car.The RoushS/C and the4.6 liter is a great match.Alot of folks don't care much for this roots style blower(don't let these guys bust your balloon)...I don't see anything wrong,myself and this isn't my first blown car.The suspension is much better than a stock GT.I don't care much for plastic hood scoops that have no real function(but each to his own).You will love this car...and probably get more than one speeding ticket,initially until the initial excitment wears off.You'll likely get laid more as well

There you go androdz and by the way what car are you spooling??

17 years old
485hp mustang
100 shot
whats this equal you ask??
IMO an obituary.. get a beater, fix it up then have pride in it because you did the work not some manufacturing company that makes carbon copy cars for differant drivers

ORIGINAL: autie

Haha i guess i made out on a good deal; 06Roush_st_3 if you re-read this forum do you mind telling me on some modifications i can do to the R3 to get it up to 500+ hp? Also your very true about the SALEEN they tend to take the stang and convert it into thier own car and not keeping the nice curves of the body. SALEEN = tooo boxy



I am not sure what will get you 500 HP, but I do think you should rebuild the bottom end of the block for 500hp especially 500rwhp. At least if you want to drive it for a while.

You should be able to take the boost up to at least 8, that alone should get you close to 500. This is my first Charged car so I haven't played much yet.

My car is also a vert with the $1k light bar, the Coupes are less $$. But my car is much more rare.

ORIGINAL: 1QuickShortBus

Well, if you are getting it then I will believe you. I just take everything on web forums with a grain of salt and even more so when coming from a teenager and when people start talking about extensive modifcations. But 500bhp is hard to measure, there are lots of inaccurate formulas to figure out what your bhp is based on rwhp. Either way I wouldn't start with a Roush, their suspension components are sub-par and the car is overpriced IMO.



You should check out my car before you say that Roush suspension is sub-par. My car handles great!!! and I have a 98 GT with LOTS of Maximum Motorsports stuff, and H&R springs. Maybe in the past, but considering Roush is a top Nextel Cup racing team I think they know what's up.

They are saying the Jack Roush is the next up and comming Carroll Shelby; i would get a beater but i hate waiting for my car to get out of the shop. Not everyone has a R3!!!

Who's saying Jack Roush is the next Carroll Shelby? That's like saying George W. is the next George Washington! Roush is a team owner with Ford backing, he's a great manager, but the next Carroll Shelby? They don't make men like good 'ol Carroll anymore, not considered P.C.. Jack's Huevos aren't anywhere near as large as Carroll's, so watch what you think and think what you say. Next Carroll Shelby?! I might just have to forward this to get some good laugh tracks. Ahhhh the ignorance of youth. Just jump in your 50K Mustang, chase some tail and hopefully get some, 'cause you be ill'in.

Yes, I do agree. Roush, Saleen and Steeda have all done their homework in regards to setting up the Mustang to handle extremely well. Saleen and Steeda on the racetracks and Roush with their close association with Ford. On another note, does anyone remember
Roush's first attempt with the Mustang for general consumption(excluding the stillborn 25th anniversary twinturbo 351 GT of 1989)?The late'94/'95 GT with the weird intake setup? It drew air from the back of a special hood through a unique intake manifold. Not too many exist and not many were sold over the counter, just too little for too much. Besides the 5.0L was dead by then(in new Mustangs). I do not agree with Roush's pieces being subpar, but then again, everyone has their unique experiences with different products. I don't think anyone can go wrong buying from a reputable manufacturer, just need to remember to 'match' parts to one another to get the best overall effect.

ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

Who's saying Jack Roush is the next Carroll Shelby? That's like saying George W. is the next George Washington! Roush is a team owner with Ford backing, he's a great manager, but the next Carroll Shelby? They don't make men like good 'ol Carroll anymore, not considered P.C.. Jack's Huevos aren't anywhere near as large as Carroll's, so watch what you think and think what you say. Next Carroll Shelby?! I might just have to forward this to get some good laugh tracks. Ahhhh the ignorance of youth. Just jump in your 50K Mustang, chase some tail and hopefully get some, 'cause you be ill'in.


Well that was directly from one of the sales person's that told me that Jack Roush is the next upcomming Mr. Shelby; to tell you the truth FROM WHAT I KNOW; they both are doing the same thing make something out of nothing. They are all Performance Modifying clubs; show who you want because at the end im right. They put better/bigger/badder engines engines in car for people who want to have the power but not go through all the stress themeselfs. http://www.mustangheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=780&goto=nextnewest << educate yourself. Either way you put it they are both legends in their own ways.

ORIGINAL: autie

35k down = 416/42months; and no his car is a drag car. But dude i understand and i like the fact that your trying to help me out but i really do like the car and i have the money. I have seen all the stuff the R3 come wiht on roushpref.com; also im still in highschool i dont care if i can get 500+ rwhp but the fact is its going to be TIME IN THE SHOP for the car! Your telling me all this when your dad bought an S500 and put S550; doesnt make sense trying to show you have money? I am buying the car for the overall look and i feel in love with. There are other R3 owners that adore the car.


My dad put the S550 emblem because my mother wanted an s550 just because of what it is and we knew that she would never note the difference. So she just wanted the s550 to say that she got an s550 that is the main reason. You are saying that roush mustangs will be worth the same as shelby cars and I am saying chances are entirely against you. Then you go with the you want to mod it statement. But personally the funnest part is your first post when you want to put the central intelligence agency, exaust and a chip?? to the car. That was classic!

Att. Andrew

ORIGINAL: xzo6

Get the Stage 3 Roush.I have a 2006.Great car!...This website has a Saleen bias.The new Shelby is a faster car,but you seem satisfied that you want the Roush...get it.The resale value is probably less ,but you won't sell it for a long time.I get many compliments on the car.The RoushS/C and the4.6 liter is a great match.Alot of folks don't care much for this roots style blower(don't let these guys bust your balloon)...I don't see anything wrong,myself and this isn't my first blown car.The suspension is much better than a stock GT.I don't care much for plastic hood scoops that have no real function(but each to his own).You will love this car...and probably get more than one speeding ticket,initially until the initial excitment wears off.You'll likely get laid more as well


The main reason we have against a roots style blower is that it is NOT efficient.

Att. Andrew

ORIGINAL: 06Roush_st_3


ORIGINAL: 1QuickShortBus

Well, if you are getting it then I will believe you. I just take everything on web forums with a grain of salt and even more so when coming from a teenager and when people start talking about extensive modifcations. But 500bhp is hard to measure, there are lots of inaccurate formulas to figure out what your bhp is based on rwhp. Either way I wouldn't start with a Roush, their suspension components are sub-par and the car is overpriced IMO.



You should check out my car before you say that Roush suspension is sub-par. My car handles great!!! and I have a 98 GT with LOTS of Maximum Motorsports stuff, and H&R springs. Maybe in the past, but considering Roush is a top Nextel Cup racing team I think they know what's up.


What does nextel cup has to do with a mustang??????? Last time I checked there is no mustang on nascar. If you really want pride you need to win lemans with the street version of the cars, not custom built roll-cage car with plexiglass panels pretending to be an actual car.

ORIGINAL: autie


ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

Who's saying Jack Roush is the next Carroll Shelby? That's like saying George W. is the next George Washington! Roush is a team owner with Ford backing, he's a great manager, but the next Carroll Shelby? They don't make men like good 'ol Carroll anymore, not considered P.C.. Jack's Huevos aren't anywhere near as large as Carroll's, so watch what you think and think what you say. Next Carroll Shelby?! I might just have to forward this to get some good laugh tracks. Ahhhh the ignorance of youth. Just jump in your 50K Mustang, chase some tail and hopefully get some, 'cause you be ill'in.


Well that was directly from one of the sales person's that told me that Jack Roush is the next upcomming Mr. Shelby; to tell you the truth FROM WHAT I KNOW; they both are doing the same thing make something out of nothing. They are all Performance Modifying clubs; show who you want because at the end im right. They put better/bigger/badder engines engines in car for people who want to have the power but not go through all the stress themeselfs. http://www.mustangheaven.com/forums/showthread.php?t=780&goto=nextnewest << educate yourself. Either way you put it they are both legends in their own ways.


LOL BETTER/BIGGER/BADDER ENGINES ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL(....Drops to floor to laugh a bit more....Rolls around......Finally gets back up to type) It is the same engine 4.6L 3 valve with an inefficient roots blower. When I finish with mounting the procharger on my stang, not to mention with an air to air intercooler made to fit. It will run merry go arounds any stage 3 roush oh and that is with still 25k to do in mods. Don´t know maybe Ill get gold plated rims or something like that

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thats funny but you still didnt tell us about your car.

Get the R3...it's a good car but do not expect it to even up to Shelby ever. The salesman told you that because it's obviously what you wanted to hear. After you left he probably laughed his ass off because some 16 year old kid just believed that Roush was going to be the next Shelby...just like I'm going to laugh my ass off when my '67 is worth more than your '06. Buy Roush because it's a fun, good looking, fast car not because it's a good investment.

ORIGINAL: 67Sally

Get the R3...it's a good car but do not expect it to even up to Shelby ever. The salesman told you that because it's obviously what you wanted to hear. After you left he probably laughed his ass off because some 16 year old kid just believed that Roush was going to be the next Shelby...just like I'm going to laugh my ass off when my '67 is worth more than your '06. Buy Roush because it's a fun, good looking, fast car not because it's a good investment.


wow i guess making an OPINION that Roush is the next Shelby; makes people feel uncomfortable; im not going to buy this car because i want to make a profit off of it. Im buying this car because i like it. But i like the fact that your "'67 Sally" would be worth than a roush the cool good for you; but advise from me "get her done first before you put your 2 cents in about car value". Im not some poor bastard that tries to get money out of a car. I mess with cars as a hobby; and by the way Jack Roush is in the HOF and i think hes is in for a good reason. Nascar Sponsor; as a ford contributor.

i really dont like nascar i think its pretty gay a bunch of ugly cars driving in circles. I think the last gen roush cars looked better. you could put a kenne bell on 2v gt and put out the same rwhp as a roush at around 13 psi. Your obviously not going for power. i dont believe u will get this car for a secong and if you do insurance will kill you. if you do you probably will die or crash. maybe both. You wont be real cool when u wreck ur car. Roush chargers arent incredible the car is not incredible. Sure its cool. But not awesome. For half the money you could by a car with real lines instead of a retro looking car, mod the hell out of it, have pride in it, and be real bad ass. IMO if you really had the car on the way you wouldnt be arguing with us about getting it because you would already have it. Roush=bodykit+****charger+emblem that doesnt equal 50k+ to me buthey do what u want its your money but you could have a lot cooler car if u put some work into it

ORIGINAL: Emanpimpster

i really dont like nascar i think its pretty gay a bunch of ugly cars driving in circles. I think the last gen roush cars looked better. you could put a kenne bell on 2v gt and put out the same rwhp as a roush at around 13 psi. Your obviously not going for power. i dont believe u will get this car for a secong and if you do insurance will kill you. if you do you probably will die or crash. maybe both. You wont be real cool when u wreck ur car. Roush chargers arent incredible the car is not incredible. Sure its cool. But not awesome. For half the money you could by a car with real lines instead of a retro looking car, mod the hell out of it, have pride in it, and be real bad ass. IMO if you really had the car on the way you wouldnt be arguing with us about getting it because you would already have it. Roush=bodykit+****charger+emblem that doesnt equal 50k+ to me buthey do what u want its your money but you could have a lot cooler car if u put some work into it



yea maybe if you read through all the post but you never know; i guess i have to put up pictures when i get it [:-]

First of all using cars as an investment does not make you a "poor bastard", that's just an ignorant comment.

Second of all I told you to get the Roush, it's a great car and you'll be happy with it but I'm telling you to stop comparing it to Shelby because although it doesn't matter on the internet you will make yourself look ignorant when talking to knowledegable people face to face.

Who cares if Roush is a NASCAR sponsor...Viagara is too, it doesn't mean anything

I wish I could comment on this sentence...
"But i like the fact that your "'67 Sally" would be worth than a roush the cool good for you; but advise from me "get her done first before you put your 2 cents in about car value".
...but it made absolutely no sense.

ORIGINAL: 67Sally

First of all using cars as an investment does not make you a "poor bastard", that's just an ignorant comment.

Second of all I told you to get the Roush, it's a great car and you'll be happy with it but I'm telling you to stop comparing it to Shelby because although it doesn't matter on the internet you will make yourself look ignorant when talking to knowledegable people face to face.

Who cares if Roush is a NASCAR sponsor...Viagara is too, it doesn't mean anything

I wish I could comment on this sentence...
"But i like the fact that your "'67 Sally" would be worth than a roush the cool good for you; but advise from me "get her done first before you put your 2 cents in about car value".
...but it made absolutely no sense.



sorry you didnt get my comment as you should have gotten it: i mean your talking about car value when your CAR isnt even completed i saw your pictures and your sally isnt up to standards. But i like the fact you agreed with me on the roush.

People i am talking about the roush because im getting one: Black on Black: and i was just wondering if i am making a good investment people say no people say yes; i think yes. I just hate when people underestimate young men and their power and knowledge.

??????? Young men with power and knowledge? Why don't you put a gun to your head now? You seem to "know it all", so what's the point of living? Geez... and this is our youth? So the salesman told you, huh? Yeah, I have some beach front property just outside of 'Vegas for cheap! I think YOU need to educate yourself(with printed literature that was thoroughly researched before going to press) and not some chatroom with other under 21(new booties) I mean, so called experts, and then make your assessment on Mr Roush and Mr Shelby. I'm sure Mr Roush himself wouldn't be comfortable with your "assessments". Like I said, get your car, get laid(finally) and I'm sure your perspective will drastically change. Come on! Sign that loan agreement and start your life! Come back in 10 years and maybe we'll believe you.:)

Bro I'm 17 too and i worked 4 years straight to pay for my 01 sixer in full, 9K.
so how can u afford a new roush??? I can barely afford my insurance and gas making $9/hr.

also, man, getting a car at that much power at our age is a death wish. Dont get me wrong id love to have that car but its too much.

I knew of this one girl, whose dad bought her a viper on her 18th birthday. she lasted 2 weeks in the car b4 she crashed it and was killed. i know vipers have so much more hp but thats not the point.

just make the right desicision. if u have the money to afford and make payments just buy like a 03-04 GT or cobra and mod that.

[quote]ORIGINAL: 06Roush_st_3

i have a Stage 3 Roush '06 Screaming yellow.

The car is great, I believe way better then the SALEEN, and better then the GT 500. Here is why.[ul]
I think the SALEENs lack the true appeal of a mustang the body kit just doesn't work for me. The GT500 is a great car, great motor, to heavy and why pay 70K... You will NEVER get that back Shelby or not. In 20 years Jack Roush will be the next Carol Shelby. And my Stage 3 is one of two that to be produced, and now that Screaming Yellow is out for the new Competition Orange my car is VERY rare. This will be true far ALL of the Stage 3 cars though. Think about it. Carol Shelby built the old Shelby cars at his shop, So does Roush, Carol Shelby was at the top of his game, so is Jack Roush now. He has two Nextel Cup Championships back to back, tunes for Ford, and is helping Ford build and produce cars, Just like Carol Shelby did.

Ahhh... Carroll Shelby raced his GT350R's to B-production class championships at the expense of Chevy's 'Vette, since when does Jack Roush field a Roush Mustang racing team? I mean Steedas/Saleens/Roushs are all very nice cars, but they're boutique cars. Turn
key ready made for the masses. A GT500 is a legitimate production vehicle, I realize Saleen qualifies as a manufacturer, but come on, since when does Saleen have a dealership network that's not located in a Ford dealership, with Ford mechanics doing all the work?
I mean, maybe, just maybe your Roush Stage 3 will but worth something in 40+ years, look at the Yenko products from the late 60's.
Then again, Mr Yenko put in engines that Chevy(initially) wouldn't put in Camaros/Novas/Chevelles and then we're talking about COPO cars($$$$$$). Mr Roush/Mr Saleen/Mr Steeda won't/can't do this. They just supercharge a Mustang add some graphics and slap on suspension/brakes and larger tire/wheels and charge a severe price. Anyone can farm out any late model Mustang and have this done for much, much less(if one does their proper homework). When someone buys an aforementioned Mustang(s) they want the look and response(from others) to justify their purchase. Do you think a hard working stiff would puck down 50K+ for a Mustang?
When can buy a Mustang GT for 25-28K, add wheels/suspension for 5K(installed) and supercharger for 6K(installed) and a painted body kit of choice for 3K(installed), you'd have a seriously bitch'n 'Stang for under 40K with that exact same Roush/Saleen/Steeda or whatever body kit you'd like look. Also you have the luxury of doing all at once or in increments. Hey, it's your money, if you have it flaunt it(if that's your bag). I just bought some 20" American Racing Shelby Signature Series 'Razor" wheels and some Kumho 255/35WR20 tires for under $1350.00(installed) all brand new, all warranted. You just have to look. Now I think I'll buy those new lowering springs on E-Bay for $99.00........The old saying goes...."A fool and his money are soon parted". Enjoy;)

ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

??????? Young men with power and knowledge? Why don't you put a gun to your head now? You seem to "know it all", so what's the point of living? Geez... and this is our youth? So the salesman told you, huh? Yeah, I have some beach front property just outside of 'Vegas for cheap! I think YOU need to educate yourself(with printed literature that was thoroughly researched before going to press) and not some chatroom with other under 21(new booties) I mean, so called experts, and then make your assessment on Mr Roush and Mr Shelby. I'm sure Mr Roush himself wouldn't be comfortable with your "assessments". Like I said, get your car, get laid(finally) and I'm sure your perspective will drastically change. Come on! Sign that loan agreement and start your life! Come back in 10 years and maybe we'll believe you.:)

Quit stereotyping. Just because he's young doesn't mean that all teens are like him or that others aren't knowledgeable.

Since when does stating an "opinion" on what's been posted so far, equate to "stereotyping". Show me a mature, responsible and self-supporting teen with all the knowledge in the world and I'll stop making "opinions". I'm sure a handful exist, but I'm sure(an opinion) they wouldn't spew out crap like some teens we have seen on this forum. Good luck on your '67(great year)

ORIGINAL: 05gtdriver

??????? Young men with power and knowledge? Why don't you put a gun to your head now? You seem to "know it all", so what's the point of living? Geez... and this is our youth? So the salesman told you, huh? Yeah, I have some beach front property just outside of 'Vegas for cheap! I think YOU need to educate yourself(with printed literature that was thoroughly researched before going to press) and not some chatroom with other under 21(new booties) I mean, so called experts, and then make your assessment on Mr Roush and Mr Shelby. I'm sure Mr Roush himself wouldn't be comfortable with your "assessments". Like I said, get your car, get laid(finally) and I'm sure your perspective will drastically change. Come on! Sign that loan agreement and start your life! Come back in 10 years and maybe we'll believe you.:)
Teen or not no one knows everything. I'm 15 and I know a considerable amount more than some people on this forum and a whole lot less than others. 17, 25, 50...idiots are everywhere, this one just happens to be 16.

Yes, I agree. Thanks for enlightening me on our youth. Good luck with that '67.:D

ha thats true '67.
u just dont stop being a retard or asshole b/c u turn 20 or 60 or 100.

Yeah, you just become a wiser one(hahaha):D

ORIGINAL: autie

thats funny but you still didnt tell us about your car.


I already said I got an 05 GT that I am putting a procharger with an air to air intercooler.

ORIGINAL: autie


ORIGINAL: Emanpimpster

i really dont like nascar i think its pretty gay a bunch of ugly cars driving in circles. I think the last gen roush cars looked better. you could put a kenne bell on 2v gt and put out the same rwhp as a roush at around 13 psi. Your obviously not going for power. i dont believe u will get this car for a secong and if you do insurance will kill you. if you do you probably will die or crash. maybe both. You wont be real cool when u wreck ur car. Roush chargers arent incredible the car is not incredible. Sure its cool. But not awesome. For half the money you could by a car with real lines instead of a retro looking car, mod the hell out of it, have pride in it, and be real bad ass. IMO if you really had the car on the way you wouldnt be arguing with us about getting it because you would already have it. Roush=bodykit+****charger+emblem that doesnt equal 50k+ to me buthey do what u want its your money but you could have a lot cooler car if u put some work into it



yea maybe if you read through all the post but you never know; i guess i have to put up pictures when i get it [:-]


I can take some pictures of my neighbors Carrerra Gt and tell you all is mine but most of you wont believe me. And if you did put 35k down payment that says alot about your financial intelect. You are loosing 2.8k in interests if you had it invested for say in UBS @ 8% interest and just get a new car loan from penfed.org at 5%. that is making ur money produce. YOu did say roush was gonna be the next shelby and that their car were gonna jump in value. I repeat again, NASCAR has nothing to do with PRODUCTION CARS. I do not know how to tell it to you in any other way. If you want to see what a aftermarket producer can do like shelby did back in the days. Go and win Lemans with the production car.

Att. Andrew

Hello androdz,
What's the cost on the ProCharger? I've heard great things about the ProCharger ever since they stopped putting in belts and changed over to gears. I have an '05 GT and I'm considering something in the next few years(yes, I'm keeping my mileage down).
ps I have a great connect on getting 20"(and 18s as well) American Racing Shelby Razor wheels- like the ones to the right
on this website on the blue '05 on the popups-$179.00 for 20X9's, $166.00 for 18X9s through a friend who's a distributor for A R. Yes all legit and guaranteed. I just bought a set of 20"s for $744.00 delivered. Take it easy

The procharger with injectors, fuel pump and everything except the intercooler costed me 3.3k on ebay. I bought everything seperately because you cant get so much better components doing the kit yourself. The intercooler I had it custom made for 650 with the exact measurements of my front bumper. The piping so far is costing me 200$ and It is not done, might finish at around 100$ extra. SO give/take 4.1kish. Not to mention so far I have spent 28k for the gt premium with all options. 4.1k for the supercharger, 700 for complete borla exhaust with xpipes, 400 for jba headers, 350 for the sct tuner. 800 for complete suspension package and 100 for lower control arms. So I am right now at 34kish. Still under the 55k for a roush and will smoke any roush it encounters since my supercharger is much more efficient and is capable of much more boost. Maybe I will get the block completely done and still have 20k saved lol.

Att. Andrew

I'm with you brotha, I'd rather do it myself and save, save, save! Yeah, I'm hooked on E-Bay myself, have you heard anything on those springs that are listed on E-Bay for '05 Mustangs for "Buy Now Price" of $99.00? That's more than half of Eibachs(more like a 1/3). Definitely, a smoking fast S197 for under 35K! You can also sneak up on those unsuspecting 'boutique' Mustangs and embarrass them as they drive to the credit union/bank. Good luck!

Go buy your Roush and add a 100 shot. I'll let Darwin take care of the rest.

a roush with a 100 shot will never catch up to a gt500 with a pulley change, not to mention, the gt500 will keep the hp for all the passes, as the pressure goes down on the bottle you get less and less hp, not to mention if the bottle is cold that is another hassle. Oh did I almost forget it will only last for like 6 passes or so??.

Att. Andrew