RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so what was the result
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/10/2006 11:41:48 PM
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fatman
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This week i am going to have my neighbor post my video runs and i am going to scan my time slips.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 12:27:01 AM
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Sleeper o5: I never mentioned antthing about a terminator or Vette. If that is the case, i could tell you my Grandnational will beat a GT, the question was if an 05 -06 Gt could win against a GTO. I have nothing to do with you demolishing a bolt on GTO. Obviously, the GTO guy could not drive, or has a tuning problem. I have video and time slips to prove. in fact I don't know what part of town you are in, but i will be at Atco next thursday and Atco is known for a fast track. I would love for your stock Gt to demolish my GTO. I would bet what ever you would like, just to prove drivers are the true mod. Dude i have street raced for over 15 years and there is know way in hell, a GT with a comparable driver is going to beat the GTO. The numbers just won't match. I have yet to see a GT run 13.0-13.2 stock, not saying it never happens, but I never saw one. Now if the GTO is an 04, then there is know arguement. As stated before, I don't internet race, i do this and for Money. As for the 03-04 Cobra as mentioned, that car is a different animal. The Cobra is the modern day Grandnational. it can be hard to figure out what type of work has been done and is a hard car to bet on. And for Blazer 4.3. The camaro with bolt ons is a beast, with a good driver. I have driven my friend's SS 11.7 at 119 , his car dynos 440 to the rears. There is no doubt they can be fast, but if you are running 104 as your sig says, from a roll you will lose to a good driver. Go to LS2GTO and see what stock 05-06 GTOs are running. And with the same mods you have, they are running mid to low twelves. i stated before that there are not many GTOs on the street, so therefore, if there are bad drivers, then everyone will say the car is slow. I could make a living off of racing the guys without the knowlegde on these cars. Please, keep posting how slow these cars are so i could continue to take money from these mis-informed individuals, who internet race. Sorry guys, but i am in the field racing and watching, not watching videos of guys with bad times. i am willing to bet if someone else were to drive the GTO on the Film, the outcome would be different. I am not bashing the GT, but stop saying a car with a true 400 HP is slow. The trail blazer SS is runing low 14s to high thirteens stock and low thirteens with a converter, tune and CAI, with the LS2, so use common sense here people, the GTO is a low 13 second car from the factory period. Put tires on and slip the cluch and 12s are there. and yes, they are trapping 107-109 as bad as it sounds. Oh. i know they aren't the best looking cars, but with staggered 18 inch AZA Z-1s I get constant attention.
a)i did, as stock terminators and stock c5 vettes often have trouble getting very far into the 12s. your supposed times AND traps would easily keep up with a stock of either
b) im in sacramento, and have no idea where atco is. plus, i had my fill of tracking last week. if atco is a fast track, i would love to run on it though.
c)just cuz my sig says im stock doesnt mean that there isnt hardly a stock part on my car 
d)they dont, thats why
e)if your gto is TRULY stock (other than tires), i would be obliged to take your money from you  , but remember, im NOT
f) mid-low 13s stock, i agree. tires alone (and i know this multiple times firsthand) will not drop you from mid-low 13s to 12s unless they are et streets, wrinkle-walls, etc. i have 555r nittos...they made a diff, but not anywhere near half a second, not even close. also, 107 trap in stock form MAYBE believable. 109 i do not believe at all. ive seen 4 ls2 gto's at the track so far, and even the bolt-on ones (intake/exhaust primarily) were never trapping more than 106. the guy i raced twice last week was trappin 104s IIRC, though it was hot and i never trapped more than 107.3 on the night. 400hp is beastly, but the car does not live up to its name or its power
g)i totally agree with you on that one
in summary, im not saying you are wrong or that any of what you say is impossible, just that i havent seen it, nor have i seen conclusive evidence that it even is possible. post some vids for all of us to enjoy tho! and welcome to the forum
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 12:29:18 AM
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hey fatman, i like ur attitude. but wasnt there 6 passes on that vid? all in the 14.0-14.5@98-100? he made over 10 passes that day, never cracked a 13.
i think i posted a kill story i had a few days ago with a 06 gto 6 spd. i was having throttle cable issues and the car was not downshifting. we did a 20 roll with me starting in 2nd and i am going to assume he started in 1st.
well from 20-50ish he barely had a car on me. he was pulling the entire time. if i was to have started in 1st i think it wouldve been a dead even race. if anything, he is not going to pull me till after 80. and after 100 i will stop his pull. that is honestly how i think the race will go down.
anyway i posted the same thing that i am about to say now on a differnet forum. fatman, if you know of any NEAR STOCK or stock GTO's that are near fargo, or after 2 weeks i will be living in daytona. set up the race. i am all for it.
i now my car is modded, but i am only putting 267 at the tires whereas the GTO is puting 350.
I have never owned a GTO so I am going by numbers. But I do have an LS2 and my car will run mid 12's with an decent driver . Now a GTO weighs 600 lbs more than my Vette but that extra 600 lbs is not going to drag him 1.5 seconds slower. That guy in that Video could not drive. Now I'm not saying that anybody with a GTO is going to run 12.9-13.0 . But an average driver should do 13.3. There have been ppl that have done 12.2 in a stock C6, does that mean I will , probably not. This LS2 GTO is every bit as quick as an F-body (if not quicker).
Like I said, I dont own a GTO BUT I do own an LS2 and I know very well what this engine is capable of. You cant judge a car by one or two drivers. The unfortunate thing is there are'nt that many so the chances of running into a capable driver in a Goat is greatly diminished.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 12:43:06 AM
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MrRogers
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hey fatman, i like ur attitude. but wasnt there 6 passes on that vid? all in the 14.0-14.5@98-100? he made over 10 passes that day, never cracked a 13.
i think i posted a kill story i had a few days ago with a 06 gto 6 spd. i was having throttle cable issues and the car was not downshifting. we did a 20 roll with me starting in 2nd and i am going to assume he started in 1st.
well from 20-50ish he barely had a car on me. he was pulling the entire time. if i was to have started in 1st i think it wouldve been a dead even race. if anything, he is not going to pull me till after 80. and after 100 i will stop his pull. that is honestly how i think the race will go down.
anyway i posted the same thing that i am about to say now on a differnet forum. fatman, if you know of any NEAR STOCK or stock GTO's that are near fargo, or after 2 weeks i will be living in daytona. set up the race. i am all for it.
i now my car is modded, but i am only putting 267 at the tires whereas the GTO is puting 350.
I have never owned a GTO so I am going by numbers. But I do have an LS2 and my car will run mid 12's with an decent driver . Now a GTO weighs 600 lbs more than my Vette but that extra 600 lbs is not going to drag him 1.5 seconds slower. That guy in that Video could not drive. Now I'm not saying that anybody with a GTO is going to run 12.9-13.0 . But an average driver should do 13.3. There have been ppl that have done 12.2 in a stock C6, does that mean I will , probably not. This LS2 GTO is every bit as quick as an F-body (if not quicker).
Like I said, I dont own a GTO BUT I do own an LS2 and I know very well what this engine is capable of. You cant judge a car by one or two drivers. The unfortunate thing is there are'nt that many so the chances of running into a capable driver in a Goat is greatly diminished.
+1 Some people go out and buy these powerful cars and don't know how to drive them. The LS2 GTO has potetial. I saw one two days ago and the damn thing looked nice.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 6:38:36 AM
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Wow, I want to race the LS2 GTO now. With my current mods, it ought to be nice.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 1:14:35 PM
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CobraSnake
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i dont have an 05 or 06 GT. But, i did race a 05 GTO at the track the other day and i ran a 12.9 and he ran a 14.0
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 1:20:52 PM
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GMhipo
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I'm just like that guy in the video I have an 05 GTO 6sp and I can't break into the 13's either. My best is like 14.2 @ 101 mph. However, I've seen a guy with the same exact car as mine at the same track do 13.1 stock or very close to it. So what are we to believe about the car?Likewise I see high 14 second 05/06 GT all the time, should I believe that that's all the GT is capable of? Even with my horrible driving ability I've still managed to beat an STI, 05 Mustang, Charger R/T, and a turbo charged 350Z.
IMO stock for stock with the same skill drivers the GTO will beat an 05/06 GT hands down and it'll take more the a CAI and a tune to compete.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 2:11:15 PM
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C6 VETTE
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I'm just like that guy in the video I have an 05 GTO 6sp and I can't break into the 13's either. My best is like 14.2 @ 101 mph. However, I've seen a guy with the same exact car as mine at the same track do 13.1 stock or very close to it. So what are we to believe about the car?Likewise I see high 14 second 05/06 GT all the time, should I believe that that's all the GT is capable of? Even with my horrible driving ability I've still managed to beat an STI, 05 Mustang, Charger R/T, and a turbo charged 350Z.
IMO stock for stock with the same skill drivers the GTO will beat an 05/06 GT hands down and it'll take more the a CAI and a tune to compete.
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I hear the same thing on the Vette forums. I've seen threads posted of ppl managing high 13's in a C6. Everything is crucial in QM times. I mean when you think about it a bad launch can put seconds on drag times not counting the temp,track prep, elevation. Stereotyping cars is like a car enthusiast with a closed mind!!!! As for me I'll street race every once in a while, but I have only raced at a track once (ten years ago in my 95 Z28). I will freely admit that if I went to a track tommarrow after a ten year absence I doubt right off the bat I would make mid 12's. I would have to have quite a few passes to get into the 12.3-12.5 range. So if someone seen me managing 13.0 after a few passes does that mean all C6's run low 13's? No.
The GTO has the specs to back it up. a 400hp /400 ft. lbs. of TQ coupled to a 3800 lbs. car = low 13's
The s197 GT 300hp / I'm guessing 290 ft. lbs. of TQ coupled to a 3500lbs = high 13's
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 2:51:28 PM
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40thgtfl
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drivers make the race. ive beat a bunch of cars that i know are faster than me.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 2:55:14 PM
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drivers make the race. ive beat a bunch of cars that i know are faster than me.
I agree, I'm just saying the GTO is a faster machine with equally talented drivers.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 3:13:50 PM
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40thgtfl
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6.0l...... yeah no doubt. harder to drive though.
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RE: Have anyone with a 06 GT raced a 05/06 GTO? If so w... - 7/11/2006 3:14:47 PM
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40thgtfl
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hey fatman, i like ur attitude. but wasnt there 6 passes on that vid? all in the 14.0-14.5@98-100? he made over 10 passes that day, never cracked a 13.
In my g/f's first outing with her '01 Z28, she didn't make it into the 13's. 14's all night. Does that mean that LS1 Camaros are 14 second cars? Uhhhh no.
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new gto is a mid to high 14 seccar
You are forever banished from Street/Strip. I run mid 13's (best is 13.34) and a new GTO would manhandle me.
I just never had any trouble whatsoever against ANY GTO. I ran a new 06 and easily out ran him from the roll. He wouldn't run me off the line.
Janine
i would hope look at that mod list. ive ran them with minor bolt ons and it was preaty damn close.
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