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1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/3/2006 4:39:00 PM

Viper/Saleen1

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Well, it has lived up to all of my expectations. Aggressive styling, beautiful color (VistaBlue), tremendous exhaust note, wonderful power, etc.,etc.,etc. I haven't dropped the hammer yet but did change the oil to synthetic Mobil 1 yesterday. Planning on hitting the pedal hard soon......as for the 4:10 gears, I didn't really like it at first. Seemed too short between shifts, but as I've allowed the tach to creep just past 4K, I'm seeing the beast come to life. My verdict so far is the 4:10's were the right choice. This beast runs cool (temp hasn't even gone past the halfway mark) even when driving in 95 degree heat with the A/C blowing. Intake air temps remain below 160 degrees. That takes some good engineering to keep 550hp cool in that weather. And, this is city driving; not highway.

As for problems, just two. Battery issues (no keeping charged) and today I found a mashed battery wire at the alternator that had burnt through the insulating cover and was shorting out. Car would not run again today so alittle investigating found the problem. Put electric tape on it to keep going but will shrink-wrap it tomorrow. This will probably solve both issues. On this note, I did call my local dealership for assistance, and was told to bring it right down. When I got there, first thing asked was "where'd you buy it from?". Out of state. "Who going to service it?" Well, you guys, of course. "We can't look at that problem because its a Saleen issue." Uh, it's just a burnt wire from the battery to the alternator; can't you check to see if the circuit is OK with an ohm meter? "Uh, we're busy today can you wait til Wednesday?". You guys did tell me to come right over to make sure it won't catch fire, right? I will get my brother to look at it tonight...see ya.

Typical dealership service.....if we didn't sell you the vehicle, take a number! Bill Talley Ford in Richmond, VA; you're not giving me good vibes. Just let the vehicle go down the road and burn a $70K car up over one wire....makes sense to me.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/3/2006 9:56:32 PM

05HOTROD

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in your opinion does it feel like 550rwhp? I heard saleen under rates the hp on these things.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 1:01:50 AM

SaleenBuyer

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The dealer punting to Saleen after finding you didn't buy it from them really sucks. I'd hope that Saleen could incent dealers to service their cars promptly and properly. It shouldn't matter where you bought it.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 3:25:53 AM

05SDI

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Not nearly in your league but:
I found out with talking directly with the local Saleen authorized dealer that not only will they NOT install my Saleen S/C, they will offer NO assistance or help before , during, or after the install of said S/C. As soon as I bolt it on to consider the engine and drive train part of my warrenty void. I was told that it would be very hard for me to prove that the additional 180hp DIDN'T cause any warrentiable damage. I guess one of my biggest problems it the next closest Saleen dealer is like 2500 miles away! Nice! 05SDI

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 9:38:09 AM

cableguymicah

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Thats not totally unheard of. Unless the dealer has a dyno I would let a Good shop with a dyno install your s/c

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 10:50:29 AM

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So viper time to put that pedal to the floor!!!! So you can tell us if its really 550 horses. I am going to put a few mods on mine to try too get close to yours hehehe!!! I have a Cia picked out and programmer and 39 lb injectors. The CIA is a 95mm . dont know if I want to mess with the
Pulleys yet. Hope its all you wish of . Oh Cableguy is that 1/4 mile time you posted with 4:10 gears? talk to you soon.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 10:52:35 AM

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 11:35:37 AM

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Good to hear viper. How many miles does Saleen recommend putting on the car before you actually open her up? That stinks about the service. I have a feeling I'm going to have the same problem.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/4/2006 12:05:49 PM

Viper/Saleen1

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I don't really know how to tell if it rwhp or not? I cannot dyno my 4wd Jeep GC but estimate it was pushing 500hp and ran 13.0 in the 1/4 with a terrible 2.1 60-ft time. With the stroker going in this week and lower compression, it should be at least 550-600hp and looking for 12.5's. That's a 4400lb 4x4 Jeep, mind you. The 281E feels much more aggressive than my Jeep. It also feels more aggressive than my Viper. Will it beat my Viper??....maybe. The gearing is sooo much different. I can hit 60mph in 1st gear in the Viper; I'm sure I'll need 2nd gear to get that in the EXTREME; but the PULLING power of the Saleen is much stronger, so it should be neck-in-neck.

I guess only way to know rwhp is to dyno it. Saleen dyno's the engines but I would assume(?) it done before the engine is installed? If not, let Saleen tell us what is has.

I'm at 1000 miles so if the engine was put together right, hard pedaling shouldn't be a problem. Really, if its put together correctly, you can hit it right out of the box, but I like to seat the rings in well first. Saleen's instructions state to run the as-delivered oil in for 500 miles; then drop in a high-grade synthetic 5w-30w oil. Reading that, I would take that as an "OK" to hit it.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 8:54:34 AM

S281 E

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Interesting...

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 10:16:26 AM

4Stangs

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I feel your pain...Bill Talley is a little ummmmmm...slow sometimes. Saleen needs to whip 'em back in line. Let me know if you need some help. I have gotten to know who can get things done with my experience at this dealership and Saleen. Maybe I can help you out...maybe not, but I'm willing to try.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 10:21:21 AM

4Stangs

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There was a Lizstick red Extreme at Fun Ford Weekend. That makes 3 in the Richmond area! This guy claims he dynoed his Extreme and got 625 at the tires. That's 2 E owners claiming the same figures now. One in CT and this one in VA. I think I'll dyno mine to see if they are confused or not. Maybe they are talking a flywheel figure, not RWHP...either way that's alot more than Saleen claims.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 1:42:16 PM

cableguymicah

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Excalbur7

So viper time to put that pedal to the floor!!!! So you can tell us if its really 550 horses. I am going to put a few mods on mine to try too get close to yours hehehe!!! I have a Cia picked out and programmer and 39 lb injectors. The CIA is a 95mm . dont know if I want to mess with the
Pulleys yet. Hope its all you wish of . Oh Cableguy is that 1/4 mile time you posted with 4:10 gears? talk to you soon.

I have yet to post a time with m y 4.10's , my best time was with my 3.73 which comes stock in the saleen n/a 06's

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 2:06:37 PM

S281 E

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Its gotta be 550 crank. Anything Saleen would have advertised. I hope I'm wrong though.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 3:43:27 PM

4Stangs

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I wouldn't doubt they may have understated the HP figures a little, but 625 RWHP would be sick. That would be 730+ at the flywheel. I doubt it, but I think my wife and I are sceduled to dyno this weekend with the club. I'll keep you posted. I'll piss my pants if it makes 600+ to the tires.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 4:59:44 PM

S281 E

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I'll piss my pants if it makes 550 to the tires. There are a lot of factors when dynoing a car, but how much do you think the figures might vary from car to car? Knowing my luck I'm the one guy the car comes in at 550 flywheel.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/5/2006 6:03:25 PM

SAR

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I will let you know now, they dont make 550 to the wheels, so dont be disappointed when it doesnt

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/6/2006 10:04:59 AM

S281 E

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I don't know. I remember on the 04 extreme they said 445 and I remember people saying there's was doing closer to 445 at the wheels. We'll know by this weekend right 4stangs.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/6/2006 10:10:55 AM

4Stangs

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I'll let you guys know. The only way I'll be dissapointed is if the car fails to make the equivalent of 550 at the flywheel. The car is awesome and I'm pleased with it. In my opinion Saleen did an awesome job of creating the ulimate package with HP, handling, ride quality and comfort.

We'll see about the HP. I may dyno the car on the dyno jet this weekend and then a Mustang dyno later. The Mustang dyno is the most accurate.

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RE: 1000 Mile update on new EXTREME... - 7/6/2006 12:47:50 PM

S281 E

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You have a pretty good collection of modded vehicles. What would be your educated guess on the hp figures? I say we start taking a pool.....

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