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New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 8:32:01 PM   
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I've just started my new 289!!!!! I've got a new Water pump, thermostat, hoses..etc, My question is....the motor seems to run hot after 10 minutes. It's up to about 7/8 on the gauge, it's a factory installed gauge w/o numbers. I still have the car up on jack stands and the motor is timed and idles beautifully at about 450 RPM. I'm getting a lot of smoke from my new exhaust manifold to pipe donuts but I',m told this happens. How should I proceed? The manufacturer says run it at 1800 RPM for 20 min. I don't like that. My fluid levels are correct and I'm running the motor at 5 min. intervals to see if I can bring the temperature into acceptable limits...Should I drive it? How fast and how far? Can I hook up the A/C? Any other tips from you guys-what-knows-lots-more-than-me? Feel free to PM me I need all the help I can get!...THANKS!!!!
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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 8:45:59 PM   
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Give it a shot at what your builder says. If he's wrong and something goes wrong on the motor he's going to have to fix it.

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 9:00:56 PM   
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Gee here's a thought....get a gauge that actually reads the temp and not c______h, then follow the manufactures cam break in proceedure properly before you have to build another motor.

Don't run it on stands, run it on the ground, outside in the driveway, and water down the radiator with the hose while doing it to keep it cool. Breaking in a motor generates a lot of heat.

After you complete the proper break in proceedure, change the oil and drive it a mile or two. If you are still running hot, check the thermostat, check the waterpump, check the flow through the radiator, etc

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 9:12:23 PM   
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First, you need to get some air over the radiator, a big industrial fan would help. the A/C condensor makes it dificult for a fresh engine sitting stationary to pull a good amount of air through so anything you can do to help it is going to be a plus.

Second, unless you have a roller cam, it is imparitive that you follow the engine companies advice and run it at 1,800-2,000 rpm for 20 minutes. This is how you "break-in" a non-roller cam. Failure to do this will result in wiping out the cam lobes, and void your warranty. So quit doing the 5 minute stints and follow instructions! Hopefully you haven't all ready damaged the cam.

It's going to get hot running at that rpm for 20 minutes, so you need to have the car in the driveway and keep a water hose running, get a mechanical temp gauge and temporarilly install it in place of your electric sending unit, then just zip-tie it over to the side, somewhere where you can watch it. If the engine gets over 200, use the water hose on the lower half of the radiator to keep it under 200. If you can't keep it under 220F shut it down and find out whats wrong. Keep a sharp ear out for strange noises, especially whistling noises, that's a very bad sign, and you need to shut it off quickly.
Not to worry though, if it starts that whistle noise and you don't catch it, it will shut itself off permantly... in short order.

After 20 minutes of running at 1800-2000 rpms, bring it back to idle for a couple of minutes then shut it down. Let it cool off until the engine is flat cold. Look for leaks, and clean things up.

As to break in, go ahead and hook up the A/C just keep an eye on your temp gauge. The key to proper break-in is "load-unload" and heat/cool cycling. Follow the engine manufactures instructions. I prefer to keep the first 500 miles to short stints of less than 50 miles of driving followed by a complete cool down to ambient temperature. But that is mostly so I can get 200K+ miles without any issues. Most rebuilders are not that stringent.

Oh, and congratulations. Now don't mess it up!

Good luck,

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 9:16:04 PM   
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first thing your idle is way to low it should idle between 800 and 900 rpm. at 450 you problelly have next to no water flow not to mention the fan is not pulling any air thru the radidator ether. I work at an engine shop and when a new engine hits the dyno after timing and and all that it runs at 2000 rpm for an hour before we do any pulls on it.

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 9:44:26 PM   
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Thanks guys.and maybe a gal!.lol.. First how do I hook up a "Mechanical Temp gauge"? What kind of temp. gauge and where can I buy one? Isn't idling at 900 RPM a bit much for regular idle? Thanks again!

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 10:06:47 PM   
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800-900 in by the manual I have I have mine idled at 850

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 10:18:17 PM   
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Any auto parts house will have a temperature gauge. Doesn't have to be mechanical.
Either way the gauge will come with instructions.
And you might want to put it underdash after the initial breakin, until you can get a good read on your stock gauge. The stock gauge is consistent, you just need to figure out exactly what it is telling you. Otherwise mount the aftermarket gauge permanently.

850 in neutral will drop to about 750 in gear. Turn on the A/C and it will drop further. That's a reasonable idle.

Have fun!

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 10:25:37 PM   
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Thanks lover 66 and Scott H. What manual do you have lover 66?

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RE: New motor break-in - 8/9/2006 10:36:21 PM   
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RE: New motor break-in - 8/10/2006 12:29:45 AM   
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Would you have to break in a motor like this if it is freshly rebuilt? My dad and I just had our 351 windsor rebuilt and will be putting it back in hopefully in a week or so.

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