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Newbie Questions - 8/3/2003 6:12:33 PM   
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Howdy, well I'm new here and have some questions I would really like some help with as I'm currently shoping for a pony. It seems like around here I keep finding automatic tranmissions, not that I have any problem with them I'd just prefer a stick. One of the things I'm wondering is how good(ie. fun, reliable, able to handle more power)the auto's in the 4.6's are. Also I was wondering if it's worth the money to get a 99+, or are the 96-98's good enough. Well, I'd be forever greatfull for any help you all might have, and I'm eagerly anticipating getting my first pony.

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Newbie Questions - 8/3/2003 7:43:36 PM   
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to quote other users, the 94-98 are dogs.  i believe there are different heads on the 99+ which produce more power.  but anyway, going by hp ratings, 99+ is MUCHO better, 260 compared to i think 220

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Newbie Questions - 8/3/2003 8:04:05 PM   
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94 & 95 ARE STILL THE 5.0 CARS AND THE 96-98 CARS ARE OK SOME 96'S HAD OVER HEATING PROBLEMS AND THOSE FIRST YEARS OF THE 4.6 LACKED ON POWER.  IF I WERE YOU I WOULD GET A 94 OR 95 BECAUSE YOU STILL GET A NEW BODY STYLE BUT HAVE THAT PROVEN PUSHROD POWER!

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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 6:55:08 AM   
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Pushrods SUCK!!!!....more parts = more parts that break. 


More parts = more heat. 


If you can, go 99+ with a stick.  Because in autos you have to add a shift kit, tranny kewler if yer wanting to add bigger gears.  Not to mention driving an auto isnt really driving.  Its guiding a car.


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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 7:25:49 PM   
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Well if push rods suck then tell that to billy glidden the reigning pro 5.0 champ!  6.7sec at over 200mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the fastest 4.6 is still in the 7's and not to many others are even close! look at all the pro 5.0 drivers! Have you even took a part a 4.6? you will find that there is more parts that a 5.0.  If you buy a good quality part then you dont have to worry about that.  A 4.6 can break just as easy1


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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 7:58:56 PM   
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I also agree that pushrods do not suck, way to set the record straight Buzzstang.

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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 8:34:10 PM   
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Buzz didnt set s**t straight.  4.6s only been out for 7 years.  Lack of after market parts is the reason theyre still laggin.  Now that theyre coming out with replacement cams and intakes, the times should start going up and 5.0s are gonna look gay.  There are limitless amounts of parts for a 5.0.  There are very few select parts for the 4.6.  And as for the 5.0 having few parts.....Count them.  Youll be suprised. 

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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 8:35:10 PM   
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thanks sean!

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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 8:40:59 PM   
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brockleew...5.0 is just plain more displacement...simple as that.  put the same thing on both engines and i imagine the 5.0 to be the better.  could be wrong, perhaps because of a difference in structure...(like pushrods...what the hell is that...)

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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 8:48:31 PM   
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My point was that they do not suck!  i Did not say that the 4.6's suck or anything like that.  but you just contridictied yourself.  you said that pushrods have been around for years.  but you also said they sucked.  well if they have been around for years then they must have been doing something right.  how about this the faster you go the more stuff you break. 


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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 8:52:01 PM   
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Saying that pushrod engines suck is just ignorant, the Viper, LS1, LS6, are you saying those engines suck?Get a grip and grow up, just because your car does not have a pushrod engine that does not mean that they suck!

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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 9:45:40 PM   
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i still lack the knowlegde of what a pushrod engine is...might i find that out from you fellers?


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Newbie Questions - 8/4/2003 10:20:57 PM   
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A pushrod goes from the lifter to the rocker arm, which opens the valves.Overhead cammers eliminate pushrods, hope it helps.

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 5:22:16 AM   
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i don't mean to interupt ur boys fun but i have a bit of a problem...i need to know what size throttle body i have on my 88 gt 5.0 and if it is a 65 mm can i replace it with a 70 or 75 mm?...thanx ya'll r great

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 5:32:06 AM   
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Yeah, you can

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 5:34:18 AM   
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And yer right Sean.  Its not really ignorant, its just childish to say that pushrods suck.  My bad.  I just like modulars alot.  Thats all.  I still think 5.0s suck though   

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 5:36:54 AM   
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i don't really like the new mustangs...i guess we all just have different opinions about our stangs...

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 8:05:50 AM   
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[QUOTE=brockleew]

Pushrods SUCK!!!!....more parts = more parts that break. 


More parts = more heat. 

[/QUOTE]

Crackhead.

It's got less PARTS than an OHC set up, but more mass.

The reason OHC's tend to make more power than pushrods is there is less mass to turn, and in DOHC's, the head flows a LOT more air in and out.

I'd love to see you continue to say pushrods suck after seeing one make over 6000 horsepower.

Actually, it's a weekly event known as Top Fuel (NASCAR is pushrod, and a LOT of weekend warriors have pushrods.....as to the LT1, LS1, LS6.........)

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 8:07:32 AM   
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[QUOTE=Jugador]

i still lack the knowlegde of what a pushrod engine is...might i find that out from you fellers?

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A pushrod motor has a cam central inside the block, inbetween the V. There are sticks (pushrod) that go up parallel to the head and connect to little seesaws with the valve on the other end.

When the cam's lobe pushes the pushrod up, the see saw pushes the valve down.

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Newbie Questions - 8/5/2003 8:31:19 AM   
Jugador1

 

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so instead of being up top it has the cam in the engine?

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