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The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.31 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
SRTs have a shorter geared tranny as well, as for times, high 12s, low 13s, either it was a 300C with only 345 HP or it was a baad driver
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.31 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
SRTs have a shorter geared tranny as well, as for times, high 12s, low 13s, either it was a 300C with only 345 HP or it was a baad driver
um. . . all SRT8's are 425 hp . . . and no 300C with only 345 is gonna go high 12's or low 13's. . . it needs that extra 80 hp if it wants to see those times. . . :-)
um nevermind, i see what your saying now
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Im not sure how much 20 inch rims would slow you down. But looks like you have alll the basic bolt ons besides the drive shaft. So i mean Look at the mods i have and i raced a stock one and pulled decently on him. you have another 15 20 hp on me. Im sure 20 inch rims woudllnt slow you down to much.
Well I am a dodge and ford man, well I am confused, whatever. The point is I know for a fact that a 300C SRT8 completly stock less than 500 miles on the odometer with nothing but drag radials can run in the 12s, to be exact It was a 12.98 Yes they are good cars out of the box, however dollar for dollar on mods the mustang wins every day. Daimlyer chrysler really screwed the pooch when they made the hemi's with speed Density and a nazi computer. You add an air intake and exhaust on a hemi and might get 15 rear wheel horsepower. You just cant get them to take to mods not even with a programmer. After that all the other mods including a cam along with ported heads and headers might net you 20 to 30 more RWHP. For a whoping 35 to 45 more RWHP so be glad that you are driving a mustang.
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The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
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ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
Your probably right. I knew it was higher than a manual GT's gear.I was going off of memory, and I have a very bad memory. But the rest is true, Ford did that to keep EPA listed fuel economy up. As for the GT500, drag radials and 4.10's, and I guarantee it's a 11 sec car. Look at the traps, all between 115 and 120, no matter which magazine is running it.
I had a 300C SRT-8 pass my stock auto GT convertible from 50mph, and I could only watch him walk away... The Charger SRT-8s are a tick slower than a stock GT in the 1/4, but the SRT-8 300s have us by 1/2 second, acording to Car and Driver... CB
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ORIGINAL: F00Mustang
The problem isn't the power, it's the gearing. The SRT8's have taller (read lower number) gears than our cars have stock. With the extra weight these have over us, they need more mechanical advantage to the that barge moving. Lower gears means greater mechanical advantage, which is why so many of us have switched to 3.73 or 4.10 gears in our cars. I have no doubt that with lower gears and probably a torque converter, they could be high to mid 12sec cars right out of the box. The fact is that even with DOD, chrysler needed to put the taller gear in to avoid higher penalties for gas milage.
Ford went through the same thing with the GT500, that's why they come with a 3.23 gear - for gas milage listings to the government.
Your probably right. I knew it was higher than a manual GT's gear.I was going off of memory, and I have a very bad memory. But the rest is true, Ford did that to keep EPA listed fuel economy up. As for the GT500, drag radials and 4.10's, and I guarantee it's a 11 sec car. Look at the traps, all between 115 and 120, no matter which magazine is running it.
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300C SRT-8 pass my stock auto GT convertible from 50mph, and I could only watch him walk away... The Charger SRT-8s are a tick slower than a stock GT in the 1/4, but the SRT-8 300s have us by 1/2 second, acording to Car and Driver... CB
GTs now all have 3.31s standard
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Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
s-197s run high 13s, SRT8 is high 12s to low 13s, drivers race for a mach maybe, but also srt8s are only autos, and if you cant drive an auto, you dont deserve a car
I was at the track the other day when a 300C did 15.2s in all three runs, got even beat by a Nissan Altima (both are bone stock), wonder how much faster the SRT8 will be? it was 95 and the humidity was like 100%...
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Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
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Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
you get in that car and just floor it, i will beat you in a civic
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ORIGINAL: Black06GT40324
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
you get in that car and just floor it, i will beat you in a civic
wanna put some money on the line?
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Slow Zincyellow 2003 Cobra "SOLD" upper only - 455rwhp -478rwtq
Stock Stang and Stock SRT8's are driver's race . . .
equal drivers, SRT8 faster than Stock Stang GT
your post does not even make sense..
if the driver sucks, then 03/04 COBRA & 05+ stang GT is drivers race... vette & 05+ stang GT drivers race, but if the drivers are equal, they will smoke the GT. talk about general man..
srt-8s are all auto l believe so driver dont need to know how to drive.. just floor it and thats it.
you get in that car and just floor it, i will beat you in a civic
wanna put some money on the line?
i was exaggerating my point, but i would beat you in a slower car. . . badly!!!
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l will tell you this guys.. has ANY OF YOU seen stock stang GT ran 12.8 ??? l have posted videos of stock chargers ram 12s but someone created some excuses adn l have posted here what other mustang owners think about stang GT vs. srt-8 here and someone still created some excuses.. and now l see, even if l beat some of you with srt8, l will probably get some excuses that you missed gear, or somethignelse.. dude, you wanna believ that your car is as fast as srt-8s but that doesnt mean you are.. when l got my formula first, l thought l was as fast as porches but once l got my ass kicked, l shut up and sit on my ass!
if you are stock, go and race with one of them and post video here, and l shut up respect you! if you cant do it, then lets both shup up and let's believe what we wanna believe.
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I think the point these guys are making is, just because a car has the potential to be faster, if it takes a really good driver to be able to drive it, and ours is relitively easy, allowing a ok driver to drive it, than the GT is more likely to win the race. (I went comma crazy there). If you put me in a 900HP car i would probably not be able to run as good of a time as I would in my 300HP car, cuz I don't know how to drive something with that much power. Granted the SRT-8 isn't 900HP, but if your average driver is just going to stomp on the gas in a race (and probably will), he will sit there and spin all the HP he has over you and watch your tailights get smaller.
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