RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/23/2004 9:45:25 PM
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RollinThunder
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To all you mustang owners out there, the SRT will definatly beat your ass in a race. Stock they come with 230 hp and 250 tq, How does that make you feel? I raced my cousin who has a 99 GT with flowmasters and a cobra chip, and yes i pulled on him. It was close but I still won. And to that guy who says the GT is nicer, what are you thinking? There is nothing inside of your GT. There are 3 knobs that control air and thats the nicest feature. Atleast my car has viper seats and a boost gauge. Hows that make you feel? In summary I am dissapointed by your V8's.
I'll race u from a stop ...and if I beat u I want u 2 kiss my cars ass for a video that I'll post on here hahahaha
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/23/2004 11:00:01 PM
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SRT4driver
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Hey rolling thunder, you genius, we are talking about stock for stock and the SRT will win. But im not going to say I could beat your car as i can see you have many mods. Im here to debate the fact that the SRT is a very fast 4 cylinder that gives stock v8's a run for their money.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/23/2004 11:35:03 PM
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DUB 6
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Hey rolling thunder, you genius, we are talking about stock for stock and the SRT will win. But im not going to say I could beat your car as i can see you have many mods. Im here to debate the fact that the SRT is a very fast 4 cylinder that gives stock v8's a run for their money.
You didn't say it gives a mustang a run for it's money....You said that a mustang couldn't beat one.....Go over to the SRT-4 site and you will see the video of some kid getting his ass kicked by a 99+ GT over there...Every single time one of you fellas loose...You start talking about the GT must have been modded....Well all SRT-4's are modded....Hell your boosting what....16-17 PSI....Mustangs have no power adders.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 12:33:21 AM
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AirForce2004
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I found this information by searching through alot of stuff. Not much of a difference. Cept the weight factor and the turbo and lack thereof. Load up another 500 lbs on an SRT4 and then race. If the specs are this close then the turbo'd car may be even or just left behind.
The SRT4 weights 2900 lbs... Mustang GT 3347 lbs.
SRT4 0-60 5.3 1/4M 13.9...... Mustang GT 0-60 5.5 14.1
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 12:40:39 AM
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ORIGINAL: SRT4driver
To all you mustang owners out there, the SRT will definatly beat your ass in a race. Stock they come with 230 hp and 250 tq, How does that make you feel? I raced my cousin who has a 99 GT with flowmasters and a cobra chip, and yes i pulled on him. It was close but I still won. And to that guy who says the GT is nicer, what are you thinking? There is nothing inside of your GT. There are 3 knobs that control air and thats the nicest feature. Atleast my car has viper seats and a boost gauge. Hows that make you feel? In summary I am dissapointed by your V8's.
Have you sat inside of a GT with leather??? I am stunned as a supposed owner of a SRT-4 you would argue this point.
Its a rental car with a turbocharger. No matter what it is still a cheaply made car. Drive it about 40K and tell me the entire car isnt filled with squeaks and rattles. There is no comparasion on which car is made better/nicer.
I have alot of respect for SRT-4s. However you are wrong saying that a GT wont beat one stock. It is completly a drivers race, and most people cannot get a SRT-4 to run a 13.8 stock. I have seen a boatload of SRT-4 clips turning in low 14 times.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 12:48:21 AM
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AirForce2004
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I agree with 2000GT. SRT4 is fast for a 4 cylinder. But seriousely. To agressively say "srt4 will beat your GT'S ass..." Is a bit much. They are like a 10th apart in both 1/4mile and 0-60.
The v-8 is a higher quality engine with higher limitations. SRT4 is pushing all it probably can without some serious mods to the engine i.e CAMS, valves. Its a neon...a top of the line neon.
Stick a turbo with an equivelant power ratio as the turbo on the SRT4 onto a GT... Im pretty sure it wont be a difference of 1/10ths.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 12:49:22 AM
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nomocobra
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SRT-4 produces 215 horsepower at the fly wheel and it's not underrated.
so im assuming that youve seen a stock srt4 on the dyno?? i have, but what do i know
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ORIGINAL: SRT4driver
To all you mustang owners out there, the SRT will definatly beat your ass in a race. Stock they come with 230 hp and 250 tq, How does that make you feel? I raced my cousin who has a 99 GT with flowmasters and a cobra chip, and yes i pulled on him. It was close but I still won. And to that guy who says the GT is nicer, what are you thinking? There is nothing inside of your GT. There are 3 knobs that control air and thats the nicest feature. Atleast my car has viper seats and a boost gauge. Hows that make you feel? In summary I am dissapointed by your V8's.
dude your a ****ing homo. nobody cares about your car and how fast it is. if your going to come to a mustang site, come friendly, or dont come at all.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 12:51:37 AM
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nomocobra
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Torque my friend is what wins the quarter and the GT has about 70lbs/ft more. Torque is what puts you in the seat and horsepower keeps you there. Hell you owned a cobra and you don't know this already
yeah, i owned a cobra with no torque at all...it pathetically dynoed 100ft lbs less than it did hp
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 9:28:28 AM
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RollinThunder
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ORIGINAL: SRT4driver
Hey rolling thunder, you genius, we are talking about stock for stock and the SRT will win. But im not going to say I could beat your car as i can see you have many mods. Im here to debate the fact that the SRT is a very fast 4 cylinder that gives stock v8's a run for their money.
hey dumbass I guess u forgot that u wrote this....
< Message edited by RollinThunder -- 6/24/2004 9:30:45 AM >
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 9:31:48 AM
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RollinThunder
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Okay, your beating SRT4s when they are stock? Im guessing you are modified cause there is no way stock you will beat one. And if you want to meet me you'll just embarass yourself cause I am not stock. You also have it confused, SRT's can run 13.8 stock, Id like to see a stock GT run that.
here u r sayin that u modified ur SRT4 ...and so is mine so y not race
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 10:13:44 AM
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mdvaldosta
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Hey lemme jump in
For starters, Everywhere I look I see the SRT-4 listed as a 14.2 car 5.8 0-60, and a Mustang GT listed as a 14.1 car 5.5 0-60. FOr 2004 their seems to be alot of people claiming 13.9 runs with 5.3 0-60 in an SRT-4, but you know their are just as many people claiming the very same times in a Mustang.
Second, a freaken Neon is fwd, how the hell do you expect to beat a Mustang 0-60? Answer: The neon comes with tires that are damn near borderline drag radials.
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http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html (99+ Mustang 14.1 / 5.5)
http://www.fast-autos.net/dodge/dodgesrt4.html (2003 SRT-4 14.2 / 5.9)
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0302scc_neon/ (2003 SRT-4 14.2 / 5.8)
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=10940&trimid=98024&src=VIP (2004 SRT-4 14.5 / 5.9)
Car & Driver (2004 SRT-4 13.9 / 5.3)
Let me say that while I know a 99+ GT will walk the dog on an '03 SRT-4, I do know that an '04 is something to be concerned about. Its safe to say that the majority of '04 SRT-4 owners will beat the majority of GT owners stock for stock. Its also cheap and easy to modify a Neon, at least at first. After you get by with the simple mods (that work quite well since all you have to do is regulate the boost), its pretty much over with. A Mustang has a LOT of potential, the Neon is pretty much maxed out.
I give '04 SRT's respect, they are quick cars. Stock for stock Im confident I could stomp one though - since the average '04 SRT drive will only ever see low 14's - same as a 99+ GT.
All in all when it all comes down, the SRT-4 will still be a cheap throw together rental car with a Turbo. In the end a Neon will still be a Neon, and a Neon will still be a piece of sh*t. Its just a piece of sh*t with a Turbo. I do applaud Dodge for making a fast piece of sh*t though.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 10:57:09 AM
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nomocobra
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Second, a freaken Neon is fwd, how the hell do you expect to beat a Mustang 0-60? Answer: The neon comes with tires that are damn near borderline drag radials.
have you ever seen an srt4 at the track? the tires they come with are horrible....and **** man, it doenst even have lsd. it comes with an open differential
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 11:13:59 AM
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I think most of us would agree that mopar made a quick little car with the SRT-4. That's great for you and anyone else who would actually be proud to be seen in a Neon. Most people just think of them as a bargain basement partsbin ****box (neon with a PT cruiser engine)...Turbo can make anything fast but IT'S STILL A NEON!!!!!!
That's probably why you feel like you need to come to a MUSTANG FORUM and talk all kinds of trash....You realize that your car gets no respect BECAUSE IT'S A NEON and you look like a homo driving it. We don't have to tell everyone how fast or cool Mustangs are. It's obvious by the heads we turn.
By the way. Try to stick to one arguement. In your first post you are throwing attutude all over the place, then you are bragging about "not being stock", then you are claiming that you just want to debate whether a stock SRT-4 can beat a stock Mustang. I feel sorry for you. You are obviously feeling the pain of driving around in a gay car but it's not our fault that we knew what to buy when we went car shopping. That's probably why everyone in a Mustang laughs at you.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 11:17:13 AM
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mdvaldosta
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Second, a freaken Neon is fwd, how the hell do you expect to beat a Mustang 0-60? Answer: The neon comes with tires that are damn near borderline drag radials.
have you ever seen an srt4 at the track? the tires they come with are horrible....and **** man, it doenst even have lsd. it comes with an open differential
I got that info while looking for specs on the SRT-4 from here
They also had an article to see which could lay down the longest stripe. The '03 SRT-4 didn't fair too well due to a combination of factors. First off is the cars rake, low in the front and high in the rear. Next is the fact that the PCM only allows 8 psi boost, out of 14-15 psi, in 1st gear. Lastly was the super sticky tires that come on it. They were even "bummed" about the results figuring it to win it, but 83 ft. didn't get the job done. The winner was the Mini Cooper Works of all things with 129 ft., go figure. Then again you want to grab and go, not sit and spin.
And I suppose your gonna tell me how a fwd car with NO limited slip can outrun a GT Mustang from 0-60 without better tires? Have you ever seen an srt4 at the track, obviously not because I have. They lay down considerably better 60' times than you would think, and it isn't because of their weight. So uhh.. yea **** man.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 11:25:16 AM
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MikeHawke
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have you ever seen an srt4 at the track? the tires they come with are horrible....and **** man, it doenst even have lsd. it comes with an open differential
FWD doesn't even have a differential silly  it's a transaxle.
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RE: 04 GT vs 04 SRT-4 - 6/24/2004 11:26:19 AM
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nomocobra
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And I suppose your gonna tell me how a fwd car with NO limited slip can outrun a GT Mustang from 0-60 without better tires? Have you ever seen an srt4 at the track, obviously not because I have. They lay down considerably better 60' times than you would think, and it isn't because of their weight. So uhh.. yea **** man.
let me tell yah man, gotta love those open differentials edit* transaxle
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