RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 3:24:06 PM
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Anyone who's raced knows that a bad driver can make a low 13 sec car a mid 14 second car or worse if they don't know what they are doing.
 Amen to that. I've seen guys with 03/04 Cobras run a full half a second slower than what I was running. I know that's not right.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 3:28:17 PM
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I seemingly hear all the time about GTO's/Camaro's/ or even Mach 1's running high 12's to about 13.1 or so with BONE STOCK down to the stock rubber. It's hard to believe. 13.3 or so, I can see that happening.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 3:31:30 PM
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I hate like hell to paper race LOL but it's all I can do in this situation because we don't have any GTOs in Canada so I have never actually seen one run. 
That being said, from what I have read and heard from people who onw them, stock VS. stock, the LS2 GTO should beat our GTs........but like I said, I have never even seen one run.
I do understand that they have a hard time hooking up though.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 3:41:32 PM
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I actually wasn't going to touch this thread with a 10 foot pole, but for the guy that said he went to a GTO board and they were all running 14's. www.ls1gto.com Here is the top times for the '05 - '06 BONE STOCK street tire. They also don't let you post your time without a timeslip and/or video.
LS2 ENGINE CLASS
Top NA LS2 ET's - Stock:
1) NYTIGER 12.920 @ 109.40 MPH
2) jumbojet 12.974 @ 108.08 MPH
3) Boilermaker GTO 12.9299 @ 106.89
4) BlackSheep 12.98 @ 108 MPH
5) KYGTO 13.035 @ 108.96 MPH
6) Judgethis05 13.036 @ 108.72
7) hookmechanic 13.074 @ 106.76 MPH
8) SloNlo 13.086 @ 108.75 MPH
9) TheCamel 13.112 @ 108.49 MPH
10) BadGTO 13.14 @ 104.99 MPH
11) Lord Vador 13.132 @ 108.85 MPH
12) Joey D 13.236 @ 104.79 MPH
13) steelerguy 13.378 @ 106.54 MPH
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 3:44:00 PM
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Just for giggles. Here is the top minor bolt on stuff. LS2's of course.
Top NA LS2 ET's - Modified - Bolt Ons / Tune Only: ("unopened motor", must retain unmodified factory designated cylinder heads (no porting) camshaft and short block)
1) 2005 goat 12.243 @ 110.76 MPH 3.91 gear, 3600stall, Nitto DR, LPE cai
2) Bad GTO 12.326 @ 108.75 MPH vig 3200 stall, kooks LT
3) Kruul 12.349 @ 111.69 MPH yank 3200, LPE cai, SW LT no cats, magnaflow cb
4) Lord Vador 12.52 @ 111.091 MPH removed MAF screen, no mufflers, air bags, DRs
4) MacDogg 12.575 @ 111.14 LPE cai, kooks, tune, A4
5) slowgoat 12.53 @ 107.3 LPE CAI, 3.91, fuddle 3200, MT DRs
6) ponyeatergto 12.593 @ 110.19 catless midpipes, flowmasters, tune, LPE cai
7) TM2FLI 12.60 @ 110.41 MPH
8) Hookmechanic 12.64 @ 111.41 MPH - retired, god bless.
9) steelerguy 12.685 @ 113.46 MPH
10) hellhammer 12.76 @ 108.5 MPH headlight removed and DRs
11) Orange GT 12.784 @ 108.93 MPH SLP LT, magnaflow cb, tune, MT DRs
12) Joe6pt0 12.807 @ 107.94 MPH borla cb, tune
13) 05GTOM6 12.838 @ 108.31 MPH - MTs, CAI
14) SloNlo_350 12.870 @ 109.51 MPH RWTD dyno tune
15) Housewolf 12.892 @ 108.49 mph LPE CAI, Nitto DRs, and Tune
16) TJT 12.916 @ 107.1 mph GMM ripshift, magnaflow cb, nittos, drag bags
17) fjpelkey2001 12.971 @ 112.451 MPH K&N drop in, catback, stock tires
18) Wipeout 12.956 @ 107.55 MPH- LPE CAI, ripshift, Nitto DRs
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 3:52:32 PM
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yeah,
thats the top ten. . . thats not the average, nor the average "spinning the tires is gonna get me a better time" Jim Bob off the street. . . those guys have made plenty of passes before posting their very best. . .
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:00:48 PM
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Thats not the point. I happen to have a 12.98 slip for the car myself. Did it take awhile? Of course. But you guys said they were 14 second cars. I realize not all of you said that. I was just giving you info. Someone questioned, if 12's can happen. The answer is yes.
And really, I've had so many arguments about this car, I don't care to do it again.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:01:57 PM
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GTO must be one of the ugliest things I have seen. I was wondering how we would run against them, but I never see one around to race. 
i take the 05/06 ones by 5-6 car lengths at the track in the several times i've run against them. they trap 2-5mph less than me depending on my mods at the time. im full bolt-on but stock exhaust btw.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:02:52 PM
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I have a C6 wth the LS2. Let me tell you , that car can scare the pi$$ out of me sometimes. But LS2 engines are very sensitve to heat soak, just tooling around town in the middle of summer and those things pull timing like crazy. They will dyno 345 to the wheels cool and about 315-320 hot. Now, take that and put it into the heavy GTO with one of the worst shifters around and its a drivers race. I have not experienced this heat soak to that degree on my GT. This mustang is also MUCH easier to launch than the GTO and my vette. So light to light is the mustangs field vs the GTO. I just wish the rev limiter was higher, I keep hitting it when I get excited.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:07:35 PM
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thats cool man, no arguing here. . .
im just saying that not many "experienced" drag racers drive those cars. . .
and when that happens. . . even when your car should be faster, better driver can take his few tenths slower car and beat them. . .
thats all im sayin, and im sure most everyone here is saying.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:13:02 PM
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thats cool man, no arguing here. . .
im just saying that not many "experienced" drag racers drive those cars. . .
and when that happens. . . even when your car should be faster, better driver can take his few tenths slower car and beat them. . .
thats all im sayin, and im sure most everyone here is saying.
When you go to a test and tune night...How many "experienced" drag racers do you see? It's mostly the average joe blow that just wants to see what his car runs and has fun with it. Thats perfectly fine, thats what those nights are for. I just find it funny that a lot of people on the forums see a time for a car, regardless of what it is and think thats what they all run. Then you get the "My Mustang will kill it." Of couse it will.
I'm not trying to be "that guy" as I do have a fox body, and had a couple of other stangs. But some of these guys need to learn how to give credit where credit is due...Don't ya think?
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:22:56 PM
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definately,
I know what a car is capable of just from power to weight ratio. . . i don't have to see someone drive'em. . . :-)
i know that the average for "decent drivers" in these cars at the track is prolly a 13.2 or 13.3, and im sure you ran a few of those . . .
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 4:28:27 PM
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I've actually got about 20 slips that range from 12.98 to I think 16.50. Most of the time, I can get it to hook off the line, then when it hits second it frys the tires. If I'm lucky enough to hook it back up in a reasonable amount of time, it just does it again into 3rd. It's pretty hopeless without drag radials.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 5:16:03 PM
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wow. . . sounds like a lot of power lost . . .
if i don't spin bad in first. . . i don't have to worry at all about traction . . . it just hooks. . .
i guess the weight shift, solid rear axel, and excellent suspension help out a bit. . . :-)
sounds like Pontiac is all about the power, just forgot about puttin' it to the ground . . . ;-)
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 5:21:41 PM
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sounds like Pontiac is all about the power, just forgot about puttin' it to the ground . . . ;-)
Na, they did a HELL of a job, my car pulls 1.6 short times on stock suspension...oh wait, you meant GTO's. Yea, much like the Cobra's, they got a ****ty IRS setup.
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RE: 06 Mustang GT vs GTO - 7/27/2006 5:28:04 PM
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sounds like Pontiac is all about the power, just forgot about puttin' it to the ground . . . ;-)
Na, they did a HELL of a job, my car pulls 1.6 short times on stock suspension...oh wait, you meant GTO's. Yea, much like the Cobra's, they got a ****ty IRS setup.
dude. . .
we're talking street tires here bub. . . not drag radials. . .
1.6's are def on drags. . .
and yeah, i wasn't sure if the GTO's had IRS, but it makes a lot of sense. . . ha ha
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