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Just went to the GTO forums and saw that the normal 1/4 mile times were 14.00. When they didn't have a good driver the 1/4 mile times were 14.9-15.3. Guys, thats strait from the GTO forums from the people who love em....... Now obviously there were some, just like here, who highly modified them and ran 11's to mid 10's, but stock to stock..... MUSTANG!!
there are new stangs ran high 14s which they are soppsed to run mid 13s.. l have seen GTO vids l believe on streetfire that they ran flat 13 very low 13s.
I was pretty surprised when I ate a 04' GTO with 470 miles on my GT. I was shocked when I pulled on an '05, and let me tell you both drivers were pissed. I agree that with a superb driver the 05 and later models definetly have the -potential- to take a Mustang out by at least a couple car lengths. The car definetly has power, but I just dont see performance that reflects 400bhp. This could definetly be the limits of my experience talking, as Ive only run into a handful on the street and twice at the track.
Just went to the GTO forums and saw that the normal 1/4 mile times were 14.00. When they didn't have a good driver the 1/4 mile times were 14.9-15.3. Guys, thats strait from the GTO forums from the people who love em....... Now obviously there were some, just like here, who highly modified them and ran 11's to mid 10's, but stock to stock..... MUSTANG!!
there are new stangs ran high 14s which they are soppsed to run mid 13s.. l have seen GTO vids l believe on streetfire that they ran flat 13 very low 13s.
I've seen vids of most everything, even Honda's running 9's, I've seen video of so many things (car related...) yet on the street and at the track, where it counts I have yet to see GTO LS1 stockers best a very high 13.... and the infamous 6.0 GTO was maybe a few tenths quicker... but since you saw vids of new Mustang's running high 14's, that must be the norm....
Do you dislike your car or something? Can't get it out of the 14's? Good grief, I've seen video of GTO's running 15's, does that make it the norm??
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Well I just raced one the other day, three times we went, his was stock and my 05 GT is too with the exception of my Corsa's. I'm pretty sure the HP gain if any would be negligible, but when we ran, it was an even race, both cars ran about equally. I got better launches tho because of the Auto tranny.
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Just went to the GTO forums and saw that the normal 1/4 mile times were 14.00. When they didn't have a good driver the 1/4 mile times were 14.9-15.3. Guys, thats strait from the GTO forums from the people who love em....... Now obviously there were some, just like here, who highly modified them and ran 11's to mid 10's, but stock to stock..... MUSTANG!!
there are new stangs ran high 14s which they are soppsed to run mid 13s.. l have seen GTO vids l believe on streetfire that they ran flat 13 very low 13s.
I've seen vids of most everything, even Honda's running 9's, I've seen video of so many things (car related...) yet on the street and at the track, where it counts I have yet to see GTO LS1 stockers best a very high 13.... and the infamous 6.0 GTO was maybe a few tenths quicker... but since you saw vids of new Mustang's running high 14's, that must be the norm....
Do you dislike your car or something? Can't get it out of the 14's? Good grief, I've seen video of GTO's running 15's, does that make it the norm??
dude l like my car but that doesnt mean that l have to make my car my god and defend it all the time.. truth is truth.. new GTOs are faster than us.
if you would have line a up a decent driver l would have seen what would happen to you! those things will kill us.
you are talking about freaking hondas, show me 9 sec. stock honda! l am talking about stock GTO ran 13 flat and very low 13s at the track. have you seen 13 flat bone stock stang GT?
it is not about loving my car or something, it is the truth.. l will bet EVERYONE on this web site.. STOCK for STOCK decent drivers.. hands down GTO!
here is a link about 0-60mph times and 1/4 mile times
I have raced both GTO's. We can give the 04's a run for their money, but the 05's will WALK ALL OVER YOU. It was heartbraking and embarassing. The easy way to tell is the exhaust. The 04's have one tailpipe on the left, whereas the 05's have dual pipes. Spare yourself the shame if you come up behind those dual pipes. Yes they are ugly. Yes they are overpriced. Yes they are FAST.
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I just saw a GTO commercial & it said they have 300HP, whats up?
you mush have heard wrong or something l believe.. 2005+ GTOs are 400hp. 400 torque. 204 GTOs are like 300ish horses like trans ams..
OK. So, I am rolling along in my 06 vert and this guy darts from behind me up to my driver's side. He gives me the look and nails it. He was in a GTO (not sure what year). I played with him a while and we came to a stoplight. He starts revving and I look over at him. He gives me a big smile and I know it's on! I looked at my wife and told her to hold on. There was no traffic in front of us so I nailed it when the light turned green. I hooked up immediately and took off! We were side by side and he was mashing gears. With my tune and the guys at SCT, my auto performed flawlessly! The guy looked shocked that we stayed side by side. I was also surprised. I don't know if he was a bad driver or what, but I was impressed that we were even up to around 80 which was when I backed down!
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I have raced both GTO's. We can give the 04's a run for their money, but the 05's will WALK ALL OVER YOU. It was heartbraking and embarassing. The easy way to tell is the exhaust. The 04's have one tailpipe on the left, whereas the 05's have dual pipes. Spare yourself the shame if you come up behind those dual pipes. Yes they are ugly. Yes they are overpriced. Yes they are FAST.
now thats what l am talking about! but people here do not wanna except the truth that new GTO will murder us and they think maybe l am mustang hater.. dude l own one too and l wish we would have faster but unfortunately they are faster.. 04 GTO vs new stang GT is drivers race in my opinion..
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GTO's have steeper rear axle ratios, and a steeper 1st gear ratio.
That makes a quick launch tougher.
Even getting a good launch it means the engine has to push longer to get into it's powerband.
Corvettes handily beat Mustang GT's, and GT500's. Because they have power, and are lighter.
F-Bodys, DO NOT beat Mustang GT's. They also have a steeper rear end ratio, and are about the same weight as the Mustang.
Oh, the 350 HP GTO's also don't beat Mustang GT's
400 HP GTO's only......................
have you ever ran with any LS1 f-bodies? dude l am serious those cars are no JOKE! with a good driver people have seen those cars ran 13 flat! general timeslip is 13.1- 13.2-13.3 but when you look at the new stang GT with a good driver we ran mid 13s but general timeslips are 13.8-13.9-14ish..
a 98-00 FBODY puts down 295-300RWHP. and 01-02 FBODY puts down 310-315RWHP!! weights even a little less than new stangs.. now tell me whatelese you want me to tell you? unless it is a ccrappy driver, f-bodies SADLY will be beat us! forget about their rear end ratio, even if you put 2-3 cars off the line, those cars will catch and pull hard! they are called highway monsters.. from a roll they are very good.. from a dig they are allright! most of them has 3.23- 3.73 gears.
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I just saw a GTO commercial & it said they have 300HP, whats up?
you mush have heard wrong or something l believe.. 2005+ GTOs are 400hp. 400 torque. 204 GTOs are like 300ish horses like trans ams..
OK. So, I am rolling along in my 06 vert and this guy darts from behind me up to my driver's side. He gives me the look and nails it. He was in a GTO (not sure what year). I played with him a while and we came to a stoplight. He starts revving and I look over at him. He gives me a big smile and I know it's on! I looked at my wife and told her to hold on. There was no traffic in front of us so I nailed it when the light turned green. I hooked up immediately and took off! We were side by side and he was mashing gears. With my tune and the guys at SCT, my auto performed flawlessly! The guy looked shocked that we stayed side by side. I was also surprised. I don't know if he was a bad driver or what, but I was impressed that we were even up to around 80 which was when I backed down!
that must have been 2004 GTO.. but you got your wife in it so your car was heavy too.. and alos he was stick, you were auto.. side by side.. very good..
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Now that's what im talking about,
the mustang owner in ya finally speaks. . . ha ha
l just wanted to mention that they were faster but l dont give a damn! l am slower but l am happier.. l wouldnt wanna drive thhat car even though, l have 400hp. l am happy with 300hp:)
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Just went to the GTO forums and saw that the normal 1/4 mile times were 14.00. When they didn't have a good driver the 1/4 mile times were 14.9-15.3. Guys, thats strait from the GTO forums from the people who love em....... Now obviously there were some, just like here, who highly modified them and ran 11's to mid 10's, but stock to stock..... MUSTANG!!
there are new stangs ran high 14s which they are soppsed to run mid 13s.. l have seen GTO vids l believe on streetfire that they ran flat 13 very low 13s.
I've seen vids of most everything, even Honda's running 9's, I've seen video of so many things (car related...) yet on the street and at the track, where it counts I have yet to see GTO LS1 stockers best a very high 13.... and the infamous 6.0 GTO was maybe a few tenths quicker... but since you saw vids of new Mustang's running high 14's, that must be the norm....
Do you dislike your car or something? Can't get it out of the 14's? Good grief, I've seen video of GTO's running 15's, does that make it the norm??
dude l like my car but that doesnt mean that l have to make my car my god and defend it all the time.. truth is truth.. new GTOs are faster than us.
if you would have line a up a decent driver l would have seen what would happen to you! those things will kill us.
you are talking about freaking hondas, show me 9 sec. stock honda! l am talking about stock GTO ran 13 flat and very low 13s at the track. have you seen 13 flat bone stock stang GT?
it is not about loving my car or something, it is the truth.. l will bet EVERYONE on this web site.. STOCK for STOCK decent drivers.. hands down GTO!
here is a link about 0-60mph times and 1/4 mile times
P.S. l am not trying to be jerk or something.. l love my mustang and other mustangs as much as you guys do.
First off,,if you seen a new gto that was STOCK run a 13.0 flat then that person is a better driver than the Pro who drove the car & told GM it was a 13.30s car!(for which the general public is having a hard time reproducing!)Secondly,,if this was a 13.0 run it WAS done with an exceptional driver AND drag radials!No way that car can run 13.0 on street radials...Most of us here(IMO) are street racers.That's where the whole story unfolds because you get into more races on the streets(if your a race fiend!) then you do at the track with D/Rs....If you believe that the GTO is quicker then thats your oppinion.But you will have a hard time feeding that dish to the ones here who are beating 04-06 GTOs on the street!Again,,it's just my Oppinion.
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There is a 2006 GTO that runs at my track and he consitantly pull better times than S197s. He does have exhaust work and an intake....though honestly I don't know well the GTOs respond to mods. Anyway his times are anywhere from .2-.3 seconds faster than the S197s, and I don't know a single bone stock S197 at my track. I myself haven't ran him yet, but his ETs are better than mine. So it is really hard to say since none of us are stock. Oh yeah that GTO runs on his street tires too.
I agree that a 13.3 1/4mile with the 05-06 GTO might be hard for the general public to reproduce, but I would say the same about STOCK S197s running 13.5s. Most S197s running 13.5s or better have a tune at least.
However, there is a 03 Mach1 at our track that can beat him by about a tenth or so. He has 4.10s, polished intake manifold, a higher stall torque converter (I don't know the stall though), tune, on street tires too. When he runs DRs he would destroy the GTO. So a S197 with similar mods ought to do as well.
Either way I think LS2 GTOs are still plenty fast, and would probably take us stock for stock with the same driver. Never ran one on the street though.
But I would say it is close enough to be a drivers race IMO. Anyone who's raced knows that a bad driver can make a low 13 sec car a mid 14 second car or worse if they don't know what they are doing.
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I have raced both GTO's. We can give the 04's a run for their money, but the 05's will WALK ALL OVER YOU. It was heartbraking and embarassing. The easy way to tell is the exhaust. The 04's have one tailpipe on the left, whereas the 05's have dual pipes. Spare yourself the shame if you come up behind those dual pipes. Yes they are ugly. Yes they are overpriced. Yes they are FAST.
Actually they both have dual pipes stock.
The '04 has them both on the left, the '05+ has one on the left and one on the right.
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) then you do at the track with D/Rs....If you believe that the GTO is quicker then thats your oppinion.But you will have a hard time feeding that dish to the ones here who are beating 04-06 GTOs on the street!Again,,it's just my Oppinion. 
