talk about needing to knock on wood there. That sux 4 the guy with the dear. But as for the car I am a 17 year old and see alot of those ricers around school. What i really dont get is why they take a 2000 dollar or less car and prob put over 4000 dollars of parts in it. It just doesnt make sense at all. Especially since you know if you sell those cars they would maybe pull 3000 dollars. So my definition of a riser is as follows. The car started cheap and non agressive. The person put more than the car is worth into body modification and stereo systems. and last the car is still not worth alot. The thing i find with older cars is making a shelby kit actually raises the value of the car. So i do not consider that to be a ricer
And as for street racing or raceing at all. Driving your car shouldnt be about who is the fastest and strongest. What it really should be about is turning heads. It doesnt matter what horsepower someone jacks a civic up to. It would never turn my head. But there isnt a classic mustang out there that i try to stop and look at.
First off as was said before...NO STREET Racing!!!! Most drag strips have a grudge night or Highschool challenge night. You want to race your friends take it to the track don't put me and my family and friends at rick because of your stupidity.
Now to the subject of RICERs. Each generation has seen an evolution in the definition of hot rodding and the car enthusiast. Whether it is the classic guys with the restored model Ts or 30 and 40 cars, or the restored european cars or the guys with the concourse mustangs or the restomods or the younger guys with their "Riced" compact sports cars (import or domestic) it all comes down to the fact that the auto hobby is evolving. Everyone has their own taste and that's what is great about this hobby, I don't have to make my car exactly like yours to have it be a nice car or fast or whatever. I mean how boring would it be if everyone was driving around 67 fastback eleanor clones?
The imports for the most part are cheaper for a kid to buy used, they are cheaper on gas on a kids limited income (most don't have full-time jobs or trust funds). parts are cheap and readily available. So they choose show over go because a lot of them don't have the know how to tear into an engine, not many schools offer autoshop anymore.
My biggest pet peeve is the attitude and it is my experience (and this thread in a way is reinforcing it) that you don't have to be a ricer to have the "young, dumb and full of cum" attitude that your the $hit and the laws of the road don't apply to you. I see this from "riced" out cars and and POS beaters alike. I think it is a reflection on our society as a whole; We want it Bigger, Better and faster and everyone feels that their issues are the most important and don't care about the guy next to you.
If you do in fact have a car with a 400 hp 302( you said it was stroked so probably better than 302) then you should not feel that you have anything to prove to your ricer buddies. If they have issues with your ride, tell them to put up or shut up and take it to a track your 400 hp vp shouldn't have anything to worry about with the 2.2l fartcan-mobile. If it's just about braqggin, talk is cheap and doesn't hurt anyone, take their word for what it's worth, and go on with your day.
just my 2 cents. The cars are ok it's the bad attitude of the driver that I hate and it doesn't just apply to Ricers. It could be the soccer mom in the ford excursion talking on the cell phone or the constrution worker beating the $hit out of the company truck while riding my bumper on the turnpike because they don't think doing 75 MPH in a 65MPH zone is fast enough for them.
I'm stilll waiting to hear how a 16 year-old built (and keeps from wrecking) a 400 hp small block...
Me too.
Lets call Riply's Believe it or Not
I'm 20, and I'd be surprised if I didnt wreck that car by now. All young people think they know everything and are the badest on the planet, me included, but I realize this so I think it gives me an upper hand. I am just waiting for life to smack my young a$$ into reality
80mph + deer + dead GT = reality smack
Yea thats what scares me haha. That happened to a friend of mine in his Grand Marquis, but a horse instead of a deer. I always try to be careful and watch myself so it scares me to think about what kind of crazy stuff will have to happen. Everyone always gets some weird car experiences
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its not really the ricer cars that piss me off but the guys who think they can beat anybody in a 120 hp car. they think they are th sh!T. i just like 2 put them in there place every once and a while. if they cant appreciate a real car then f%$# them!!! we will take it to the track from now on. but when u drive a cool car even if im just going to a friends house, people want to race me. ricers, old guys in vettes, muscle cars i cant go anywhere w\o people trying to race me. ive probally should stop pushing my luck b\c i dont want to get arrested or worse LOSE MY CAR
its not really the ricer cars that piss me off but the guys who think they can beat anybody in a 120 hp car. they think they are th sh!T. i just like 2 put them in there place every once and a while. if they cant appreciate a real car then f%$# them!!! we will take it to the track from now on. but when u drive a cool car even if im just going to a friends house, people want to race me. ricers, old guys in vettes, muscle cars i cant go anywhere w\o people trying to race me. ive probally should stop pushing my luck b\c i dont want to get arrested or worse LOSE MY CAR
dead would be bad. My cousins boyfriend died racing(i think his car was in the oncoming lane) so i dont do anything stupid we race at night on a 5 mile flat, straight road w\ no traffic but like i said i wont do it anymore
also if u can put 300+ hp down in a ricer they have my respect, but still cant beat me
I really wish you lived in Houston bro.
It sounds like you have a really big head on your shoulders because of your muscle car and I would love to see you put in your place.
Just remember...there is always someone faster then you. Some can even do it in a "ricer."
I think you should just grow up and learn the entire hobby instead of just one aspect. Get to know some new people without shooting your mouth off and go for a ride in a few different cars...muscle, import, euro, etc.
Mustang = not the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Jes had a couple good points.. one of them is attitude. Being considerate of other drivers seems to be fading, everything from tailgating and cutting people off so they cant merge in a construction zone to leaving your brights on while behind someone. Add stupidity to an attitude that drivers who do those sorts of things to it and often you have a kid with moms Honda, or his brothers used up Iroc. I try to be considerate of others, its a pitty that so many people are thinking about "ME ME ME ME ME"
Attitude about cars is another one. I dont mind someone putting stuff all over thier car, its thier car. I think its stupid and a waste, but its what they wanna do. What irritates me is when someone, kid or not, goes on and on about how fast his car is. How he beats modded LS1s, Vettes and Vipers with his baddazz ride. I find the Neon guys are guilty of this more than Honda kids are. All attitude because they just know what they have is faster than ANYTHING. Then at the track, they stroll up and ask what we ran, and its a full second faster than what thier modded car ran and mine is stock. Yeah the daily driver is faster than thier hotrod, and they got all mad when I mentioned that in a conversation with people we both know. I mentioned it before I proved it to him, but still.. Nevermind that my daily driver is a full 3 seconds slower than the toy, so his little Neon needed some help.
Keep throwin money at it, it might go someday.
Then they proceed to drive like a moron weaving around cars and cutting people off, because they have a "race car" and they have the same driving skillz as Jeff Gordon or Junior. They think Mark Martin should be callin them to ask for driving tips and speed secrets...
also if u can put 300+ hp down in a ricer they have my respect, but still cant beat me
I really wish you lived in Houston bro.
It sounds like you have a really big head on your shoulders because of your muscle car and I would love to see you put in your place.
Just remember...there is always someone faster then you. Some can even do it in a "ricer."
I think you should just grow up and learn the entire hobby instead of just one aspect. Get to know some new people without shooting your mouth off and go for a ride in a few different cars...muscle, import, euro, etc.
Mustang = not the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I have driven in different cars including my freinds wrx sti, ill admit its quick but in my mind i love nothing more rhan the rumble and feel of a homegrown v8 (the i6 can be a good engine too)
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this topic has been getting alot of attention and i think its safe 2 say that ricers and muscle car guys and girls will never really agree on anything
DUH!
RICED OUT CAR:
MUSCLE CAR
not even close. i'm in the age range of the "ricers" and cannot figure out for the life of me, what on earth posesses them to do these things to their cars. my GF said it was cause girls like it (yet she doesn't) and when i smoked one civic with my 89 4 banger, she was flirting with me at the next light. they're cool till they get smoked and than the chick realizes, this dude has a real car, what the hell am i doing. thank god i don't need a car to get a chick tho.
the only thing i agree with them on is this: it's your car, do as you wish. i have seen some "ricers" who chill at classic car shows, with NO attitude, and drool over the classics and muscle cars.
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im not trying 2 argue w\ anybody about "ricers" its the people that piss me off not the CARS. i could build a 500 horse integra if a had $$$$$$$. I work for my dad at a bodyshop and ill be the first one 2 say that the euro cars are the best built most reliable cars out there. good for the owner of one. a pain in the ass 2 work on!!! I drove an audi tt and it was nice but give me my mustang.
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Just to poke some fun at myself regarding badging:
My 67 coupe was originally a 6 cylinder (which can be identified by my 4 bolt patterned wheels), has a 289 badge (obviously not original, but the previous owner stuck it on), and a 302 under the hood (which I wasn't even available in 67). Go figure!
The best part? From what I've researched, the bone stock 302 only produces about 200hp at the engine and no guess as to rear wheel hp.
All of this has had zero impact on my enjoyment of cruising around town as a semi-daily driver. In fact, I'll wave to just about anybody smiling at me...
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he's prolly another dyno racer.
actually, i take that back i haven't seen a dyno sheet, time slip, nothing more than someone saying that even a 300hp import won't beat them. tell ya what bro, i know 2 civics that aren't riced out that would probably take a nice sized dump on your "400"hp car.
countless times i have driven the backroads home have i encountered people coming at me in the other lane with their brights on, thats what upsets me the most, i am considerate enough to turn off my brights when i see their headlights, they should be the same. same with the swerving and talkin Sh*t. its all attitude i hate.
actually, i take that back i haven't seen a dyno sheet, time slip, nothing more than someone saying that even a 300hp import won't beat them. tell ya what bro, i know 2 civics that aren't riced out that would probably take a nice sized dump on your "400"hp car.
This is what I was thinking.
There is a new 1/4 mile being built 10 minutes from my house...THANK GOD. My friends CRX cut a 11.9 last month and we are bringing the integra to the track within the next 2 weeks hopefully. I am expecting a 12.8ish run. Still not "fast" by any means but we are getting there with them. heh
actually, i take that back i haven't seen a dyno sheet, time slip, nothing more than someone saying that even a 300hp import won't beat them. tell ya what bro, i know 2 civics that aren't riced out that would probably take a nice sized dump on your "400"hp car
the dyno sheets are at my dads bodyshop and if i ever see those 2 civics ill give them a good beatdown. they can try to spray their way past me but when they run out of nitrous and their turbos break their nothing more than grociere getters!
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