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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 1:34:15 AM   
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honestly, i was gonna say the Skyline, cuz i love 'em, but, i didnt wanna get jumped by everybody.......but, i agree w/ D.......again. imports/ricers(honda, acura, neons, etc) will always be remember as economy cars. full street cars anyway, unless its a Mitsu GSX/3000GT VR-4 thats pushing over 800hp or something....but, V8's "own" the American Heritage of speed/hp/torque, etc, etc

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 9:53:36 AM   
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Ok, wasnt the vette made in like 54 or something?
So wouldnt that make it OLDER than the skyline?


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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 12:07:04 PM   
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well I have to admit...american cars will always reign in the 1/4....but what about rally or course driving....a skyline will OWN any american car in a course.......and no american muscle will touch an evo/sti in a rally....so to each their own....

I personally love all kinds of racing....I want a car that I can drag with but also take off road if I want and do street courses....which is why I like the AWD evo....champion rally car but still fast enough to compete with alot of cars in a 1/4 and handles good enough to take any course you throw at it.....maybe thats just my opinion

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 12:11:41 PM   
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Not true about the course racing thing.
Can't remember who exactly posted it, but it was in the Off Topic section of this V6 stang beating on ferrari's and crap.
I think it was a Kenny Brown car or something like that.

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 12:18:27 PM   
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well...there are exceptions to all rules.....a yugo could be the fastest car in the world if you put time money and effort into it

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 2:24:04 PM   
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tru dat

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 5:15:52 PM   
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well I have to admit...american cars will always reign in the 1/4....but what about rally or course driving....a skyline will OWN any american car in a course........and no american muscle will touch an evo/sti in a rally....so to each their own....


Silly I tell you. Ever heard of a Ford GT? ZO6 Corvette? Hell, 3rd gen Camaros?

There's plenty of 4WD trucks with turbo's that'll run the **** outta those cars in the dirt....

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 5:27:18 PM   
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well I have to admit...american cars will always reign in the 1/4....but what about rally or course driving....a skyline will OWN any american car in a course........and no american muscle will touch an evo/sti in a rally....so to each their own....


Silly I tell you. Ever heard of a Ford GT? ZO6 Corvette? Hell, 3rd gen Camaros?

There's plenty of 4WD trucks with turbo's that'll run the **** outta those cars in the dirt....


heheheehehehehehheheheheheheheheheheheehheheheeh FORD GT owns all :D

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 10:00:18 PM   
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alright let me jump in here with my first post I hate friggin imports!!! I do like the fact that Dodge made a import killer at a good price. I however would never own a car like that. Sorry but i want something that everyone is forgetting about TORQUE!!!!!!! Your SRT4 might be fast as hell when you tach it up and run the snot out of it but what is it like around town to drive. Just cruising at low speeds can you give it like 1/8 throttle and feel that twinge in your back from the torque pushing you back....i doubt it. I currently am looking for a stang to play with.....I have a 66 corvette and an 87 Turbo T. The turbo T is faster it will turn mid 12's to the Vette's who knows....mid 13's i'm guessing(never had the heart to beat on her for that long a distance lol) Point is though the Vette is so much more fun to drive. The power is right there all the time!!! Step on it a little bit and your gone....Buick you have to wait for the boost then it moves...plus if its a hot and humid day forget it the Vette will take it then.....In summary the little Neon is a cool car but the old statement i think still rings true....."There is no replacement fo displacement"

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 10:36:59 PM   
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alright let me jump in here with my first post I hate friggin imports!!! I do like the fact that Dodge made a import killer at a good price. I however would never own a car like that. Sorry but i want something that everyone is forgetting about TORQUE!!!!!!! Your SRT4 might be fast as hell when you tach it up and run the snot out of it but what is it like around town to drive. Just cruising at low speeds can you give it like 1/8 throttle and feel that twinge in your back from the torque pushing you back....i doubt it. I currently am looking for a stang to play with.....I have a 66 corvette and an 87 Turbo T. The turbo T is faster it will turn mid 12's to the Vette's who knows....mid 13's i'm guessing(never had the heart to beat on her for that long a distance lol) Point is though the Vette is so much more fun to drive. The power is right there all the time!!! Step on it a little bit and your gone....Buick you have to wait for the boost then it moves...plus if its a hot and humid day forget it the Vette will take it then.....In summary the little Neon is a cool car but the old statement i think still rings true....."There is no replacement fo displacement"


You made an excellent point about the torque. I forgot to mention that in my earlier posts. With any potent V8, you can cruise right up fairly steep hills in 5th gear while doing 45-50 mph with a stock rear end like 3.27's or 3.08's. Cruising around town, you just make it so that the gas pedal is ever so slightly pressed to hold speed, and when someone in front turns off, you don't even need to shift lower than 4th or 3rd at most. I love torque. HP is really just a statistical number that's calculated. Torque is what makes you go, most people forget. Torque is far more important than HP.

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 10:39:45 PM   
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Oh also, I just came home from running a quick errand, and on the other side of the road was a '67 or '68 GT 500, not sure if it was authentic or a clone, but it was definately restored and packin' a big block cobra jet with nasty cams and had a sound to melt for. I bet he hates imports too :)

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/16/2004 11:19:01 PM   
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about the ford gt and the z06, they both have alot more hp and torque than a skyline. give the skyline the same torque and hp and bye bye domestics. have you ever driven a skyline

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/17/2004 2:04:31 AM   
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i love the ford gt's....B-E-A-U-TIFUL cars !!!(imo). and yeah, torque is what gets you there. hp just keeps you there. but why is it, most of the time(say with a 5.0), factory: 225hp/300 lbs/ft, that when you do mods, the hp usually goes up more than the torque. just the way parts are made and designed, or, how does that work ?? i wish i could drive a skyline. itd be wierd tho !! right hand drive. that take some gettin used to racing. i mean, yeah, ive shifted w/ my left hand for mom n dad when i was younger and they were doing something, but, racing w/ my left hand.........idk about that. id probably f**k up A LOT !!!!! oh well. its a skyline. if i lose, i still look better than most of the cars on the road. well, maybe not most, but a A LOT of them

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/17/2004 2:29:49 PM   
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i'm suprised no one started some sh*t about me asking if anyone has driven a Skyline.i have not driven a JDM skyline. however, there is a guy named Cameron Amherst who used to live in georgia who built a G35 coupe into an R35. i drove that. it had the attessa and super hicas systems and about 350 whp. that thing was fast. i'm talking mid 12s. and he built it to spec on the model coming in 06.

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/18/2004 8:32:19 PM   
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why u surprised about that ?? people should know not to f**k with a skyline. therye bad-ass. so what if its Japanese. BIG WHOOP. AWD, inline 6, 6-spd, @ 280hp from factory. sheeit. theyre fast from factory. the awd helps out a LOT. now, non-gt-r's, they have traction problems, but, gt-r's, out the hole, you can kiss your ass goodbye unless you jump, or they cant drive and dont kno how to launch an awd car.......built on the model of what ?? the Skyline ?? i thought it was supposed to be '07 ?? thats what i read in one of my import mags.....think it was Super Street. oh well. either way, were supposed to be gettin them when they come out. but, theyll probably deny us that too....deny us everything else good. THE BASTARDS !!

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/18/2004 8:50:27 PM   
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about the ford gt and the z06, they both have alot more hp and torque than a skyline. give the skyline the same torque and hp and bye bye domestics. have you ever driven a skyline


if my sister had a dick she'd be my brother. shut up with your stupid hypothetical **** bench racing.

and just a fyi, all wheel drive can slob on my knob. it's just for people who can't launch. they waste way too much power.

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/18/2004 8:56:40 PM   
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YEAH!
AWD SUCKS!
It slobs on Jugs NoB!

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/18/2004 9:36:47 PM   
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about the ford gt and the z06, they both have alot more hp and torque than a skyline. give the skyline the same torque and hp and bye bye domestics. have you ever driven a skyline


if my sister had a dick she'd be my brother. shut up with your stupid hypothetical **** bench racing.

and just a fyi, all wheel drive can slob on my knob. it's just for people who can't launch. they waste way too much power.

your one angry ****er dude

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/18/2004 9:40:43 PM   
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no, you just assumed that what i said was in anger

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RE: Them damn Turbos! - 7/18/2004 9:42:08 PM   
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no, you just assumed that what i said was in anger

it didnt seem like you said it in a cheerfull mood.

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