I am torn between the Shaker CAI (by Classic Design Concepts) or the High Velocity CAI (by Western Motor Sports). Anyone have any thoughts or comments on either one?
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Will adding a CAI void the warrantey on your new 2007 GT?
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Blueshawk
i was told by the service manager at the dealership i got my stang at that anything not stock will void the warranty. i've since talked to several people in the know (i work for a comapny that sells extended warranties/insurance for vehicles) and they say that if you go to a recognized ford performance dealer, they won't say crap. however, the tuner downloads the stock tune from your ride so you can throw it back on if need to be to take it in.
i just purchased the TI CAI (demolet made) from brenspeed with the SCT XCALII. just sent off the email with my specs so they can do a custom tune.
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When a CAI says "flash required" does that mean I have to have a tuner or can I rely on the Mustang's computer to recal air and fuel? I know that a "retune" will maximize the performance of the CAI, but I don't have a tuner and am not interested in running a tune which requires higher octane fuel. I'm just looking for modest improvement. Thanks for the help.
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If it says flash required, you'll need a new tune. That's because some CIAs flow a lot more air and will cause the egine to run too lean with the stock tune. Best bet is to get a CAI/Tuner combo. I have the DeMolet and love it, but there are lots of combo deals out there.
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Ok, I just installed my WMS CAI on my 06 and it is amazing! With a minor hicup of about an hour to run to sear's to get some tools it only took me 4 hours to complete. I got it though brenspeed and I got the tuner package I cant believe the difference it feels and sounds! Ill be adding some pictures just as soon as my girl lets me use her camera! Wow!
I am guessing that there are tune's availble out there for lower octane, but I wonder if that would partially defeat the purpose of getting a CAI.
I would like to see if I could acheive 300hp roughly to the wheels, and at least that much in TQ as well with simple bolt-ons and dyno tuning...I know this has been asked out the wazoo on here, but is it possible?
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I am guessing that there are tune's availble out there for lower octane, but I wonder if that would partially defeat the purpose of getting a CAI.
I would like to see if I could acheive 300hp roughly to the wheels, and at least that much in TQ as well with simple bolt-ons and dyno tuning...I know this has been asked out the wazoo on here, but is it possible?
You're right in that the lower octane tune partially defeats the purpose, just like getting a CAI that doesn't come with tuner won't produce as much power. When I first installed my C&L CAI, I ran it on a low octane tune to make sure I had all of that 87 octane gas out of the system, then I flashed it with the high octane tune. I haven't dynoed the car, but what I felt by my seat of the pants, is that maybe about 20 of the 25 extra horses you get come with just putting that CAI on there and of course the tune. The car really took off and sounded better after the install. When I finally installed the higher octane tune, I didn't really notice that big of a power difference, but the throttle response was much quicker and the engine was quicker to rev. I would think it would be pretty easy to obtain 300RWHP. You could probably get there with a good CAI with a good tune, long tube headers and under drive pullies. An aluminum drive shaft will free up some horsepower too...that's my next mod, then the headers. I haven't decided on UDPs.
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So basiclly the best thing to do on an 07 Gt with a 5 speed is the put a C&L CAI on it with a tuner, 4.10 gears and shorty headers with a cat back exhaust x pipe with Borla stingers and I will roll!!!!! is this true???
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I wouldn't bother with the shorty headers since the gains will be minimal. Long tubes are the way to go...most of them come with an X pipe if you order them together. Every thing else sounds sweet.
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ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR ME PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
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If it says flash required, you'll need a new tune. That's because some CIAs flow a lot more air and will cause the egine to run too lean with the stock tune. Best bet is to get a CAI/Tuner combo. I have the DeMolet and love it, but there are lots of combo deals out there.
I'm kinda new to this, (don't spaz at me, I'm a converted bimmer guy...and I just bought an '07 GT/CS, WOW ...lot more fun than my bimmer!) anyways...I just priced out a CAI, roughly $400. Then of course I did the good ole searching of what else needs to be done...low and behold, running to lean, just as you said. what's this about ... flashing the computer. won't that void the warranty!? Does the Tuner come with every kit?! what brand is everyone buying into for CAI!? is there one that stands above the others?!
sorry if this seems simple to you...but some of this is all new to me...
I'm kinda new to this, (don't spaz at me, I'm a converted bimmer guy...and I just bought an '07 GT/CS, WOW ...lot more fun than my bimmer!) anyways...I just priced out a CAI, roughly $400. Then of course I did the good ole searching of what else needs to be done...low and behold, running to lean, just as you said. what's this about ... flashing the computer. won't that void the warranty!? Does the Tuner come with every kit?! what brand is everyone buying into for CAI!? is there one that stands above the others?!
sorry if this seems simple to you...but some of this is all new to me...
You can get a good CAI/tuner combination for a little less than $600. I think the C&L is one of the best CAI, and the SCT Xcal II tuner is also one of the best. I bought my C&L/Xcal II combo from Evolution Performance for $565 shipped. I always remove my CAI/tune before bringing the car into the dealership so the warrenty wont be voided. I can change out the intake in about 30 minutes.
So what are the best intakes on the market now...Ive been thinking about C & L's street intake, with the tune. I know their are like 4 good ones out there...steeda, bbk, etc. any input would be helpful.
I have a C & L True Flow because I preffered the aluminum tube. I like it but to really maximize the effectivness of the CAI, you need a custom tune versus a canned tuned that typically comes with the tuner and CAI. I bought the C & L as a package with a Diablo Predator tuner and a canned tune and have since switch to a SCT X-Cal tuner with a custom tune. There was a noticeable difference. I am sure the other manufacturers would have the same results. Just a a preference on what you like.
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...lot more fun than my bimmer!) anyways...I just priced out a CAI, roughly $400. Then of course I did the good ole searching of what else needs to be done...low and behold, running to lean, just as you said. what's this about ... flashing the computer. won't that void the warranty!? Does the Tuner come with every kit?! what brand is everyone buying into for CAI!? is there one that stands above the others?! 
