GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/24/2006 4:40:30 PM
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chrisc
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also, how are they installed?
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/24/2006 5:18:29 PM
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BlueStang6
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What will the GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar really do for the 6??
I am very interested! Wondering what exactly will it do and it looks very easy to put on is that true?? On saleen.com its selling for $29.99 is that pretty decent price??
Thanks guys
A couple of things you need to keep in mind before you consider a GT front sway bar without also installing a rear sway bar. Because of its rear-wheel drive and front-end weight bias, the cars naturally understeers. It tends to "plow" in turns and resist steering inputs. Installation of a rear sway bar is an easy way to add some stiffness to the rear suspension and reduce this understeer. It gives a more "precise" feel to the steering. It makes the car turn easier and feel more stable. It makes the front tires wear longer.
Ford has put rear sway bars on Mustang's since at least 1979. Why did Ford leave the rear sway bar off the '98-'07 V6 Mustang (except Pony Package equipped)?
An obvious reason is to save money. But it is generally accepted that Ford's decision was also based on assumptions about the driving skills of the typical V6 Mustang owner. Understeer is the accepted norm in the U.S. When the car doesn't seem to be going where the driver wants it to go, he just brakes and turns the steering wheel farther -- an intuitive design considered defensible in court.
Adding a rear sway bar not only reduces understeer, it also makes the car more likely to oversteer. -- for the rear end to lose adhesion and swing out when cornering. That makes the car more fun to drive (it turns quicker), but also more dangerous because it could lead to a spin-out. To correct for oversteer, the driver must stay off the brakes, add power, and turn the steering wheel in the direction of the slide -- a design considered indefensible in court, and one that could expose Ford to liability.
So bottom line is that if you install the stiffer GT front sway bar without adding a rear sway bar you would only be adding to the built in understeer, which I don't believe is your goal.
And by the way, installation is only a matter of unbolting the old sway bar and installing the new one (the GT sway bar has its own brackets but you re-use the V6 mounting bolts).
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/24/2006 5:20:50 PM
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chrisc
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thanks for the write up. i actually do have the rear sawy bar, but it was factory installed. what does the install look like for the front one though? will it require me to do a lot of stuff? i mean, is it worth it to take it to a shop for a few hundred bucks?
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/24/2006 10:36:14 PM
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thanks for the write up. i actually do have the rear sawy bar, but it was factory installed. what does the install look like for the front one though? will it require me to do a lot of stuff? i mean, is it worth it to take it to a shop for a few hundred bucks?
..Here ya go!
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1670743/tm.htm
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/24/2006 10:53:24 PM
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its twice as easy, if your front end is unloaded ;) (tires off the ground)
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/24/2006 11:07:37 PM
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orion6g
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Would the sway bars not be advisable for bumpy roads (as I know first hand that the back end can skip)? I'm also guessing that this would make the car want to slide more in the rain?
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 12:09:47 AM
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DRWS10
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WOW!!!! Thanks a ton!!!! Well I will have to check out how much the rear is also. Would you suggest to get both or just the back??? I am really just looking for things to make my car better and keep it cheap!
Do you know where i can get a rear?? saleen doesnt have the rear only the front
Thanks a ton!!!
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 1:00:33 AM
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05BlackPony
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WOW!!!! Thanks a ton!!!! Well I will have to check out how much the rear is also. Would you suggest to get both or just the back??? I am really just looking for things to make my car better and keep it cheap!
Do you know where i can get a rear?? saleen doesnt have the rear only the front
Thanks a ton!!!
I would have to recommend the rear before the front actually lol
http://www.newtakeoff.com is actually Diversified's website if you don't want to use the e-bay route. (Great people to work with!)
Just remember that if you order from them, you don't receive the bolts.
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 1:10:32 AM
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Hellwig makes a much better rear (and front) bar but it will cost you about 150 bucks.
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ORIGINAL: DRWS10
WOW!!!! Thanks a ton!!!! Well I will have to check out how much the rear is also. Would you suggest to get both or just the back??? I am really just looking for things to make my car better and keep it cheap!
Do you know where i can get a rear?? saleen doesnt have the rear only the front
Thanks a ton!!!
I would have to recommend the rear before the front actually lol
http://www.newtakeoff.com is actually Diversified's website if you don't want to use the e-bay route. (Great people to work with!)
Just remember that if you order from them, you don't receive the bolts.
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 12:25:31 PM
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thanks for the write up. i actually do have the rear sawy bar, but it was factory installed. what does the install look like for the front one though? will it require me to do a lot of stuff? i mean, is it worth it to take it to a shop for a few hundred bucks?
..Here ya go!
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1670743/tm.htm
thanks! exactly what i was looking for
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 2:46:52 PM
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ORIGINAL: chrisc
thanks for the write up. i actually do have the rear sawy bar, but it was factory installed. what does the install look like for the front one though? will it require me to do a lot of stuff? i mean, is it worth it to take it to a shop for a few hundred bucks?
..Here ya go!
http://www.mustangforums.com/m_1670743/tm.htm
thanks! exactly what i was looking for
No prob 
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 2:56:08 PM
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05BlackPony
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its twice as easy, if your front end is unloaded ;) (tires off the ground)
I suppose it would be easier for more room to work around with..
I just like to follow directions that are given to me...
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 5:42:47 PM
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blackfoot
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when the vehicle is on its suspension..the sway bar is underload.. i cant see it being an easy process to remove and install
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RE: GT Take-Off Front Sway Bar - 7/25/2006 5:43:48 PM
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blackfoot
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i dont think anyone here has teh eibach anti-roll kit??
i want to go that route in the future
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