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RE: no2 question - 8/11/2006 5:50:56 PM
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Twister086
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i talked to a N.O.S. rep back in march thru email about why there kit is limited to 75hp. because i want the NOS kit to push 125hp i will copy and paste his answer for you:
Hello,
Yes the solenoids will flow up to 150HP. However when the kit was
design there were no colder spark plugs or timing control devices
available so the kit was set up with a max of 75HP jets.
Thanks
Shane Whitescarver
NOS Technical
Service Representative
Your question was:
hey i was wondering with your new 2005 mustang GT wet kit if its
possible to use your jets upto a 150hp shot. or would i need bigger
selenoids and jets? i want to use your product but i need more nitrous then
75hp...
If you have further questions, please reply directly to this email with
history without altering the subject line.
just to be safe i think I'm going to get a kenne-bell boost-a-pump before i install my nitrous with anything more then 75hp... anybody have any comments about that product???... i have never used one..
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RE: no2 question - 8/11/2006 7:08:37 PM
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flewbyu
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Thanks twist. I never heard of a "boost a pump" I will ask the shop boys about it if I go threw with the install. Also thats why I only wanted the 75 shot. I wanted the kick, but did not want to push the envelope to much. I still want my car to last a long time.(at least as long as I will be paying 4 it lol) Its only 6 months old or so. Drive normally when I want, drive like a beast when I want. Eitherway still be able to drive home afterwards and not ride on the back of a flatbed! lol
Thanks for the info and letter post!
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RE: no2 question - 8/11/2006 7:11:18 PM
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Thats fine and dandy...But you know. No matter what you do, eventually, you'll come home from the track on a trailer. Everyone does...It's just a matter of time. 
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RE: no2 question - 8/11/2006 7:13:16 PM
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flewbyu
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Ouchhh....
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RE: n20 question - 8/11/2006 11:18:51 PM
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I asked Doug from Bamachips if he had a tune for nitrous, he answered me and said no , He further said he would not write one to send via mail, he would only do one using a dyno. He did say if I backed the timing off 6 deg. with his 89 oct tune would probably work but he did not know about the fuel. This is why I'm going to have Brent do the install and the dyno tune. Taking these pre-caustions I should be safe. You can harm your car any many ways and I know this is one easy way if its not done properly, but I don't think it will hurt anything if done right, and not abused. I do want to thank everyone for all the info.
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RE: n20 question - 8/12/2006 12:31:59 AM
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flewbyu
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cfr865--- yeah, I feel the same way as you. I guess the only thing that I am rolling around with is do I want to do this now or do my header and gear work now. I picture both installs being done and I get a little butterfly feeling in my stomach. FYI- when I say do the spray I mean if I dont do it now and go for the other stuff I will still do it later. Which ever one is left will get done next. I try to picture what I will get the most use out of. I know with out a doubt the spray will cost more. If there are no problems then the bottle alone over time will had up. On a day to day I will get more use out of gears and headers because I use them every time I start my car. I know I am going on a bit but it helps to see these words on screen to help me deside. Well either way you will see a post that either says. LT header and 4.10s installed or Look who just got the spray...lol Dunno??? Thanks anyway.
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RE: n20 question - 8/12/2006 9:36:21 AM
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If you're going to spray it eventually, you might as well do the headers and gear first. With the stock exhaust, you're just going to blow harder through the same size straw. Know what I mean? Better exhaust means a better hit from the nitrous.
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RE: no2 question - 8/12/2006 10:12:57 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Twister086
i love how this thread went from a colder plug question to cheating...
but i want my opinion heard just like you guys..
remrats- ever driven a car with nitrous on it? it has been around way longer then honda tuners... and i love the bottle.
my old roommates 91 foxbody 1/8mile car ran a 300hp shot off the line on 10inch wide wrinklewall's. its nasty power and deadly consistent. with 2spd powerglide it runs 5.59 in the eigth. shuts down and rolls thru the 1/4 at 9.90 at 115.
id be fine spraying a 125hp shot to my stang when i race so i dont have to use 4mpg everytime i drive to the track because the supercharger or turbo i would use to get that 125hp out of doesnt turn off like my bottle does...
just to clarify, only a supercharger reduces mpg, due to parasitic loss from the belts. Turbos will usually increase mpg or at least leave it as is (although it sometimes can lower mpg, due to lead foot syndrome).
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RE: n20 question - 8/12/2006 1:35:54 PM
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Sidewayz6.0---I have Mac ab's. so far for exhaust. I see what you mean with the straw example, GOOD ONE! Hmmmmm, if I do 4:10s and the headers do you or anyone think I will get any hp gaine from that install? I know the gears will just help me get into the power band quicker or something but to be honest I still dont know how that works. I dont know if it means I have to shift faster than I would with stock or it means I can stay in a gear longer than I would with stock??
As for the headers I asked Brent from Brenspeed (well thats not true, it was Dave now that I think about it) Dave said they have not ran any specific test yet to see what the gain if any would be. They are schedule to take place soon. I guess before and after Dyno? So he could not answer me with fact statement on hp gain with the Lt's. Again, off topic from colder plugs but you guys have the answers right here so I dont want to waist a new post. Thanks
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RE: no2 question - 8/12/2006 4:04:11 PM
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Twister086
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yeah, i dont know anyone who would put a turbo on there car and not use it. anytime that boost guage goes past zero your getting less mpg's then a N/A setup. i cant drive a car with power like a hearse. if my car has boost im rolling into it. and that needle isnt gonna read vacuum unless im at a light or in a parking lot. because i like turbo spool. if a put a turbo on my s197. i would get 9mpg or less average.
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just to clarify, only a supercharger reduces mpg, due to parasitic loss from the belts. Turbos will usually increase mpg or at least leave it as is (although it sometimes can lower mpg, due to lead foot syndrome).
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RE: no2 question - 8/12/2006 10:46:15 PM
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jonnyjon84
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soooo, do you know anyone who would put N2O in their car, and not use it all the time? i'm sure you do, since N2O is way more expensive than having to fill up ur tank more often (well maybe not with these gas prices). if you don't want to burn more gas with a turbo, don't go into the upper band. simple. it's the same as not switchin on your N2O every chance you get. If you can't resist the temptation, then you're the one to blame, not the turbo.
And if you drive your car like you stole it all the time, you're gonna get really bad mpg regardless of whether or not you have a turbo.
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yeah, i dont know anyone who would put a turbo on there car and not use it. anytime that boost guage goes past zero your getting less mpg's then a N/A setup. i cant drive a car with power like a hearse. if my car has boost im rolling into it. and that needle isnt gonna read vacuum unless im at a light or in a parking lot. because i like turbo spool. if a put a turbo on my s197. i would get 9mpg or less average.
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ORIGINAL: jonnyjon84
just to clarify, only a supercharger reduces mpg, due to parasitic loss from the belts. Turbos will usually increase mpg or at least leave it as is (although it sometimes can lower mpg, due to lead foot syndrome).
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RE: no2 question - 8/12/2006 11:02:18 PM
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jonnyjon84--- I think it is much more fun to drive it like you stole it, I couldnt imagine putting around in a nice mustang.
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RE: n20 question - 8/12/2006 11:10:03 PM
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Sidewayz6.0---I have Mac ab's. so far for exhaust. I see what you mean with the straw example, GOOD ONE! Hmmmmm, if I do 4:10s and the headers do you or anyone think I will get any hp gaine from that install? I know the gears will just help me get into the power band quicker or something but to be honest I still dont know how that works. I dont know if it means I have to shift faster than I would with stock or it means I can stay in a gear longer than I would with stock??
As for the headers I asked Brent from Brenspeed (well thats not true, it was Dave now that I think about it) Dave said they have not ran any specific test yet to see what the gain if any would be. They are schedule to take place soon. I guess before and after Dyno? So he could not answer me with fact statement on hp gain with the Lt's. Again, off topic from colder plugs but you guys have the answers right here so I dont want to waist a new post. Thanks
You're going to see a gain with the Headers and Exhaust. How much? Hard to say. But you will see something. The gears will actually read a loss of HP on a dyno. That doesn't mean anything. It's just a different ratio, so it shows differently. You don't actually lose HP. As for how you'll have to shift, whats going to happen is say...Normally, when you're driving around town you're using mostly 2nd & 3rd gear right? Driving the same way, you'll be using 3rd & 4th more often now. It doesn't mean shifting more, it's just shifting between different gears. You will have to shift earlier from a stop because the redline will come up faster. But thats just because you're accelerating faster. Believe me, you're going to love a 4.10 gear. Don't let anyone talk you out of it. You'll be so disappointed with anything less. And to be honest, if you were never going to spray the car, I'd put a 4.30 in it. But stick with the 4.10 for a power adder.
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RE: n20 question - 8/12/2006 11:49:14 PM
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flewbyu
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Thanks for the detailed info. I never really understood what would happen when I changed gears. I do now. I understand that its hard to say how much gain (hp) with this setup. (gears LTs) Mind taken a guess? Would a 10 to 20 gain sound resonable? One other thing I PROMISE! I heard that the header work is a all day job, like 8 hours. True?
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RE: n20 question - 8/13/2006 12:20:23 AM
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gears won't help the hp . . .
LT's will give you up to 15 rwhp
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