I raced one the other day and I pulled pretty decently. All i have for mods is intake/tune, 4.10s and an axle back. We went twice and i pulled on him both times. once from like 60 and the other at 40. I was very surprised in the outcome considering they have 425 crank hp out of the box. He did have one more passenger then me that i could see and it was hot so he may have had the ac on but still he should have turned that off. What are those things running at the track? For $46k or w/e they go for that is not a car id be buying after that poor performance. Thats alot of money you could be putting into a GT.
bl1nk
08-08-2006, 06:27 PM
Not fast enough.
Black06GT40324
08-08-2006, 07:09 PM
ORIGINAL: bl1nkage
Not fast enough.
X2
mikefan20
08-08-2006, 08:45 PM
Theye are suposed to be running prety close 1/4 times as us stock, but I haven't seen that in the real world. Even if they came 600 rwhp out of the factory, I have to much self respect to ever be caught dead in that fart can riced up neon.
bl1nk
08-08-2006, 08:47 PM
ORIGINAL: mikefan20
Theye are suposed to be running prety close 1/4 times as us stock, but I haven't seen that in the real world. Even if they came 600 rwhp out of the factory, I have to much self respect to ever be caught dead in that fart can riced up neon.
Im thinking hes talking about the chargers/magnums... I believe the neons are SRT4's and I know they dont come with V8's
mikefan20
08-08-2006, 08:55 PM
HAHAHAHA, sory misread that, thought he was saying SRT4. I'm seriously druged up right now, just had my wisdom teeth pulled this morning.
ORIGINAL: bl1nkage
ORIGINAL: mikefan20
Theye are suposed to be running prety close 1/4 times as us stock, but I haven't seen that in the real world. Even if they came 600 rwhp out of the factory, I have to much self respect to ever be caught dead in that fart can riced up neon.
Im thinking hes talking about the chargers/magnums... I believe the neons are SRT4's and I know they dont come with V8's
But the SRT8's sre suposedly running better times. Don't think there are too many at the track though.
Norse1974
08-08-2006, 09:09 PM
I whooped up on one when I still had the paper tag!Check out the street/strip section for,,SRT8 Charger.We went from a dig & it was'nt pretty at all for HIM!I will say in the cars defense that it had a bad driver mod!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Rypper1
08-08-2006, 09:32 PM
The few that I have seen at the track were turning low to mid 14's.
2006RedGT
08-08-2006, 09:38 PM
The 425 horse ones were only turning 14's? Hell 6.0 powerstrokes with 450 Flywheel horsepower turns those numbers weighing 7500+pounds, lol
01RobGT
08-08-2006, 09:52 PM
hahaha well i just checked out the car and driver and they tested it out at 13.1 in stock trim. I guess if you want a boat with some power you buy one of these. I guess my next goal is to beat a new c6. I think i might need 75 shot of the funny stuff to do that tho.
PRGT
08-10-2006, 01:40 PM
My dad owns an SRT8 and they pull pretty hard on top end. I think that for the weight they have they are pretty quick. Our race will be as soon as the Borla catback and the CAI arrives to the SRT8. What do you guys think will be the results.
they are so damn heavy...but i have personally seen a stock chrysler 300 srt-8 run a 13.1 (don't remember the mph) at atco raceway. on that note the same guy ran mostly 13.4-5's that day. either way pretty impressive for a stock big family sedan....
doodad
08-10-2006, 03:14 PM
srt-4s are not runing like we do.. they are GENERALLY low 14s car.. some very good drivers seen high 13s.
srt-8s are hig 12s, low 13s sec. car.
good kill.
bikadur
08-10-2006, 03:58 PM
Not fast at all. I pulled one last night, at 120 i was about 1.5-2 lengths ahead. Mods in sig. I was in the Roush.
jaiasmit
08-10-2006, 04:07 PM
ORIGINAL: bl1nkage
Not fast enough.
LOL. That is exactly what I first thought when I read the title of the post.
Black06GT40324
08-10-2006, 04:24 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
srt-4s are not runing like we do.. they are GENERALLY low 14s car.. some very good drivers seen high 13s.
srt-8s are hig 12s, low 13s sec. car.
good kill.
I'm suprised you didn't call BS on this one. . .
a few bolton's on a GT and he walks an SRT8 from a ROLL . . .
i figured you would call BS all over this one . . . SRT8 should "MURDER" us
so a couple of boltons on a GT should still loose right???
ut oh, i opened it up again [:o] ;)
F00Mustang
08-10-2006, 04:55 PM
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
doodad
08-10-2006, 07:50 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
srt-4s are not runing like we do.. they are GENERALLY low 14s car.. some very good drivers seen high 13s.
srt-8s are hig 12s, low 13s sec. car.
good kill.
I'm suprised you didn't call BS on this one. . .
a few bolton's on a GT and he walks an SRT8 from a ROLL . . .
i figured you would call BS all over this one . . . SRT8 should "MURDER" us
so a couple of boltons on a GT should still loose right???
ut oh, i opened it up again [:o] ;)
anything can happen on the streets. l am not arguing with anyone.. l know how they are and how we are..
01RobGT
08-10-2006, 08:04 PM
ORIGINAL: PRGT
My dad owns an SRT8 and they pull pretty hard on top end. I think that for the weight they have they are pretty quick. Our race will be as soon as the Borla catback and the CAI arrives to the SRT8. What do you guys think will be the results.
You should beat him pretty badly with your mods. Idk what a cai and exhaust do for those but i bet its not enough.
PRGT
08-10-2006, 09:36 PM
Thank You ROBGT I will race him next week since by that time he will have installed the exhaust and CAI. I,ve read that an exhaust on that cars give them 15 to 20 RWHP and CAI like 5. But do you think that with the size on my rims I could easily take him.
mustangman02232
08-10-2006, 09:38 PM
ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.31 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
SRTs have a shorter geared tranny as well, as for times, high 12s, low 13s, either it was a 300C with only 345 HP or it was a baad driver
Black06GT40324
08-10-2006, 09:56 PM
ORIGINAL: mustangman02232
ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.31 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
SRTs have a shorter geared tranny as well, as for times, high 12s, low 13s, either it was a 300C with only 345 HP or it was a baad driver
um. . . all SRT8's are 425 hp . . . and no 300C with only 345 is gonna go high 12's or low 13's. . . it needs that extra 80 hp if it wants to see those times. . . :-)
um nevermind, i see what your saying now
01RobGT
08-10-2006, 09:57 PM
Im not sure how much 20 inch rims would slow you down. But looks like you have alll the basic bolt ons besides the drive shaft. So i mean Look at the mods i have and i raced a stock one and pulled decently on him. you have another 15 20 hp on me. Im sure 20 inch rims woudllnt slow you down to much.
smoke14me
08-10-2006, 10:41 PM
Well I am a dodge and ford man, well I am confused, whatever. The point is I know for a fact that a 300C SRT8 completly stock less than 500 miles on the odometer with nothing but drag radials can run in the 12s, to be exact It was a 12.98 Yes they are good cars out of the box, however dollar for dollar on mods the mustang wins every day. Daimlyer chrysler really screwed the pooch when they made the hemi's with speed Density and a nazi computer. You add an air intake and exhaust on a hemi and might get 15 rear wheel horsepower. You just cant get them to take to mods not even with a programmer. After that all the other mods including a cam along with ported heads and headers might net you 20 to 30 more RWHP. For a whoping 35 to 45 more RWHP so be glad that you are driving a mustang.
viking396
08-10-2006, 11:40 PM
ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
Your probably right. I knew it was higher than a manual GT's gear.I was going off of memory, and I have a very bad memory. But the rest is true, Ford did that to keep EPA listed fuel economy up. As for the GT500, drag radials and 4.10's, and I guarantee it's a 11 sec car. Look at the traps, all between 115 and 120, no matter which magazine is running it.
legendlime
08-11-2006, 02:01 AM
I had a 300C SRT-8 pass my stock auto GT convertible from 50mph, and I could only watch him walk away...
The Charger SRT-8s are a tick slower than a stock GT in the 1/4, but the SRT-8 300s have us by 1/2 second, acording to Car and Driver...
CB
Black06GT40324
08-11-2006, 10:37 AM
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
mustangman02232
08-11-2006, 11:35 PM
ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
ORIGINAL: viking396
ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
Your probably right. I knew it was higher than a manual GT's gear.I was going off of memory, and I have a very bad memory. But the rest is true, Ford did that to keep EPA listed fuel economy up. As for the GT500, drag radials and 4.10's, and I guarantee it's a 11 sec car. Look at the traps, all between 115 and 120, no matter which magazine is running it.
300C SRT-8 pass my stock auto GT convertible from 50mph, and I could only watch him walk away...
The Charger SRT-8s are a tick slower than a stock GT in the 1/4, but the SRT-8 300s have us by 1/2 second, acording to Car and Driver...
CB
GTs now all have 3.31s standard;)
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
s-197s run high 13s, SRT8 is high 12s to low 13s, drivers race for a mach maybe, but also srt8s are only autos, and if you cant drive an auto, you dont deserve a car
baha
08-12-2006, 06:26 AM
I was at the track the other day when a 300C did 15.2s in all three runs, got even beat by a Nissan Altima (both are bone stock), wonder how much faster the SRT8 will be? it was 95 and the humidity was like 100%...
KTownGT
08-12-2006, 06:27 PM
The SRT-8 Charger with 425 HP is neck and neck with a S197 with 300 HP?
How much do those chargers weigh...
doodad
08-12-2006, 07:22 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
Black06GT40324
08-12-2006, 07:54 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
you get in that car and just floor it, i will beat you in a civic
doodad
08-12-2006, 09:17 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
you get in that car and just floor it, i will beat you in a civic
wanna put some money on the line?
Black06GT40324
08-12-2006, 11:44 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
you get in that car and just floor it, i will beat you in a civic
wanna put some money on the line?
i was exaggerating my point, but i would beat you in a slower car. . . badly!!!
doodad
08-13-2006, 01:35 AM
l gotta say, you are underestimating those cars.. well anyway.. l love my stang no matter what!
cashman
08-13-2006, 03:42 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
l gotta say, you are underestimating those cars.. well anyway.. l love my stang no matter what!
You're underestimating how easy it is to break the tires loose, go take one for a test drive.
Black06GT40324
08-13-2006, 05:30 PM
X2, my point exactly
doodad
08-13-2006, 07:20 PM
l will tell you this guys.. has ANY OF YOU seen stock stang GT ran 12.8 ??? l have posted videos of stock chargers ram 12s but someone created some excuses adn l have posted here what other mustang owners think about stang GT vs. srt-8 here and someone still created some excuses.. and now l see, even if l beat some of you with srt8, l will probably get some excuses that you missed gear, or somethignelse.. dude, you wanna believ that your car is as fast as srt-8s but that doesnt mean you are.. when l got my formula first, l thought l was as fast as porches but once l got my ass kicked, l shut up and sit on my ass!
if you are stock, go and race with one of them and post video here, and l shut up respect you! if you cant do it, then lets both shup up and let's believe what we wanna believe.
mikefan20
08-13-2006, 07:44 PM
I think the point these guys are making is, just because a car has the potential to be faster, if it takes a really good driver to be able to drive it, and ours is relitively easy, allowing a ok driver to drive it, than the GT is more likely to win the race. (I went comma crazy there). If you put me in a 900HP car i would probably not be able to run as good of a time as I would in my 300HP car, cuz I don't know how to drive something with that much power. Granted the SRT-8 isn't 900HP, but if your average driver is just going to stomp on the gas in a race (and probably will), he will sit there and spin all the HP he has over you and watch your tailights get smaller.
doodad
08-13-2006, 07:50 PM
ORIGINAL: mikefan20
I think the point these guys are making is, just because a car has the potential to be faster, if it takes a really good driver to be able to drive it, and ours is relitively easy, allowing a ok driver to drive it, than the GT is more likely to win the race. (I went comma crazy there). If you put me in a 900HP car i would probably not be able to run as good of a time as I would in my 300HP car, cuz I don't know how to drive something with that much power. Granted the SRT-8 isn't 900HP, but if your average driver is just going to stomp on the gas in a race (and probably will), he will sit there and spin all the HP he has over you and watch your tailights get smaller.
well spin tires or not, l have seen them ran 12s BONE STOCK and posted 3 videos here.. but l have never seen any GT ran even very low 13s BONE STOCK. as l said.. this conversation will go forever unless someone race with one of them bone stock and post the video here.
Black06GT40324
08-13-2006, 07:51 PM
ORIGINAL: mikefan20
I think the point these guys are making is, just because a car has the potential to be faster, if it takes a really good driver to be able to drive it, and ours is relitively easy, allowing a ok driver to drive it, than the GT is more likely to win the race. (I went comma crazy there). If you put me in a 900HP car i would probably not be able to run as good of a time as I would in my 300HP car, cuz I don't know how to drive something with that much power. Granted the SRT-8 isn't 900HP, but if your average driver is just going to stomp on the gas in a race (and probably will), he will sit there and spin all the HP he has over you and watch your tailights get smaller.
some people just don't get it do they. . . (doodad)
doodad
08-13-2006, 08:49 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
some people just don't get it do they. . . (doodad)
whatever dude!!
mikefan20
08-13-2006, 09:21 PM
I think this thead can be put to rest. I would love to see some track video of the two racing though. 2 badass cars.
doodad
08-13-2006, 10:48 PM
l just found this link on the internet and see a 99 svt cobra vs srt-8 and cobra owner has some good mods which would kill new GT and people are still saying that he will lose or maybe drivers race..
also here is a race between srt-8 and 99 svt cobra. cobra is modified and srt-8 has intake and exhaust and still hangs with cobra even at high speeds, owns the cobra.
also here is a race between srt-8 and 99 svt cobra. cobra is modified and srt-8 has intake and exhaust and still hangs with cobra even at high speeds, owns the cobra.
on this link. . . look at the time in his sig. . . and he's not stock . . . you just proved my point with your crappy post. . .
the cobra owned him. . . and the only reason the SRT8 started catching him was when he went to 5th!!!!!
doodad
08-14-2006, 12:08 AM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
also here is a race between srt-8 and 99 svt cobra. cobra is modified and srt-8 has intake and exhaust and still hangs with cobra even at high speeds, owns the cobra.
on this link. . . look at the time in his sig. . . and he's not stock . . . you just proved my point with your crappy post. . .
the cobra owned him. . . and the only reason the SRT8 started catching him was when he went to 5th!!!!!
dude, l believe you need glasses to read my posts!! who the F*ck said that srt-8 was stock? read again! l said he got intake, and exhaust that is what they showed on the video.
also SMART guy, did you check that 1/4 mile of STONE STOCK sr-8 that ran 13.36?
about cobra, how well a new stang GT would hang with that cobra with just intake and exhaust? now you are prolly gonna tell me it would be drivers race!
also, did you read that mustang forums link that l gave? that MODDED 99 cobra owner was saying if he could get srt-8 and people were telling him drivers race or he would get killed..
now tell me, who doesnt get this ****? you or me? show me some FREAKING PROOFS like l have doing! dont talk crap, just show me some videos, posts..
also, as usual, l gave like 3 links and you just made a comment on O N E link, cuz you got nothing to say for other links!
drbobvs
08-14-2006, 12:10 AM
Good find though doodad!
Black06GT40324
08-14-2006, 12:16 AM
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
also here is a race between srt-8 and 99 svt cobra. cobra is modified and srt-8 has intake and exhaust and still hangs with cobra even at high speeds, owns the cobra.
on this link. . . look at the time in his sig. . . and he's not stock . . . you just proved my point with your crappy post. . .
the cobra owned him. . . and the only reason the SRT8 started catching him was when he went to 5th!!!!!
dude, l believe you need glasses to read my posts!! who the F*ck said that srt-8 was stock? read again! l said he got intake, and exhaust that is what they showed on the video.
also SMART guy, did you check that 1/4 mile of STONE STOCK sr-8 that ran 13.36?
about cobra, how well a new stang GT would hang with that cobra with just intake and exhaust? now you are prolly gonna tell me it would be drivers race!
I'm guessing you didn't even see WTF i was talking about . . .
in the guys signature where he posted the video. . . he put his 1/4 times. . . 13.4 AND HE IS NOT F*CKIN STOCK . . . are you just missing what im saying completely . . . THE SRT8 CHARGER THAT POSTED THAT VIDEO HAS HIS QUARTER MILE TIME LISTED IN HIS SIGNATURE AND IT SAYS 13.4, AND HE IS ALSO NOT STOCK SO HE WOULD RUN SLOWER THAN THAT STOCK . . .
the 99 cobra was about the same as us stock in the quarter because of the IRS(crappy takeoffs), he had exaust, intake, and a gear . . . he blew that 425hp POS outta the water every race . . .even from a roll, expected since he has some decent mods . . . not sure what that proves on your arguement whatsoever
and the 300C . . . **applause** . . . you found someone that could drive at the track . . . im proud of ya, even though you are missing the point once again . . .
KTownGT
08-14-2006, 12:22 AM
about 3 months ago I bet Black06GT could kill me if I have a srt8 charger.
doodad
08-14-2006, 12:34 AM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
I'm guessing you didn't even see WTF i was talking about . . .
in the guys signature where he posted the video. . . he put his 1/4 times. . . 13.4 AND HE IS NOT F*CKIN STOCK . . . are you just missing what im saying completely . . . THE SRT8 CHARGER THAT POSTED THAT VIDEO HAS HIS QUARTER MILE TIME LISTED IN HIS SIGNATURE AND IT SAYS 13.4, AND HE IS ALSO NOT STOCK SO HE WOULD RUN SLOWER THAN THAT STOCK . . .
the 99 cobra was about the same as us stock in the quarter because of the IRS(crappy takeoffs), he had exaust, intake, and a gear . . . he blew that 425hp POS outta the water every race . . .even from a roll, expected since he has some decent mods . . . not sure what that proves on your arguement whatsoever
and the 300C . . . **applause** . . . you found someone that could drive at the track . . . im proud of ya, even though you are missing the point once again . . .
he ran 13.4 at 1/4 mile and it all depends on weather and elevation! so can you please explain me the stiuations of low, mid 14 sec. new stangs or with intake, tune, exhaust stangs running high 13s??? they are supposed to be mid 13s cars. so why are they running mid 14s then? in case you cant answer this, let me tell you then, CRAPPY DRIVER, EVALOTION, WEATHER! same for srt-8s or any other cars.. but we all know that in reality, stangs are mid 13s cars. and in reality, srt-8s are low 13s or very high 12s cars! (WHICH MEANS THEY ARE FASTER)
yeah cobra beat him.. l know that.. but tell me what a new stang GT with intake and exhaust would run against that cobra?
also dude, l have been sening all those links here and l know you are reading them and watching them and you know those machines are faster than us and you just doesnt wanna accept the truth.. why?
by the way, as l said, that thing wasnt stock and got intake and exhaust.. dont give that crap like l said it was stock!
Black06GT40324
08-14-2006, 12:50 AM
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
I'm guessing you didn't even see WTF i was talking about . . .
in the guys signature where he posted the video. . . he put his 1/4 times. . . 13.4 AND HE IS NOT F*CKIN STOCK . . . are you just missing what im saying completely . . . THE SRT8 CHARGER THAT POSTED THAT VIDEO HAS HIS QUARTER MILE TIME LISTED IN HIS SIGNATURE AND IT SAYS 13.4, AND HE IS ALSO NOT STOCK SO HE WOULD RUN SLOWER THAN THAT STOCK . . .
the 99 cobra was about the same as us stock in the quarter because of the IRS(crappy takeoffs), he had exaust, intake, and a gear . . . he blew that 425hp POS outta the water every race . . .even from a roll, expected since he has some decent mods . . . not sure what that proves on your arguement whatsoever
and the 300C . . . **applause** . . . you found someone that could drive at the track . . . im proud of ya, even though you are missing the point once again . . .
he ran 13.4 at 1/4 mile and it all depends on weather and elevation! so can you please explain me the stiuations of low, mid 14 sec. new stangs or with intake, tune, exhaust stangs running high 13s??? they are supposed to be mid 13s cars. so why are they running mid 14s then? in case you cant answer this, let me tell you then, CRAPPY DRIVER, EVALOTION, WEATHER! same for srt-8s or any other cars.. but we all know that in reality, stangs are mid 13s cars. and in reality, srt-8s are low 13s or very high 12s cars! (WHICH MEANS THEY ARE FASTER)
yeah cobra beat him.. l know that.. but tell me what a new stang GT with intake and exhaust would run against that cobra?
also dude, l have been sening all those links here and l know you are reading them and watching them and you know those machines are faster than us and you just doesnt wanna accept the truth.. why?
by the way, as l said, that thing wasnt stock and got intake and exhaust.. dont give that crap like l said it was stock!
well, i never said you said it was stock. . . my point was that it ran 13.4 unstock, so it would be slower than that stock. . . i don't care if you said it was stock or not. . .
anyway. . . i went to the track bone stock and ran high 13's in hot weather having all of a month of driving it. . .mid 14's. . . please
let me drive a new stang stock now. . . i could prolly get a 13.5 and on a cold night might hit a 13.4 . . . yeah. . . im that freakin confident in these new stangs. . . i'll take your stang and run 13.5's . . .
and the 99 stang, i ran against a more heavily modded stang than that one at the track, 99 as well, and he was running same times. . . low 13's . . .
what's up with the elevation excuses. . .im not on see level, im running the times. . .
i don't see how you don't get my point . . . im saying that the SRT8 hardly ever run to its potential, that doesn't mean i think that our stangs are faster per say. . . im saying its easier to drive our stangs to their potential . . . you prolly still don't understand and will continue to post BS about me saying the SRT8 cannot run faster times than us. . . which is obvious they can, it just doesn't happen often
PRGT
08-14-2006, 12:59 AM
Heres one video of a 300 SRT8 vs a Cobra. Nice vid by the way.
http://www.831ccr.com/Videos/srt-8vsconvcobra.wmv
GhostPony
08-14-2006, 10:45 AM
They are giant and heavy cars. Not very fast in my opinion.
I have raced an SRT8 at the track. He was bone stock not even 1000 miles and I have it on video. He ran his car six times and his best time was a 14.08 with his 425 HP station wagon. This was on a hot day(99 degerees) but I don't expect the sedans to be too much faster due to their equivalent weight and gearing.
Black06GT40324
08-14-2006, 11:34 AM
ORIGINAL: GhostPony
They are giant and heavy cars. Not very fast in my opinion.
I have raced an SRT8 at the track. He was bone stock not even 1000 miles and I have it on video. He ran his car six times and his best time was a 14.08 with his 425 HP station wagon. This was on a hot day(99 degerees) but I don't expect the sedans to be too much faster due to their equivalent weight and gearing.
finally. . . someone with experience!!! Thank you for sharing that, it makes my argument a lot easier . . .
doodad
08-14-2006, 02:54 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: GhostPony
They are giant and heavy cars. Not very fast in my opinion.
I have raced an SRT8 at the track. He was bone stock not even 1000 miles and I have it on video. He ran his car six times and his best time was a 14.08 with his 425 HP station wagon. This was on a hot day(99 degerees) but I don't expect the sedans to be too much faster due to their equivalent weight and gearing.
finally. . . someone with experience!!! Thank you for sharing that, it makes my argument a lot easier . . .
who gives a damn if they ran 14.08 dude????? how about mid 14s stangs then? l just showed you a bone stock one yesterday 13.36!!! we are not talking about if they ran 14s-15s.. we are talking about what those car really are!!
dont give me somebodyelses Sh*t.. just go ahead, find me videos, that bone stock stang gt hangs out with stock srt-8 or beats..
somebody came over here and said they he saw they ran 14s and now you are saying someone with experience told the truths, like srt-8s are 14 sec. cars!! you know they are not 14 sec. cars!! and l have seen new stangs ran 14s too and l know they are not 14 sec. cars either..
dude, if u got some balls, l wanna end this thread by putting 100 bucks on this! l say srt-8s will beat new stangs and they are faster and you are saying it is drivers race!
as l said, stop giving me crap, show me some videos, threads!! like l have been doing!! you are just showing me a couple of dude's posts and l have showed you hundreds of dude's posts. but you still dont get it!!
AmericanMade
08-14-2006, 03:33 PM
SRT-4's for 2006 are only 230 (crank) stock and run in the mid 14's. You guys should be able to take them (stock for stock) with your A/C on but me, as a V6 would need some mods (preferably F/I) The best they can go is 355 to the crank with a stage 3 turbo and race gas. You can almost get that with good bolt-ons. And if anyone supercharges their GT it's game over.
AmericanMade
08-14-2006, 03:34 PM
SRT-8's are a different srory... sorry I didn't read the rest until after I made the other post lol
doodad
08-14-2006, 03:46 PM
ORIGINAL: AmericanMade
SRT-8's are a different srory... sorry I didn't read the rest until after I made the other post lol
you should definetely read this thread and see someone says that srt-8 and new stang GTs are D R I V E R S R A C E ! ! ! :D
Black06GT40324
08-14-2006, 04:05 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: AmericanMade
SRT-8's are a different srory... sorry I didn't read the rest until after I made the other post lol
you should definetely read this thread and see someone says that srt-8 and new stang GTs are D R I V E R S R A C E ! ! ! :D
like i said, you still don't get my point . . .
here, let me break it down to ya . . .
what times do you think a stock SRT8 with a normal Joe off the street will run at the track? ? ?
PRGT
08-14-2006, 04:11 PM
What about the cobra an SRT8 video? What cobra's run in the 1/4mile? The SRT8's are not easy cars to beat IMO. And I know because my dad owns one.
Black06GT40324
08-14-2006, 04:15 PM
ORIGINAL: PRGT
What about the cobra an SRT8 video? What cobra's run in the 1/4mile? The SRT8's are not easy cars to beat IMO. And I know because my dad owns one.
well, an inexperienced driver finds it hard to hit 12's in even a 03-04 cobra(i've seen this at the track), a friend of mine's best at the track(first time there) was a 13.3,
that IRS gives even experienced drivers fits i hear, im yet to see a bone stock one go 12's, but i have only seen a couple, i know the best for a stock one is 12.7, most good drivers hit 12.9's in them
doodad
08-14-2006, 06:11 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: AmericanMade
SRT-8's are a different srory... sorry I didn't read the rest until after I made the other post lol
you should definetely read this thread and see someone says that srt-8 and new stang GTs are D R I V E R S R A C E ! ! ! :D
like i said, you still don't get my point . . .
here, let me break it down to ya . . .
what times do you think a stock SRT8 with a normal Joe off the street will run at the track? ? ?
flat 13 or 13.1.- 13.2 - 13.3 (normal weather)
Black06GT40324
08-14-2006, 08:52 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
ORIGINAL: doodad
ORIGINAL: AmericanMade
SRT-8's are a different srory... sorry I didn't read the rest until after I made the other post lol
you should definetely read this thread and see someone says that srt-8 and new stang GTs are D R I V E R S R A C E ! ! ! :D
like i said, you still don't get my point . . .
here, let me break it down to ya . . .
what times do you think a stock SRT8 with a normal Joe off the street will run at the track? ? ?
flat 13 or 13.1.- 13.2 - 13.3 (normal weather)
low 13's eh? well hell, i think ol' Joe off the street can run
13.4(http://www.mustangforums.com/showProfile.asp?memid=44457) -fellow member here-
in a new stang. . . sounds like a drivers race to me
pleeezzz,
That is damn near best those cars can do and you think some normal Joe Bob is gonna run them times . . .
what are you smokin'? It would take a damn good driver, someone that knows about drag racing(few and far between) that could run them damn near their potential . . . automatic or not . . .
doodad
08-15-2006, 01:10 AM
a damn good driver with stang GT vs a regular driver with srt-8 = drivers race..
a damn good driver with mustang GT vs a damn good driver with srt-8 = srt- will definetely take stang GT.
when u said joe to me l understood a regular driver. ( l dont even know who joe is)
a damn good driver with srt-8 runs 12.8 best!
as a result:
-new stang GTs runs avarage hig - mid 13s
with a very very good driver low 13s
-srt-8 with a avarage driver, runs low 13s
with a damn good driver high 12s
= srt-8 is faster than new stang GT... period!
myredgt
08-15-2006, 01:39 AM
No one gives a **** anymore!!!!! Take it up with each other im pm! Damn.
doodad
08-15-2006, 01:57 AM
ORIGINAL: myredgt
No one gives a **** anymore!!!!! Take it up with each other im pm! Damn.
you just shut the hell up and dont read this thread then..
B
08-15-2006, 02:13 AM
haha... chill out
ok so
am i wrong to think that the cobra that went up agaisnt the srt-8
wasnt S/C?"?
i mean i didnt hear the whine?
whats a 99 not S/C produce at the wheelS?
cuz i kno a 03 non-S/C has like 320
i dunno about a 99
myredgt
08-15-2006, 02:18 AM
You're funny Doodad. First you beat a dead horse for multiple pages in more than one thread, then you threaten me over the internet. I like you. Once again I will say from personal experience, yes, the SRT8 is a very small tad faster than a new GT. Definitely not murder like you say.
Why don't you buy one, then go to their forum and stir up things with the GT vs SRT8 argument? Then instead of saying how many tenths of a second faster the SRT8 is, you could tell them how if you saved 20 grand, then sank it into your Mustang, you would rip three new assholes in any SRT8 for the same price.
I wish I was a mod. I would make the two final posts in an argument, the point and counter-point, the only ones people would see. No more multiple pages of GT, SRT8, me, you, 13.2, 13.4, faster, ME, I, blah, I need a wahmbulance, call 9-1-wah. Just some good ole fashioned beatings. There needs to be a special button a mod or admin could push to give out beatings. I would probably get several myself. Oh I could write a novel on the inner workings of a forum and the intellects, or lack there of, who reside within.
Regardless, Mr. Doodad, you have a pleasant evening. I'll do you one better actually. Since earlier in this thread, you dismissed my posts and told me how I didn't know what I was talking about and SRT8's don't have a badge on the trunk, in which my reply was a huge picture of one with a badge on its trunk, if and when I win the lottery, I will buy you 7, yes 7, SRT8 Chargers. A different color for every day of the week and I will have them custom made with NO SRT8 badge anywhere. I will also have a special device created where if any year or model Mustang GT got within 5 miles, it would automatically drop 150 horespower from the engine, meaning that your SRT8's would always "murder" the comptetion.
Now maybe we can act like more coherent mature adults and put the bickering aside. Yes, within 5 years I will have my beating button created, then we will see...
;)
- C
doodad
08-15-2006, 05:58 AM
ORIGINAL: myredgt
You're funny Doodad. First you beat a dead horse for multiple pages in more than one thread, then you threaten me over the internet. I like you. Once again I will say from personal experience, yes, the SRT8 is a very small tad faster than a new GT. Definitely not murder like you say.
Why don't you buy one, then go to their forum and stir up things with the GT vs SRT8 argument? Then instead of saying how many tenths of a second faster the SRT8 is, you could tell them how if you saved 20 grand, then sank it into your Mustang, you would rip three new assholes in any SRT8 for the same price.
I wish I was a mod. I would make the two final posts in an argument, the point and counter-point, the only ones people would see. No more multiple pages of GT, SRT8, me, you, 13.2, 13.4, faster, ME, I, blah, I need a wahmbulance, call 9-1-wah. Just some good ole fashioned beatings. There needs to be a special button a mod or admin could push to give out beatings. I would probably get several myself. Oh I could write a novel on the inner workings of a forum and the intellects, or lack there of, who reside within.
Regardless, Mr. Doodad, you have a pleasant evening. I'll do you one better actually. Since earlier in this thread, you dismissed my posts and told me how I didn't know what I was talking about and SRT8's don't have a badge on the trunk, in which my reply was a huge picture of one with a badge on its trunk, if and when I win the lottery, I will buy you 7, yes 7, SRT8 Chargers. A different color for every day of the week and I will have them custom made with NO SRT8 badge anywhere. I will also have a special device created where if any year or model Mustang GT got within 5 miles, it would automatically drop 150 horespower from the engine, meaning that your SRT8's would always "murder" the comptetion.
Now maybe we can act like more coherent mature adults and put the bickering aside. Yes, within 5 years I will have my beating button created, then we will see...
;)
- C
first: how can you say that l threaten you over the internet??? guys check my post out an show me how l threaten this guy
second: about srt-8 badge, l said what people said to me and l didnt say they definetely do not have.. and after your post l replied and said that l was wrong about it.. but looks like you didnt read that.. anyway.. the point is not they are 20 grand more or l can put that money on the stang and make monster.. the point is they are faster but on this thread it is drivers race.. and when rate the cars DRIVERS RACE that means those 2 cars are running the same or very close times.. with pro drivers, stang can run low 13s and srt-8 can run.
also what is this thing, << then why did you buy stang?? or go and buy srt-8, blah blah?? >> l own a new stang Gt and just cuz l own this thing should l say yeah we are faster than anything? THE TRUTH IS TRUTH. l dont care what car l have, if any one is faster than me and if someone says no they are not, l will not shut up.. even if srt-8s would be the same price as new stang GT l would still go with new stang cuz l love these cars.
l am saying again to people who says that srt-8 and new stang GT s are drivers race, show me the proof, convince me and l will respect you.. l am not like you.. l will accept the TURTH! but as l said, the truth is what l am saying.. they are not drivers race. ok they will not murder us but they will def. beat us!
doodad
08-15-2006, 05:59 AM
ORIGINAL: B
haha... chill out
ok so
am i wrong to think that the cobra that went up agaisnt the srt-8
wasnt S/C?"?
i mean i didnt hear the whine?
whats a 99 not S/C produce at the wheelS?
cuz i kno a 03 non-S/C has like 320
i dunno about a 99
if you are talking about 03 cobra, they were all supercharged and rated 390hp. there was no 03 cobra without S/C on my knowledge!
myredgt
08-15-2006, 11:55 AM
hehehe, I have recieved the reaction I wanted, you are in your own Doodadville. Thank you Doodad, and have a good day. :)
- C
lukoi66
08-15-2006, 12:18 PM
What this website could really use is an ignore/mute feature. Seriously, pompoous, knowitall, abrasive, point belaboring trolls are just best left under the rug to fester and die on their own. It's a website feature for forums that's long over due.
Nuff said.
dbvettez06
08-15-2006, 12:19 PM
ORIGINAL: 01RobGT
I raced one the other day and I pulled pretty decently. All i have for mods is intake/tune, 4.10s and an axle back. We went twice and i pulled on him both times. once from like 60 and the other at 40. I was very surprised in the outcome considering they have 425 crank hp out of the box. He did have one more passenger then me that i could see and it was hot so he may have had the ac on but still he should have turned that off. What are those things running at the track? For $46k or w/e they go for that is not a car id be buying after that poor performance. Thats alot of money you could be putting into a GT.
i SMELL BS..... I raced one in the 1/4 He ran 12.92 @ 106 as i recall........I did manage to get by him barely, 11.17@136.21 though;)
Black06GT40324
08-15-2006, 12:19 PM
ORIGINAL: doodad
a damn good driver with stang GT vs a regular driver with srt-8 = drivers race..
a damn good driver with mustang GT vs a damn good driver with srt-8 = srt- will definetely take stang GT.
when u said joe to me l understood a regular driver. ( l dont even know who joe is)
a damn good driver with srt-8 runs 12.8 best!
as a result:
-new stang GTs runs avarage hig - mid 13s
with a very very good driver low 13s
-srt-8 with a avarage driver, runs low 13s
with a damn good driver high 12s
= srt-8 is faster than new stang GT... period!
Here is what I am saying doodad . . . and you should not be able to argue with this since you do not have/driven an SRT8 . . . you ready? . . .
It is by far easier to drive a new stang to its potential than it is an SRT8 . . . that means that average Joe can get closer to the mid 13's that a stang can run than a low 13 that a SRT8 can run.
SRT8's are all auto's, yet some ppl manage to run 14 sec in them. . . you know why? . . . traction and takeoff
therefore making it a drivers race . . . (from a stop)
You cannot argue with that . . .
myredgt
08-15-2006, 12:58 PM
lukoi66
2nd Gear Member
Posts: 128
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: online What this website could really use is an ignore/mute feature. Seriously, pompoous, knowitall, abrasive, point belaboring trolls are just best left under the rug to fester and die on their own. It's a website feature for forums that's long over due.
Nuff said.
Yes, I agree. You have not been in this discussion and you come in to say how awesome you are and how others should be condemed. I obtained my original goal with my last couple of posts. What was that you ask? Well, I shall drop it down a notch and explain real fast.
This is in no way bad, read and it will be good for all. :) Doodad knows that SRT8's are a little faster, but he claimed they murdered Mustang GT's, the new ones anyways. Me and BlackGt had a different view. i explained my story of my personal driving experience against one at full throttle, in two threads actually. At the time Doodad said I was wrong and that SRT8's did not have a badge. I posted a picture which showed they do. that was taken care of. Him and Black GT continued their battle.
Everything being said and done, me, Doodad, and BlackGT were all trying to say the same thing, just not in the same words. Just go back and take a look in this thread, read it all. With mine and Doodads and even Black GT's last posts, we all seem to see eye to eye now. We all may not agree EXACTLY, but I think our understanding is mutual.
As far as trolls, like I said, I was in the middle of the fire, and my posts got us to kind of see things together. I have no bad feelings at all against Doodad, I actually like the fact he will speak his mind no matter whether he is right or wrong, then we can disuss. Isn't that the point of a froum anyways?
A troll however, is someone that just appears out of nowhere and posts:
lukoi66
2nd Gear Member
Posts: 128
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: online What this website could really use is an ignore/mute feature. Seriously, pompoous, knowitall, abrasive, point belaboring trolls are just best left under the rug to fester and die on their own. It's a website feature for forums that's long over due.
Nuff said.
For you have not been in the discussion and have no reason to bash anyone.
I am happy to have talked to Doodad and BlackGT and wish to do so more often as I am new to my Mustang as I bought it at the beginning of June brand new. I have alot to learn and I'm sure they can help me. I just refuse to get help from self righteous, holier than thou, I'm better than you biggots as yourslef lukoi66.
Now I do hope that you jumped the gun and now with reading this thread realise who is the real troll. With all that being said, I hope we can get along and not have any problems likoi66, yes? ;)
Thank you all and have a good day. I am going to work now, goodbye.
- C
lukoi66
08-15-2006, 01:13 PM
actually Red, I did read all of it. Check your PM's for further explaination bc I'm thinking you missed the point of my post and more importantly who it refers to.
there's a way to express an opinion during an argument and a way not to. Yes people can choose to ignore a thread in order to avoid someone, per Doodad's advice but this is a community site where people shouldn't be bullied out by constant grandstanding and argumentative behavior. So, sorry if you feel I was trollish. I don't think it was nearly so trollish a comment as some on this thread and it's a valid point. An ignore feature is a great feature to have on a forum site :)
As for having a reason to bash someone....the above while harsh wasn't a bash. It was a simple statement of opinion.
myredgt
08-15-2006, 01:19 PM
Sorry, I guess I misunderstood. [&:]
I think we are all on the same page now though.
Let the discussion continue! [8D]
- C
Black06GT40324
08-15-2006, 01:50 PM
i know me and doodad are thoroughly enjoying ourselves . . . he will see my point eventually, it just may take a couple hundred more posts of me saying the same thing in a different way . . . ha ha ;)
doodad
08-15-2006, 11:04 PM
ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
i know me and doodad are thoroughly enjoying ourselves . . . he will see my point eventually, it just may take a couple hundred more posts of me saying the same thing in a different way . . . ha ha ;)
:D:D:D
even if those cars would run 11s, l would still get the new GT. l love this ride and l dont care who is faster or slower.. l am out of this thread.. respect ya'll..
;)
Black GT
08-16-2006, 12:50 AM
ORIGINAL: myredgt
lukoi66
2nd Gear Member
Posts: 128
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: online What this website could really use is an ignore/mute feature. Seriously, pompoous, knowitall, abrasive, point belaboring trolls are just best left under the rug to fester and die on their own. It's a website feature for forums that's long over due.
Nuff said.
Yes, I agree. You have not been in this discussion and you come in to say how awesome you are and how others should be condemed. I obtained my original goal with my last couple of posts. What was that you ask? Well, I shall drop it down a notch and explain real fast.
This is in no way bad, read and it will be good for all. :) Doodad knows that SRT8's are a little faster, but he claimed they murdered Mustang GT's, the new ones anyways. Me and BlackGt had a different view. i explained my story of my personal driving experience against one at full throttle, in two threads actually. At the time Doodad said I was wrong and that SRT8's did not have a badge. I posted a picture which showed they do. that was taken care of. Him and Black GT continued their battle.
Everything being said and done, me, Doodad, and BlackGT were all trying to say the same thing, just not in the same words. Just go back and take a look in this thread, read it all. With mine and Doodads and even Black GT's last posts, we all seem to see eye to eye now. We all may not agree EXACTLY, but I think our understanding is mutual.
As far as trolls, like I said, I was in the middle of the fire, and my posts got us to kind of see things together. I have no bad feelings at all against Doodad, I actually like the fact he will speak his mind no matter whether he is right or wrong, then we can disuss. Isn't that the point of a froum anyways?
A troll however, is someone that just appears out of nowhere and posts:
lukoi66
2nd Gear Member
Posts: 128
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: online What this website could really use is an ignore/mute feature. Seriously, pompoous, knowitall, abrasive, point belaboring trolls are just best left under the rug to fester and die on their own. It's a website feature for forums that's long over due.
Nuff said.
For you have not been in the discussion and have no reason to bash anyone.
I am happy to have talked to Doodad and BlackGT and wish to do so more often as I am new to my Mustang as I bought it at the beginning of June brand new. I have alot to learn and I'm sure they can help me. I just refuse to get help from self righteous, holier than thou, I'm better than you biggots as yourslef lukoi66.
Now I do hope that you jumped the gun and now with reading this thread realise who is the real troll. With all that being said, I hope we can get along and not have any problems likoi66, yes? ;)
Thank you all and have a good day. I am going to work now, goodbye.
- C
I didn't catch the start of this thread, so I went back to see what it was I was arguing about here, since I didn't recall taking part in this discussion.
Then whe readingthrough the thread I realized you meant Black06GT40324.
Ok then, carry on [sm=bicker.gif]
Black06GT40324
08-16-2006, 12:56 AM
yep, i guess they didn't feel like typing all that out . . .
[sm=itsok.gif]
myredgt
08-16-2006, 11:09 AM
Yeah, sorry about that Black GT. I was at work and typing like a madman. It's all good though. :)
- C
josh06
02-24-2007, 08:18 PM
raced a srt8 this morning pulled 2 car lengths on them out of the hole,intill 60 then i slowed down.Was impressed with how fast this jeep was but whats the point in something so heavy.
07GTEddy
09-09-2007, 11:54 AM
Had a run against an 300C SRT8 last night on the freeway. From about 40He slowly walked on me but that was it. I was expexting him to just run but, was not impressed at all for the power its got. But, he still got me:(
I need to change to 4.10's...........:D
craezjo
09-09-2007, 12:05 PM
mustang gt stock 1/4 mile13.5
charger srt8 stock is 13.6
300c srt8 stock is 13.4
not sure bout the magnum and this is all from motortrend
Pwny
09-09-2007, 02:32 PM
The Dodges have plenty of power... as well as weight...