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Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 7/28/2006 12:30:21 PM

Professor Wizard

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I thought I would start a dedicated thread to CAI's since so many of us are installing them...

Here is my experience:
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1637773/tm.htm

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 7/28/2006 11:51:27 PM

06triplevalve

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Just joined, and started looking, and boy am I impressed. Thank you for your excellently detailed report on the CAI! That is my next step (I think) and I was dying to see some sort of walk-through from someone, yours was excellent. I have 3000 miles so far, and I am trying as hard as possible to wait until 5000 miles (self impossed) to purchase and install a supercharger and CAI. I have been wondering what shoukld come first, which will work well together, how I should think about purchasing a tuner and how I would try to use the tuner to work both items. In my little pea-brain it all seems so overwhelming (yes, I'm one of those carburetor guys). Your walk-through certainly helped. Thanks. Roy Ludt AKA 06triplevalve

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 8/19/2006 8:27:38 PM

Quick S

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Granatelli CAI on an '06 stang GT

For me, the Granatelli CAI kit was perfect for my goals with the car. With this kit you don't need an expensive tuner ( usually required ) to get HP gains out of a CAI. Taking off the stock air box is a breeze, about 5 Min. Now some of the dislikes with Granatelli CAI kit, is there insrtuctions that are sent with the kit are not the greatest. There is NO mention of the new intake hose line that you must replace ( which comes with the kit ) and the new wiring harness that must be pluged into the new MAF senser and the cars wiring harness ( new wiring harness comes with kit ). The filter does hit the brake lines but with some easy munipulation of the lines and the tube, the filter then sits fine inside the Air box without completely rubbing or hitting the brake lines. But all and all, the kit works like it promises and you can feel the difference in the car.

New Granatelli MAF "Slot in" senser and wiring harness

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Pics after Install

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 8/31/2006 1:16:04 PM

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I just installed a Bama tune [X Calibrater 2] and a JLT CAI......The CAI was very simple, took maybe 20 minutes....Remove nut holding down stock air box, take 2 screws out slide out MAF, remove intake from throttle body, and reinstall.....Pretty well impossible to screw up...Then, plugged in X Calibrater, followed instructions, and that was it....I really took my time and all was done in less than a hour...The improvement [especially in the auto] is well worth the $$ spent...There are nicer looking CAI than the JLT, but it works great...I will dyno this fall, but i believe i experienced an honest 25-30+ hp gain, and also, and more important, a gain in torque...And a great improvement in the firmness of the auto shifts....

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 9/5/2006 10:44:07 PM

Chef

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THanks for the posts. Pictures really helpful. Think i messed posting this elsewhere but any thought s are helpful . . .Hey guys thanks for the feedback on the CAI question. Called Evoperform to order the SCT XCalibrator 2 with C&L MAF Trueflow cold air intake combo. They suggested the plastic one instead. I like the price of plastic $525 vs $625. They said lightweight too. What are the pros and cons here? Don't want to regret my first customization.

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ProfessoWizard, nice wheels - 9/5/2006 11:22:43 PM

Chef

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what kind are those?

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RE: ProfessoWizard, nice wheels - 9/7/2006 10:45:54 PM

Chef

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ProfessoWizard, what tools do i need for C&L CAI?

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RE: ProfessoWizard, nice wheels - 9/15/2006 5:53:08 PM

virtual_verve11

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is there any reason why some one would purchase the ford racing intake and tuner over other brands? are there any benifits? do some tuners produce more power then others? or is there a max power number that an intake could make? just wondering for I am thinking of buying a cold air kit I have not decided on one though.

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 9/29/2006 2:35:40 AM

papa t

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chef

THanks for the posts. Pictures really helpful. Think i messed posting this elsewhere but any thought s are helpful . . .Hey guys thanks for the feedback on the CAI question. Called Evoperform to order the SCT XCalibrator 2 with C&L MAF Trueflow cold air intake combo. They suggested the plastic one instead. I like the price of plastic $525 vs $625. They said lightweight too. What are the pros and cons here? Don't want to regret my first customization.

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I just installed the plastic C&L TrueFlow Racer CAI. I chose that one because of the 95 mm MAF housing (i figured bigger was better) and the plastic intake. I live in AZ and I figured the plastic would retain less heat than the metal. I just got finished installing it so it hasn't seen much heat yet. Time will tell...

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 9/29/2006 12:37:15 PM

red_fire_GT

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My first mod was the BBK CAI and I am very impressed with it. It installed in about 20 minutes and looks great. I didn't have a tune at the time but received no errors so no CEL. Works perfectly with my ram air hood.

Best mod so far is the 4:10's and dyno tune.

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 9/29/2006 3:55:52 PM

06hoss

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Hi guys, I have the C&L street cold air intake kit with a Predator high octane tune and I LOVE it! I bought this brand of cold air intake since 5.0 magazine ran a comparison test on 11 different kits in the 1/06 edition and the C&L won. You may see ads that say the JLT made the most horsepower in this test (so they claim they won), but it was only by about 2 HP, but 5.0 also took into account the quality of the unit. I have read plenty of posts on forum where JLT guys are complaining that theirs fell apart or rubs the ABS line. I also heard that this was a production problem that JLT had fixed. Anyway, the C&L street intake is rock solid and was extremely easy to install. Like the professor said about his kit, the first thing you notice is the sound...louder and you can hear the exhaust pulsations better when you get on it. Also, it definitely has more power. It sounds so good that I can't help but get in the throttle more than necessary. I think that the additional horse power rating is 26HP (flywheel). I ran it with the low octane tune for awhile (which I think adds about 20HP) and then switched to the high octane tune...throttle response improved a bit and the power just keeps coming all the way up the tach. A cold air intake kit should without a doubt be your first mod. It is super easy and don't fear the tuner...it's real easy too. The tuner will make sure you don't run your air fuel ratio too lean and when you switch to the high octane tune, it advances the timing a little for more power (and the kits without tuners can't do this). I also used the tuner to remove the speed limiter and when I get around to changing the rear end gear, the tuner will let me make the change in the computer so the speedo will be correct.

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MD Dyno Tune
American Racing Headers w/cats
Hurst Equipped/MAC Axle Backs
Stange Dev. Front & Rear Shock Tower Braces
CHE Adj. LCAs/K member/Torque Limiters/Steeda UDPs
DSS 3.5" Dia. Driveshaft/FRPP 4.10s

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/1/2006 12:05:49 AM

derambe

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I'm looking for a CAI, looking for best price and hp. Anyone?

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/12/2006 2:59:01 PM

bluene05GT

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Does anyone have a stock CAI for sale. If you've done a CAI mod you probably have one laying around.
I"m having trouble with a C&L intake system that was installed on my car before I bought it and i need to take it back to stock to troubleshoot the chip programming.

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/12/2006 6:44:20 PM

06hoss

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Sorry bro, I still have my stock one laying around, but I'm keeping it until my warranty runs out just in case I need warranty work on the engine. My local Ford dealership is a little pissy about mods so it's just cheap insurance. I'm sure somebody will cough one up though.

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C&L Street CAI
MD Dyno Tune
American Racing Headers w/cats
Hurst Equipped/MAC Axle Backs
Stange Dev. Front & Rear Shock Tower Braces
CHE Adj. LCAs/K member/Torque Limiters/Steeda UDPs
DSS 3.5" Dia. Driveshaft/FRPP 4.10s

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/16/2006 9:28:22 AM

markrey1

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has anyone used SandB filters CAI kits

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/16/2006 1:16:49 PM

Rupp

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Any of you guys chrome the V6 C&L?

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/21/2006 10:39:49 PM

Silver06GT

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Thanks for the information and sorry for the rookie questions: but if I add a CAI to my car do I have to flash the chip? Without a flash will I get the full benefits of the CAI? Finally, what about warranty repairs? When I bought my car I asked the dealer to install the short throw shifter listed in the Ford Racing catelog and they told me it would void my warranty! I know every dealer is different, but has anyone had run into trouble with an aftermarket intake system with respect to warranty repairs?

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/22/2006 12:45:49 PM

06hoss

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It depends on the CAI that you buy. For instance the K&N kit and the Granitelli kit don't require flashing your computer, but a lot of CAI kits do. I would recommend buying one with a flash tuner since you are leaving horsepower on the table when you don't get a tuner. I have the Diablo Predator tuner while a lot of guys have the SCT tuner. Which one you end up with now really depends on the parts they are packaged with...mine was packaged with the C&L CAI I bought...both tuners are very good. With a tuner you can flash the computer for a high octane tune for more horsepower. It advances the timing and enriches the air/fuel ratio for more power and to prevent a lean condition. Also once you have the flash tuner you can read any trouble codes the computer creates and also erase them. You can also flash the computer for when you change your rear end gear ratio...the old days it required a new speedo gear on the tranny. You can also eliminate your top speed limiter and change or eliminate your rev limiters. You can also change the temp that your radiator fans come on and also eliminate the traction control completely or some cases the swith will default to off when you start the engine. IF you have an auto tranny, it will also improve the shifts.
I went back and forth between the C&L CAI and the JLT before I settled on the C&L. C&L won a CAI shootout among 11 manufacturers in the January 06 edition of 5.0 magazine. The JLT came in second. IMO, the tuner is definitely worth the extra money, but a CAI without the tuner will give you some more horses, just not as much as if you use a tuner.
Good luck and have fun!

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06 GT, 5 spd
C&L Street CAI
MD Dyno Tune
American Racing Headers w/cats
Hurst Equipped/MAC Axle Backs
Stange Dev. Front & Rear Shock Tower Braces
CHE Adj. LCAs/K member/Torque Limiters/Steeda UDPs
DSS 3.5" Dia. Driveshaft/FRPP 4.10s

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/27/2006 8:28:39 PM

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Has anyone used the CAI from Ford Performance?

Wouldn't using that CAI maintain the waranty?

Thanks in advance!

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RE: Cold Air Induction Installations and Comments... - 10/27/2006 9:29:01 PM

06hoss

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Dorkmeat, none of these mods will legally void your warranty. It's just up to your dealer on whether he wants to be an ass or not to give you problems. The nice thing about these CAIs is that if you have a warranty issue and are worried about what the dealer will say about the mod, you just switch back to stock before you take it in for service if it makes you feel safer.
The only thing I personally don't like about the Ford Racing CAI is that they reuse the stock breather tube (elbow) which is more restrictive than an aftermarket one. Steeda started out with a CAI like that and guess what, now they offer a smooth breather tube (elbow). It you don't want to spend the money on a tuner then you may want to look at a K&N CAI or a Granitellli. The Granitelli has a polished version for a little more $$ that is beautiful. If you want more HP and more features, then you won't be sorry if you go with a C&L or a JLT with a tuner.
C&L rules baby!!!

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06 GT, 5 spd
C&L Street CAI
MD Dyno Tune
American Racing Headers w/cats
Hurst Equipped/MAC Axle Backs
Stange Dev. Front & Rear Shock Tower Braces
CHE Adj. LCAs/K member/Torque Limiters/Steeda UDPs
DSS 3.5" Dia. Driveshaft/FRPP 4.10s

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